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Young Aussie genius whipping NASA in Moon Hoax Debate!

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posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 01:13 PM
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This thread is a testament to the number of unanswered anomalies in the Apollo record.


I thought this thread was a testiment to that young Aussie genius, Jarrah "Never Forget A Slight" White who:

Lied about Kovalev's radiation data.
Boasted about lying to cover up his earlier lie.
Lied about his "expert."
Changes his story when he's caught in a lie.

All of his propaganda techniques have been exposed here... and now he mocks you with his latest video.




posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 02:45 PM
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Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by FoosM
 



This thread is a testament to the number of unanswered anomalies in the Apollo record.


I thought this thread was a testiment to that young Aussie genius, Jarrah "Never Forget A Slight" White who:

Lied about Kovalev's radiation data.
Boasted about lying to cover up his earlier lie.
Lied about his "expert."
Changes his story when he's caught in a lie.

All of his propaganda techniques have been exposed here... and now he mocks you with his latest video.


Sorry DJ, but repetition does=/=fact.
You keep saying that JW has lied about x,y,z, but in fact it is you who is spreading falsehoods.
What is your agenda? Why do you do it?

Nobody here denies that JW has made mistakes, or presented weak cases.
But outright lying? No, no evidence of it.



posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 03:18 PM
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Sorry DJ, but repetition does=/=fact.


So you did read my post, No matter how many times Jarrah repeats things like "deadly Van Allen Belt radiation" it doesn't make them true.


You keep saying that JW has lied about x,y,z, but in fact it is you who is spreading falsehoods.


You do realize that anyone who clicks on those links will realize that's a lie.


What is your agenda? Why do you do it?


I can't help it; I expose fraud whenever I see it.


Nobody here denies that JW has made mistakes, or presented weak cases.
But outright lying? No, no evidence of it.


Really? Would you mind providing an example of Jarrah ever admitting an error? I issued that challenge fifty pages ago, and no one has yet to do so.



posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 03:27 PM
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Really? Would you mind providing an example of Jarrah ever admitting an error? I issued that challenge fifty pages ago, and no one has yet to do so.


JW has a LOT of videos and I've only watched a few but I can honestly say I've seen him admit to mistakes..
Obviously you haven't seen all his videos..

Simply because you haven't seen it does not make it true...



posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 03:40 PM
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JW has a LOT of videos and I've only watched a few but I can honestly say I've seen him admit to mistakes..
Obviously you haven't seen all his videos..

Simply because you haven't seen it does not make it true...


Then direct me to one where he does. Just one example.



posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 03:45 PM
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Then direct me to one where he does. Just one example.


If I could I would but there's so many and I was just browsing..

But If you think I need to lie about something so trivial and something that you could easily check yourself, then that's kinda sad..



posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 04:09 PM
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If I could I would but there's so many and I was just browsing..

But If you think I need to lie about something so trivial and something that you could easily check yourself, then that's kinda sad.


I'm not saying you're lying. You yourself said there are so many, and I'm not going to waste my time looking for something I don't think exists. It's Jarrah's supporters not being able to find any evidence to defend him that's sad.



posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 04:13 PM
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I'm not saying you're lying. You yourself said there are so many, and I'm not going to waste my time looking for something I don't think exists. It's Jarrah's supporters not being able to find any evidence to defend him that's sad.


You're not saying I'm lying then follow up with,

I'm not going to waste my time looking for something I don't think exists.

Mate that is so sad..You ARE calling me a LIAR..
Seems to be the norm in this thread though..

Funny thing is most of your argument is based on believing everything NASA tells you..
Of course they never lie but you think I do....



posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 04:20 PM
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Mate that is so sad..You ARE calling me a LIAR..
Seems to be the norm in this thread though..


Not at all. It's altogether possible that you are under the mistaken impression that Jarrah has admitted to making mistakes. He is very good ar twisting things to convey impressions. I have seen many examples of his justifying his mistakes, but I have never seen him admit to being wrong about anything.

edit on 26-3-2011 by DJW001 because: Edit to correct typo.



posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 04:45 PM
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Not at all. It's altogether possible that you are under the mistaken impression that Jarrah has admitted to making mistakes. He is very good ar twisting things to convey impressions. I have seen many examples of his justifying his mistakes, but I have never seen him admit to being wrong about anything.


You think I suffer ADD or something ??
Pathetic attempt and it seems YOU are the one twisting words...
You ARE calling me a LIAR and I would like an apology...

BTW, you forced me to do YOUR research for you to prove my HONESTY...
Here's one video where he admits to a mistake though it's not any of the ones I remember..


It's pretty much at the start so you wont have to waste your precious time like I did..



posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 05:48 PM
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Pathetic attempt and it seems YOU are the one twisting words...
You ARE calling me a LIAR and I would like an apology...


