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U.S. Army training to for issues with TeaParties...

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posted on Apr, 29 2010 @ 04:07 PM
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www.infowars.com...


It seems the US Army is now training against their own... Snipers, demo experts... Lots of interesting info in this doc...




posted on Apr, 29 2010 @ 04:14 PM
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Nothing about teaparts in that video looks like the training for Afganstan they have urban areas they have to fight over thir to.

Mod needs to send this to the skunk works its bogus.



posted on Apr, 29 2010 @ 04:20 PM
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Ok, did you read the document with the video, beneath where the video is?

Why not try to read the whole article before you whine.



posted on Apr, 29 2010 @ 04:25 PM
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Found a different angle over here you might want to look at.

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Apr, 29 2010 @ 04:38 PM
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I figured someone beat me too it, glad to see others are paying attention.



posted on Apr, 29 2010 @ 04:57 PM
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I am going to call it: The document is a fake. It is a good fake but it is a fake. The language is all wrong and there are mispellings in the document. An order has to be clear and normally it is double checked for mispellings, as well as a classification as to its nature and has officer signatures on it. This has none of those.
The reality is that the government is worried about the Tea Party movement. I also believe that they have such under surviellence for trouble, but from everything that I have seen it has all been peaceful. No riots, no thrown punches, nothing to indicate any sort of violence.
And contrary to popular thought it is foolish to protest a military instillation, cause all they do is lock it down, and no one can get on or off.



posted on Apr, 29 2010 @ 05:18 PM
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On Alex JOnes today regarding this subject, there was a military soldier(?)speaking about the naive soldiers being trained for militia/tea party task force(I don't know what else to call it)
He stated that the mentality of these soldiers was as such, they didn't really understand the unconstitutionality of being ordered to assault citizens on their homeland.

The Rambos need to understand this...it's simple and clear:
While you're on the east coast harassing, jailing, arresting grannies, daughters, sisters, and moms.......there will be a Rambo on the west coast doing the same to your granny, daughter, sister, or mom.
Hooahhh.

I definitely will get my husband, a vet from Vietnam, to listen at 6:00 Central time for the rerun.

512-646-5000



posted on Apr, 29 2010 @ 07:08 PM
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While I can not prove its real or fake, Im leaning towards real.

The FEMA NLE10 doc had no signatures and it wasnt neatly put together, but real nonetheless.




Soldiers are not trained on Costitutional aspects of warfare for the most part. Foot soldiers that is. Officers and such do, but most of these men and women will follow orders.

I know, I was in the service, as was both parents.

I know how this system works.

Today, we train ours to be good bullet stoppers and little else. The ones flying the drones from a base out in the middle of no where are the ones that Im worries about most. Weve seen them in action oversees recently on video, its a game to them. Now DHS Sec wants to fly drones over the borders.......


Yea, this ends good for us huh?

Ill say real. I have little doubt about this being something from our govt. Weather its a false BETA test to see where people are at, or a test doc to see if people will snap.

Troops in ChiTown, Martial Law in Louisiana, The South Border a mess and about to see martial law...

400,000 troops stationed in US for civil unrest...



Ill start packing myself... Obviously Americans are no longer welcome in America without being called a terrorist or racist.



posted on Apr, 29 2010 @ 10:32 PM
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I can tell you right now that nobody in the military is training to be used against Americans. There is even an organization about keeping the oath you took to defend the country it's called Oath Keepers. Many military servicemen are affilated with it and this topic it talked about by Marines and soldiers not by higher ups trying to plant things in heads but in general and trust me no order would ever be followed to go against fellow countrymen. Yes I know we could get into a huge topic on if what is going on in 2010 is constitutional and what this adminstation is trying to do, but I'm not getting into that. I'm here to let you know that America's military is not working up to be used against American's in America.



posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 12:07 AM
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Really?

Are you in the military, or have you ever served?

If so, in what capacity?


Also, why would 400+ troops be stationed for civil unrest here in the US?


I doubt all would soldier against their own countryman, but some will and to think otherwise is not living in reality in my honest opinion.


How about the G20 summit in PA last year? They used LRAD's on US citizens and infringed upon many civil liberties. I guess this isnt the same thing right? NonLethal force makes it ok I guess.


I have no reservations thinking our military is capable of such things after seeing what some of them do over there in heli's.

Im talking about the WikiLeaks video. I know, Arabs arent humans, but I still value all life regardless of location or beliefs systems.

Im sorry, but I think you are not seeing whats really going on in our nation today.



posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 12:16 AM
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This is what a lot of us were in fear of. A lot of my political posts always regarded the following... "Then and only then, will we know if our own brothers and sisters (cops or military) will hurt us." There goes the answer to that. Hopefully when the time comes it wont be too late.



posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 12:35 AM
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Is infowars.com is the Mecca of fear mongering.


I think the only thing we have to fear is fear itself..

What we have to fear is a bunch of scared, ignorant, and desperate people looking for an enemy to blame.. Illegal aliens? Maybe, maybe not.. China? Well they make all our stuff, so why hate them for that.. Iran? They might have nukes.. but we have no Iranian infiltration in the system. Muslims? Hrmm.. maybe; after all, Iran has Muslims -- so does Iraq, and Afghanistan, and we were attacked by Muslims; they also constitute a very low portion of the voting bloc, so they can't really fight back politically... but who knows if they'll be the ones we blame *shrug*


It doesn't matter if we blame the jews or muslims or whoever.. what matters is that scared and desperate people are capable of doing some pretty vial and disgusting things. So lets hope people don't get too scared, because fear is what scares me the most.



posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 12:43 AM
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Originally posted by Goethe
While I can not prove its real or fake, Im leaning towards real.

