Tea Party Protester Meltdown

Why was it ok then and not now? Simple...
Compare how much the National Debt grew under eight years of the Bush administration and how much it has grown under two years of the current administration.
Another thing is that Obama is a compulsive lier. Look at his campaign promises and what he has actually been doing. The only one to date that I think he is trying to keep is his promise to fundamentally change America.
Bush was not a saint by any means but Obama in my opinion is much worse.
I guess the biggest reason people are so upset now is that he and his cronies laugh in our face, put us down and constantly lie. Main stream media is a joke and for some reason want a Nanny State just as bad as Obama.
My party lines have been dropped. If a candidate shows up that can actually promise the betterment of this country and he/she is not a career politician then they will get my vote.
Party lines have become trip wires. If you vote repub. or dem. you are still getting a career politician most of the time, that will do what is right for the inside of his pocket.
We as a nation can not afford to let our party lines come between us. Step over your trip wires and look beyond them.
For A LOT of people politics is like a ball game. Your team against my team. And that's how they treat it. Picture this... In the last game of the season a flag is thrown on the last play with seconds left on the clock. The outcome of the call could be the deciding factor in who wins the game. Each teams fans believe the flag was thrown against the opposing team. The call is made and of course one side or the other gets upset. Even when the instant replay is played for them several times they still refuse to see the truth. They will continue to argue, fuss and sometimes even fight. Deep down inside they know they are wrong but will never admit it.
This is no game and we my friends should not be the "fans". This is the life of our childrens children and we are the ones deciding what kind of country they will be brought into. We do not have the luxury of party lines any longer. It is time to stand up and be an American. It is time to turn back to our Constitution.

reply to post by Quadrivium


Who Are the Architects of the Economic Collapse?

Very interesting read with all sources for you to verify...Were you still trying to blame Bush? Oh you are such a sheeple.

Who are the architects of this debacle?

Here are some President Obama's closest allies and advisers.

Lawrence Summers played a key role in lobbying Congress for the repeal of the Glass Steagall Act. His timely appointment by President Clinton in 1999 as Treasury Secretary spearheaded the adoption of the Financial Services Modernization Act in November 1999. Upon completing his mandate at the helm of the US Treasury, he became president of Harvard University (2001- 2006).

Paul Volker was chairman of the Federal Reserve Board in the l980s during the Reagan era. He played a central role in implementing the first stage of financial deregulation, which was conducive to mass bankruptcies, mergers and acquisitions, leading up to the 1987 financial crisis.

Timothy Geithner is CEO of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, which is the most powerful private financial institution in America. He was also a former Clinton administration Treasury official. He has worked for Kissinger Associates and has also held a senior position at the IMF. The FRBNY plays a behind the scenes role in shaping financial policy. Geithner acts on behalf of powerful financiers, who are behind the FRBNY. He is also a member of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR)

Jon Corzine is currently governor of New Jersey, former CEO of Goldman Sachs.
Harvard University Economics Professor Lawrence Summers served as Chief Economist for the World Bank (1991–1993). He contributed to shaping the macro-economic reforms imposed on numerous indebted developing countries. The social and economic impact of these reforms under the IMF-World Bank sponsored structural adjustment program (SAP) were devastating, resulting in mass poverty.

Larry Summer's stint at the World Bank coincided with the collapse of the Soviet Union and the imposition of the IMF-World Bank's deadly " economic medicine" on Eastern Europe, the former Soviet republics and the Balkans.

In 1993, Summers moved to the US Treasury. He initially held the position of Undersecretary of the Treasury for international affairs and later Deputy Secretary. In liaison with his former colleagues at the IMF and the World Bank, he played a key role in crafting the economic "shock treatment" reform packages imposed at the height of the 1997 Asian crisis on South Korea, Thailand and Indonesia.