I most emphatically did not call you a liar, but I apologize if you got that impression. Thank you for finding that video, I retract my statement and stand corrected. Jarrah actually dedicated an entire video to correct a mistake that had resulted in web-wide ridicule. He tried to make it sound as though it were the editing software's fault, but he eventually admitted it was a mistake. Of course, he did it will ill grace, and actually slapped the offending computer at one point:



He also apologized to his viewers but not his critics. Jarrah "Never Forgive A Slight" White stayed true to form even when sheer ridicule forces him to contrition.



posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 05:59 PM
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Of course, he did it will ill grace, and actually slapped the offending computer at one point:


I don't think either side like admitting they were wrong and like JW, they usually only do it when called out by the other side..
BTW, that was a pretty lame example..
Others are better..But I've looked enough..



posted on Mar, 27 2011 @ 02:18 AM
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Originally posted by DJW001 Jarrah "Never Forgive A Slight" White stayed true to form even when sheer ridicule forces him to contrition.


Information about Apollo. I think we have allready been subjected enough to know your personal opinions about Mr. Jarrah White because you DJW001. You repeat yourself. Keep repeating it. When in fact you should really keep all that spite and hatred inside yourself.

I'd like to know if you have ever personally met or spoken to over the phone or had email with Mr. Jarrah White? Well DJ? Have you ever discussed Mr. Jarrah White's information on any other forums DJ? You DJW001 do not have monopoly on the only version of reality.

I don't even read half your posts and when I am unlucky enough to catch myself doing so it is always the same... repeat.... hate .... copy paste .... hate hate

FoosM thanks for the vids... watching them NOW. This thread is a testament to the number of unanswered anomalies in the Apollo record.



posted on Mar, 27 2011 @ 02:25 AM
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I'd like to know if you have ever personally met or spoken to over the phone or had email with Mr. Jarrah White? Well DJ? Have you ever discussed Mr. Jarrah White's information on any other forums DJ? You DJW001 do not have monopoly on the only version of reality.


I wonder how many videos some have watched...



posted on Mar, 27 2011 @ 05:58 AM
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Originally posted by backinblack
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I'd like to know if you have ever personally met or spoken to over the phone or had email with Mr. Jarrah White? Well DJ? Have you ever discussed Mr. Jarrah White's information on any other forums DJ? You DJW001 do not have monopoly on the only version of reality.


I wonder how many videos some have watched...


When JW comes out with his 8 hours worth of video on the moon rocks, Im curious to see how many people will ridicule him prior to actually watching the whole series.

Im also wondering if JW will update his radiation series. There has been a lot of discussion about radiation since Fukushima. Im sure people are wondering, what about NASA, dont they have space suits that can protect workers?



posted on Mar, 27 2011 @ 06:47 AM
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Originally posted by FoosM
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exponent has still not answered all my questions.
And he has not clarified those he thought he answered.
Instead we get:

So far I have only answered 8 of your questions, you have substantively answered none of mine. Given that participation in this thread by me was contingent upon you answering questions, you've done a bad job so far.


Originally posted by FoosMI fail to see how all that was relevant to Apollo, JW videos, or the many discrepancies/anomalies/lies/inconsistencies/theories brought up by myself and others.

I'm pointing out your hypocritical behaviour, that your speculation is unassailable but the speculation of others is considered incredibly unlikely almost impossible, and as it is just speculation you feel you can dismiss it. When someone else dismisses your arguments, you react angrily. This is hypocrisy, applying double standards.


exponent, how do you know what I do for a living?
why do you sit there and make assumptions?
To bait me into telling you what I do for a living?
Well Im sorry but Im not going to tell you


All you have done is focus on what you think I dont do for a living, and not
look into if what I said is possible.
So we cant even go into a deeper discussion about it.
You killed it.
Too bad.

I know what you have said is not possible because I have many years as an amateur photographer and have performed an awful lot of image processing in my time. I know what your job is not because if you do hold a job where these skills are required, then you are performing it or your posting incompetently.

I guess that I can believe you might be a graphics editor, given that simple 2d editing does not require a strong understanding of pincushion/barrel distortion, exposure, depth of field, shadow direction etc etc. Still, it seems pretty unlikely to me. If anything I would pin you down as a student. I don't think speculation of this kind violates the rules, but if the moderators disagree I will happily take it down.


Originally posted by FoosM
Are you telling me that photo compositing wasn't possible back in the 1960's?

No, I am telling you that it would be expensive, time consuming and tedious, all for photos nobody has ever noticed anomalies in before you. At least, I have never seen anyone highlight these 3 photos as remotely suspicious before.


Originally posted by FoosM
Match photos to what exactly?

The other photos, as you pointed out.


Originally posted by FoosM
What negative?
And who has access to them?

I don't even get the point of these questions, are you just trying to avoid answering a simple question?


Originally posted by FoosM
Why would you need a vacuum chamber for a landing from orbit?

We just discussed this like 1 post ago. Have you forgotten already? There are effects visible on the landing videos which are not possible in an atmosphere. Given that even a vacuum chamber can't reduce earth's gravity, it's a pretty tough one to fake. Instead of giving evidence they did fake it, you seem to be just asking any question you can think of, instead of finding answers.


