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Baby boy survives for nearly two days after abortion

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posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 04:41 PM
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What? Sounds like you think rape is justifiable punnishment for a woman having an abortion. Two wrongs don't make a right.

[edit on 30-4-2010 by riley]




posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 04:43 PM
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The whole can never have a child again surgery would come as a package with the abortion, with the "choice" of taking it or leaving it.



posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 04:44 PM
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Nope not at all.

Just saying the woman in the case given would have no say over her reproductive organs (which by the way cannot live without her body and are parasites because of this), just as the baby (sorry again fetus) has no say over if it lives or dies.


Let me ask this. Was the baby/fetus alive or dead before this optional surgery?

Raist



posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 04:59 PM
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He's talking about strapping a woman down and violating her reproductive organs with surgical instruments. Sounds like rape to me.


Kind of like punching a hole into a skull and sucking out the brains with a vaccum sounds like murder to me...but some people seem to not see it that way.


I 100% support the idea that women who choose to get an abortion should also get a procedure done so they can no longer have children. So things like this don't happen.

Thanks goes to DaMod for showing me this article of this disgusting woman.

15 Abortions in 17 Years



posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 05:09 PM
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Yes except it's not the baby's reproductive organs. It's a life via grey matter.



posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 05:12 PM
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True the body can live without reproductive organs. One cannot live without the brain that gets sucked out.

One is a life, the other is an organ.

Raist



posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 05:15 PM
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I cannot wait until her children grow up and find out about mommies fun times.


I am sure they will be very proud of her. She sounds like quite the prize. I am doing my best to be nice so I have to keep my comments on her limited.

Raist


[edit on 4/30/10 by Raist]



posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 05:21 PM
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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by riley
 




He's talking about strapping a woman down and violating her reproductive organs with surgical instruments. Sounds like rape to me.


Kind of like punching a hole into a skull and sucking out the brains with a vaccum sounds like murder to me...but some people seem to not see it that way.


Ah yes well said. I don't understand how people can justify abortion. I mean sure they've told me before but I just can't get a grasp on their thought process. To me it just sounds selfish and barbaric.

I think if they are going to keep this rediculous practice alive there has to be some sort of preventative method.

You're welcome for that article and I agree 15 abortions in 17 years is really abusing a "pro choice" stance. There should be a limit or something. Why not make it just 1?

What's the reasoning? Well she should have learned the first time!

Then again, the argument of "she shouldn't have opened up her legs in the first place" still stands. What kind of society are we becoming that the word "consequence" no has a real meaning anymore?

I mean you can see how people raise their children making them grow up to feel entitled without ever learning the meaning of "you reap what you sow". Then they decide to make the decision to go forward in the reproductive process and again are entitled to legal infanticide. What happened to the consequences? They where murdered with the baby.

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posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 05:30 PM
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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
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He's talking about strapping a woman down and violating her reproductive organs with surgical instruments. Sounds like rape to me.




Thanks goes to DaMod for showing me this article of this disgusting woman.

15 Abortions in 17 Years




The woman in that story is nothng short of an abomination against life. Im no fundamentalist when it comes to abortion and I think in cases of rape and proven incest it should be an option, but for this woman to have murdered over fifteen unborn infants just to anger her husband, and for the "high" that she would get from the experience. Truly sinister.

Then to have the nerve to write a book and try and profit from it. Absolutely vile, I fail to produce a word that can properly describe this wretched whore.


The only thing about her story that I find regrettable is that she didn't succeed in any of her failed attempts at suicide. She isn't some feminist heroine standing up for her productive rights, she is a mentally deranged butcher of infants and deserves to rot in a prison cell for the rest of her life while being spat upon by all who pass by.



posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 05:59 PM
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Originally posted by Moonman1111
Taken from www.realzionistnews.com...


JEWS HAVE USED A LIE to murder over 50 million Gentile babies since 1973 when the Supreme Court decided to grant the Jews their murderous demand in the Abortion-Rights case of Roe Vs Wade.

Yes - over a half a million Gentile babies have been murdered by the “Jewish” decision of the Supreme Court Justices in theRoe Vs Wade case. Even today, there is a Jewish Pro-Abortionist feminist on the Supreme Court bench by the name of Ruth Bader Ginsberg.


So we can't even discuss abortion now without one of our resident anti-semites jumping in with a link to a racist website.

Seriously mods, come on, this is beyond disgusting.



posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 06:26 PM
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I am pro-choice. However, I do not believe that abortions should be carried out after the first trimester. This story horrifies me, if true. Certainly, someone should be charged with something because no matter how a pro-choicer wants to spin it, the baby was (supposedly) alive after leaving the womb and that means it was a living, breathing human being.

22 weeks??!! That just seems so horrific and ghastly to me. That's more than half way through the pregnancy and even I can't deny there is a viable life inside the womb at that point.



posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 06:37 PM
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Wow, okay...

I'm backing out of this conversation. It seemed okay the first page or so, but now were talking about completely preventing a woman from ever having a child in her life if she does something you don't agree with???