The bailout agreements negotiated with these three countries were coordinated through Summers office at the Treasury in liaison with the Federal Reserve Bank of New York and the Washington based Bretton Woods institutions. Summers worked closely with IMF Deputy Managing Director Stanley Fischer, who was later appointed Governor of the Central Bank of Israel.

Larry Summers became Treasury Secretary in July 1999. He is a protégé of David Rockefeller. He was among the main architects of the infamous Financial Services Modernization Act, which provided legitimacy to inside trading and outright financial manipulation.

Are you still trying to blame Bush?

reply to post by samhouston1886


You're generalizing on a MASSIVE scale.

Plenty of people know Bush was a nightmare. Plenty of people who voted for Obama now know it was a mistake (but there was no candidate that would now be any different, they're just the brand logo).

Many people criticize Bush for the totalitarian methods he implemented to prevent dissent, and now those same people are stating that it's okay for Obama to continue on that same path. This is hypocrisy.
You can't say it was bad that the Bush government did it, but okay for Obama's administration to do it.

And, you can't take one video clip and assume that all members of a group are exactly like that person.

And there is another very specific line of thought you need to remember: Innocent until proven guilty.

This was the same under Bush as it is under Obama. You cannot suggest that labeling people as criminals when they have done nothing wrong is okay for one leader and not for another.

This has nothing to do with party, race or religion. It has to do with Obama creating a tidal wave of hope amongst millions of Americans and then completely failing to deliver.
This is about the economy being in the toilet and the administration doing nothing of value to fix the problem.

reply to post by Flatfish


is uh even a word! if you read my thread and researched you would understand that the vote for ordinary citizen of the U.S has not counted for over 200 years, but uh if you think other wise then uh best of luck to you!

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What is offensive about the truth?

I understand that not everyone in the Tea Party is not a neocon but Tea Party leadership and its base are.

I am not talking to those that stood up when Bush was in Office, I talk to his supporters who now call themselves the "Tea Party"

When push comes to shove they will do what most modern "Conservatives" have always done elect, support and worship the most violent, criminal that's flying their colors.

Another Guarantee I can make here today is that nearly every Neocon Tea Party member who gets elected will go on to be the exact opposite of what they promised.

More War, More debt. less jobs, less equality.

If the Tea party takes over you better believe that people who don't agree with them politically will get fired, be assaulted without recourse, be denied medical care, just to name a few.

Keep in mind that the above mentioned situations have already played out, we have business owners saying they will have to fire people who voted for Obama, we have Doctors saying if you support Obama go elsewhere for care and yes we have had cases of people being attacked for supporting Obama.

Please tell me why the Tea Party is screaming commie at Barack Obama when they are Fascists themselves?


(From Wiki)
Fascism, pronounced /ˈfæʃɪzəm/, is a radical and authoritarian nationalist political ideology.[1][2][3][4] Fascists seek to organize a nation on corporatist perspectives, values, and systems such as the political system and the economy.[5][6] Scholars generally consider fascism to be on the far right of the conventional left-right political spectrum,[7][8][9][10][11][12] although some scholars claim that fascism has been influenced by both the left and the right.[13][14]

Fascists believe that a nation is an organic community that requires strong leadership, singular collective identity, and the will and ability to commit violence and wage war in order to keep the nation strong.[15] They claim that culture is created by collective national society and its state, that cultural ideas are what give individuals identity, and thus rejects individualism.[15] In viewing the nation as an integrated collective community, they claim that pluralism is a dysfunctional aspect of society, and justify a totalitarian state as a means to represent the nation in its entirety.[16][17] They advocate the creation of a single-party state.[18] Fascist governments forbid and suppress openness and opposition to the fascist state and the fascist movement.[19] They identify violence and war as actions


Sounds like the neocons aka "Tea Party" circa 2005 to me!

Sorry but a leopard cant change his spots, you better believe that I am here to rally the troops, rule by President Obama and our current government while not spectacular or even acceptable is still a whole lot better than rule by the Neocon Tea Party.


Unless something better comes along I will be Obama in 2012 all the way.