The FEMA NLE10 doc had no signatures and it wasnt neatly put together, but real nonetheless.



I think it's also real. It fits with everything else that has been going on.

I don't know why the US would even bother denying undertaking training in counter insurgency. They've been doing it for years now.

It's just a matter of time now before we see troops on the streets to crush the inevitable dissent that will be coming.

Everyone knows it is. Soon the UK and the US will be like Greece. If left untouched the Tea Party could swell in size to something big enough to challenge the establishment.

It's quite obvious from the months of total media attack and the attempts by both parties to take it down the tea party is a threat.

US citizens can't be allowed to congregate in unions or large groups because they might be able to effect change. This is a threat to continuance of government and NO GOVERNMENT ON EARTH would not do something about the Tea Party.

Anyone that thinks otherwise is being naive.

If the Tea Party and the "patriot movement" weren't such a threat why would TPTB expend so much energy on them?


[edit on 30-4-2010 by belial259]



posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 12:50 AM
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I agree with you about how big business (can we get that straight? The news is owned by a consortium of advertisers and private businesses which are worth billions of dollars.. not the govt. The govt isn't keeping you in the dark -- big business is) wants society to remain atomized and susceptible to propaganda (hard to know anything when you get all your info from big business, and you don't talk to anybody else).

But the tea party is basically the Republican party.. Most tea partiers are republicans and in a slightly higher income bracket. There's almost zero risk of them ever going democrat, and Independent candidates will never get enough money to hold a candle to the quasar-like brightness that the mainstream candidates have..


But, it is important that the tea party not have their own speakers, who'll tell them the truth -- which is why Sara Palin appears at all the rallies, imo. That's how they're controlling this movement, and in due time the tea party will be reabsorbed into the Republican party -- because Americans have short memories



posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 11:03 AM
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While I agree InfoWars is hyped to the bone with fear, its also one of the only places to get true news anymore.


You can make fun of Alex Jones all ya want, but he called 90% of this sh!t years ago. Now its cool to be.




I find the Army disgusting in doing this. Following orders or not. I was in the Army and would never turn my rifle on a US citizen, even if ordered too.

I find hope though knowing so many soldiers right now stationed here and over seas, and knowing what these men and women think.



posted on May, 2 2010 @ 10:17 PM
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I appreciate you trying to call me out and yes I currently do serve. I'm a Marine and like I previously said there's no training going on for fighting on this soil against Americans. I'm sorry its not as cool as the stuff that other people say on other sites with a few pictures that they can say are going to be used for whatever point they're trying to make. Honestly go take a picture of anything and you can put a big back story behind it and probably convince some people to believe it but does it make it true?



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 08:40 AM
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Well, honestly I wasnt trying to call you out on anything. I was simply trying to see if you had first hand knowledge, or were talking from the rear. Thats all. I should reread my posts sometimes, I guess I come off like a jerk to some...
My bad.


While I thank you for your service, I respectfully have to disagree. I dont think all branches or units train for this stuff, but to say none do is a patant falsehood.

CONTINUITY OF GOVERNMENT

They have to train for this. Its a fact.

Maybe not every drill said to be one, is. BUT THEY DO TRAIN FOR THIS

I can absolutely state for fact, 82nd AirBorne has in the past, as did the 101st.

I honestly think Marines and Special Ops would be the hardest to get to go along with this stuff personally. Rangers dont harm their own, nor do Green Berets or SEALs.

How about HR645? Or... Maybe the complete misuse and destruction of Posse Comitatus?

Thats a direct threat against every American civilian.



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 05:14 PM
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I might have over reacted a little bit to but hey shows we got passion about the subject right lol. I have been a Grunt my whole career, school trained 0351 and then being cross trained to be in the Plt. I'm currently in and yes I know that we've done mock drills thorughout cities and beaches and that can look like we're training up to be used in America, you obviously know most of the time it's used to simulate real world enviroments around the globe. I'm not saying training has never happend for situations on American soil but it's not to fight our fellow countrymen. Yes I know you can say but higher up that's the plan which we can debate here until it either happens or we die and I'm not even saying that it's totally false. The fact is who's the one's going to actually do it, do you really believe that the many American's who now a days join full well knowing their going to be putting their life on the line for this country will just accept that order and turn their guns on America? I for one don't and I don't think anyone I know from across the branches would either and I pray to god that we never have to hope I'm right.



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 11:09 PM
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Great post!


I have to agree, and heres why I am thinking like you in this.

There will be a select few who just dont care about anything enough to shoot Americans in America.
We both know this.

My thinking is this... They dont need U.N. troops like feared for 30+ years.

We. or I should say 'they', have BlackWater/XE Services, and others just like them.

And while I know better than most the core group of guys this is, I know most will have no trouble following orders...

I think you also know this too.

It wont be a large amount of U.S. active duty doing this, theyll be used for open containment and perimeters.

They wont be used unless fired upon or openly engaged.

However, the mercs wont be so nice to us.

Are you state side currently? Or over 'there'?



posted on May, 3 2010 @ 11:10 PM
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Also, yes, we both seem to be passionate about this. As do alot here at ATS.


I find varying opinions and theories, but fact remains fact here and thats why I like it, and the people.


Ive heard this before, and it fits now more than ever in America...

'You can have your own set of opinions, but fact is fact, and you can not have your own facts.'



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