Do you know how many women have had an abortion only to go on to have one or more beautiful children that they love with all they have and would even die for them? Guess all that means nothing if they don't conform to your opinions.

The turn this thread has taken will also go downhill, pick up speed, and crash at the bottom.



posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 08:06 PM
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Originally posted by nunya13
Wow, okay...

I'm backing out of this conversation. It seemed okay the first page or so, but now were talking about completely preventing a woman from ever having a child in her life if she does something you don't agree with???

Do you know how many women have had an abortion only to go on to have one or more beautiful children that they love with all they have and would even die for them? Guess all that means nothing if they don't conform to your opinions.

The turn this thread has taken will also go downhill, pick up speed, and crash at the bottom.


Just about sums up this thread, the level of incendiary belief pushing is very much disturbing. People should worry about their own body/family/friends and STFU already. And I love how these pro-life, troglodyte extremists bomb abortion clinics, knowing full well it won't stop abortions from happening, and end up KILLING people while trying to further their cause of saving life. Absolutely sickening and IMHO an act of domestic terrorism of the worse kind. This is all we need, more religiously-brainwashed people attacking us, and yes you must be brainwashed if you ever dare go to that extreme.



posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 08:12 PM
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Originally posted by marg6043
Reality check,

Any new born under 23 weeks born alive, will eventually die of complications, new borns born at 25 weeks most likely will be under intensive care for months before be able to leave the hospital and due to the weak and under develop lungs and organs they will most likely suffer health problems through their lives.

Plain and simple.

Is a tragedy that the article if is true and not some pro choice propaganda had a fetus this early live for two days without any care after an abortion, usually abortion means termination of pregnancy meaning death of the fetus.


Somebody actually screw up on this one.

now back to the abortion bashing and good luck with it
Wrong! I can't believe you got 9 stars for false information. Last time I checked my precious happy healthy 6 yr old was ALIVE with absolutely no long lasting complications other than less than perfect vision from oxygen and a few scares from the needles which are less and less visible as she ages and a funky looking belly button. I received steroid shots for 2 weeks prior to my daughters birth to help mature her lungs. She was also a fighter continually impressing the dr.s was didn't not have a very long hospital stay released as soon as she hit 4 LBS. Her cousin a 22 weeker may of had a slightly more difficult time than she did but he is now a happy healthy 7 yr old.



posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 08:15 PM
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Never would I advocate death of another for an abortion. That would be ridiculous. To suggest that any in the thread want that seems to be putting words into others mouths.

I guess you did not read the link about the woman getting 15 abortions in 17 years? Yep she is a winner symbol of the pro-choice group. I asked a question earlier that was not answered yet. So I’ll ask again.

Was the fetus alive or dead before it was aborted? I am not asking if it could or could not have survived outside of the womb, though I have shown in this case there was a chance the 22 week old baby could survive. At least give them that chance if nothing else.

But again in case it was missed. The fetus that is to be aborted, is it alive or dead before the abortion?


Raist



posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 08:17 PM
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Wow, what a turn about of a thread. How did it get from a doctor not performing a legal abortion correctly-thus leaving a living being suffering for a ong time, which may lead to homicide charges on the doctor to
all of this now, I'll never understand.

But the whole issue of abortion is so touchy that no matter where one stands, they are wrong in someone eyes.

have a good weekend eveyone.



posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 08:17 PM
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Yeah I gave many links and even videos of children born as early as 21 weeks. On the first page mind you.

But hey I am just some nut case pro-lifer in their eyes.


I am glad to hear your family members are doing very well though. Always good to hear such stories.


Raist



posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 08:41 PM
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[edit on 30-4-2010 by Moonman1111]



posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 08:53 PM
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The reality of "premature children born as early as 22 weeks" is statistic no an opinion plain and simple, if somebody had the miracle of having a child surviving that early in birth then they are to find themselves in a lot of medical and expensive care for the child lives.


Wrong again. I don't know how they do it in other states but her in california my daughter was covered by CCS (California's Crippled Children Services) They covered all of her medical care and will continue to do so until she is 19.

Thank you Raist. As someone who has first hand experience, of the amazing medical advancements available to to those of us with extremely premature children (Although I give a lot of credit to my daughters stubbornness and strong willed streak) I am deeply offended by Marge's dis-info. Until she has clocked in as many hours in a NICU as I have, until has had a child small enough to fit in the palm of her hand, until she has experienced the heartache of spending the first 16 hours of her child life not knowing that they were alive or not, she needs to be a little more careful on what she states as fact.
Goodness I have had to type and retype this so I didn't violate the T&C but this brought out a lot of strong emotions from me.



posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 09:26 PM
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Late-term abortions are always awful and shouldn't generally be allowed, but personally, I wouldn't want a disabled child either. If its disability is severe, I think I would spare it the miserable life it would lead. I don't mean to sound heartless.

[edit on 4/30/10 by MoothyKnight]



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