Democrat pronounced `FaCe PaLm.

Somehow I think you like to suck those welfare dollars of the teet of the Feds. With the administration doling out one entitlement after another, you never have to work again.

reply to post by prionace glauca




Thats funny, like any one individual could live a decent life on what they pay out.

Those that do live 15 to a home packed in like rats in crime ridden ghettos.

All forms of never ending aid to the able bodied suck but that's a problem older than most of the people here.

Go ahead and cut them off but you will need to buy a lot of bullets to keep up with the crime.

Some could say the Democrats hand over the money in entitlements but the fact is the average person on the street has not seen a raise of any significance since Obama came in.

Just so you know, the Republicans love to spend money too,
they love to spend it on war and on jails.

I would rather see my paycheck taxed to feed a fat lazy slob who never worked a day in their life than to be taxed for the purposes of murder against a sovereign people.

Originally posted by Quadrivium
Why was it ok then and not now? Simple...
Compare how much the National Debt grew under eight years of the Bush administration and how much it has grown under two years of the current administration.
Another thing is that Obama is a compulsive lier. Look at his campaign promises and what he has actually been doing. The only one to date that I think he is trying to keep is his promise to fundamentally change America.
Bush was not a saint by any means but Obama in my opinion is much worse.
I guess the biggest reason people are so upset now is that he and his cronies laugh in our face, put us down and constantly lie. Main stream media is a joke and for some reason want a Nanny State just as bad as Obama.
My party lines have been dropped. If a candidate shows up that can actually promise the betterment of this country and he/she is not a career politician then they will get my vote.
Party lines have become trip wires. If you vote repub. or dem. you are still getting a career politician most of the time, that will do what is right for the inside of his pocket.
We as a nation can not afford to let our party lines come between us. Step over your trip wires and look beyond them.
For A LOT of people politics is like a ball game. Your team against my team. And that's how they treat it. Picture this... In the last game of the season a flag is thrown on the last play with seconds left on the clock. The outcome of the call could be the deciding factor in who wins the game. Each teams fans believe the flag was thrown against the opposing team. The call is made and of course one side or the other gets upset. Even when the instant replay is played for them several times they still refuse to see the truth. They will continue to argue, fuss and sometimes even fight. Deep down inside they know they are wrong but will never admit it.
This is no game and we my friends should not be the "fans". This is the life of our childrens children and we are the ones deciding what kind of country they will be brought into. We do not have the luxury of party lines any longer. It is time to stand up and be an American. It is time to turn back to our Constitution.

Very well said, I agree with you.

What I am saying is that the "Tea Party" is controled by the very people that wish to destroy this country.

Why would anyone in the right mind side with them?

Originally posted by samhouston1886

Originally posted by Quadrivium
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Very well said, I agree with you.

What I am saying is that the "Tea Party" is controled by the very people that wish to destroy this country.

Why would anyone in the right mind side with them?

I think that if the tea parties were really run by "neocons" their protest would be a lot more violent or at least a little violent. The video you posted is probably a far left liberal recruited to cause trouble by the left. Look to this administration if you want to find people trying to "destroy this country". I am not only talking about Pres. Obama. Look at all the people he surrounds himself with. Just PLEASE look. He has proclaimed communist, socialist and marxist all around him. He claimed he would distance himself from lobbiest and has over 20 working with him. Look at the judges he is appointing. Look at the bills he has asked congress to pursue. Look at his past and the people he associated with. Look, look, look PLEASE! You will have to research, you can not depend on the news. They paint everything this administration does in a golden light. And anyone that disagrees is a racist or a nazi.
I am not sure where you got the neocon info or that the leaders of the "tea party" are trying to destroy this country. Most of them are led by locals in each city/town. Sure there have to be people higher up but who are they? Republicans? In most cases they are against republicans as well as democrats. They are looking for candidates who support the constitution not ones that want to trash it and start over. Obama said it himself. He wants to FUNDAMENTALY CHANGE America.