Originally posted by FoosM
Your still up at bat, are you going to take a swing at a debate or what?

Did you not read what you are quoting? I lamented your posts being long strings of irrelevant questions with no actual information in them. This hasn't changed, you haven't provided any useful evidence or information, just more speculation and wishing.

Are you incapable of reading your own posts?



posted on Mar, 27 2011 @ 06:52 AM
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Originally posted by FoosM
Im also wondering if JW will update his radiation series. There has been a lot of discussion about radiation since Fukushima. Im sure people are wondering, what about NASA, dont they have space suits that can protect workers?

If you understand radiation enough to make critical arguments. You also should understand radiation enough to answer this question.

Please do, as an example of how you clearly are educated enough to make predictions. It would convince us all somewhat that you are not just parroting what you hear with no critical thought



posted on Mar, 27 2011 @ 07:22 AM
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Information about Apollo. I think we have allready been subjected enough to know your personal opinions about Mr. Jarrah White because you DJW001. You repeat yourself. Keep repeating it. When in fact you should really keep all that spite and hatred inside yourself.


Perhaps you need to heed your own advice:


2. CIA involvement means we need to look at every pixel of detail of Apollo knowing that the CIA are the world's queerest bastards.


The title of this thread is "Young Aussie genius..." not "What's wrong with this Apollo picture?" FoosM keeps trying to steer it away from the topic. It has been suggested many times that he start a new thread that leaves Jarrah out of it. You must understand, I have no animus towards Jarrah personally, but every time I view one of his videos, I feel insulted. His contempt for humanity affects me profoundly. It must either be exposed and rejected, or it will seep into one's psyche. Note how his drinking of Jarrah's Kool-Ade has brought FoosM to this new low:


There has been a lot of discussion about radiation since Fukushima. Im sure people are wondering, what about NASA, dont they have space suits that can protect workers?


Really, FoosM? NASA is responsible for thousands dying in Japan? Can you resist any temptation to tar NASA or the United States? Personally, I think Jarrah is delighted that the earthquake and tsunami hit Japan because it has reduced the chance of the copyright holders stopping his pornographic RanMa project.



I don't even read half your posts and when I am unlucky enough to catch myself doing so it is always the same... repeat.... hate .... copy paste .... hate hate


You should try reading all of my posts. You might learn something about physics, astronomy, photography... all the subjects that Jarrah exploits. I'm sorry if I need to repeat myself so often, but it's the Moon Hoax propagandists who keep bringing up the same tired issues. Think about it: how is it possible that I can answer so many "new" questions simply by re-posting something I posted 200 pages ago? Am I the one repeating myself? As for the "hating:"


And what does the word speculate mean? spec·u·late/ˈspekyəˌlāt/Verb 1. Form a theory or conjecture about a subject without firm evidence.

NASA. National Aeronautics Speculation Agency.


That was mature.


Because you are a NASA defender and you will make up any fact "500,000" or ANY FIGURE out of THIN AIR!


There is a word which describes exactly what you are doing. It's called P.R.opaganda.



Enough DJ. Admittedly I have only skimmed pages 1-101 and reading almost every day pages 250-364 but you have GOT to take a break... sincerely dude I mean this in the nicest way... TAKE A F####NG BREAK :
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We know this is the greatest troll thread of all-time ALL TIME but you should seriously check out these legs and that smile...



Here are those sunglasses you were looking for






Courage of convictions?
... Inserting the word "individual", dude, it's called a strawman! Yes, you really need new glasses, CHRLZ! :
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OH, I GET IT NOW:
: According to DJW001, the pixel resolution of a space-based spy camera is directly proportional to the weight of the spacecraft
Did you get a citation from NASA on that???


Sorry if I seem unable to meet your high standards of decorum.
edit on 27-3-2011 by DJW001 because: Edit to correct formatting.

edit on 27-3-2011 by DJW001 because: Edit to correct formatting.



posted on Mar, 27 2011 @ 07:26 AM
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Ooh, I want to butt in here and point out that this quote:

According to DJW001, the pixel resolution of a space-based spy camera is directly proportional to the weight of the spacecraft

Is actually pretty accurate.

The more detail you want to resolve, the higher detail your sensor will need. As a result each pixel will receive proportionately less light, and so you'll want to increase the lens element size in order to capture more light.

Of course, there's a lot of caveats, but this is why you can buy 400mm lenses that look like this:
upload.wikimedia.org...
and like this
photorumors.com...

If you want higher resolving power with the same light per pixel, you sure as hell wouldn't go sending up the second into orbit.



posted on Mar, 27 2011 @ 08:42 AM
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Originally posted by exponent

Originally posted by FoosM
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exponent has still not answered all my questions.
And he has not clarified those he thought he answered.
Instead we get:

So far I have only answered 8 of your questions, you have substantively answered none of mine...



*reads entire post*

Nope, just as I expected, exponent didnt finish answering all my questions.
Well I guess that was that, thanks for playing exponent.
You are now included in the growing list of persons who cant defend NASA even with all the material available to you.



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