Fifty States enough?

It has been fifty years since the last state was admitted to the union. the protectorates have had chances time and again to become states,and have refused. Do you believe that there should be a law passed limiting this country to the standing fifty states? Or should we allow any small country to demand statehood?
My opinion is to pass a law limiting this country to the first fifty states. The issue of trying to admit Purto Rico,has to have deeper political ramifications than mere statehood. Something along the lines of a political coup.
Speak up, what is your opinion?

Originally posted by daddyroo45
My opinion is to pass a law limiting this country to the first fifty states.

Some of us DC residents would beg to disagree.

reply to post by schrodingers dog

Why should an area the size of a large township become a state? What would it accomplish except to place undue pressure on the rest of the House?

reply to post by daddyroo45


You're kidding right?

600,000 people (slightly less than N. Dakota and Alaska) not represented in congress and taxed like the rest of the country without real representation?

There are numerous congressional district with far slighter populations.

Argh.

reply to post by schrodingers dog

Ever wonder why D.C. was set up to be independent from any state? Ever given any thought as to why D.C should not have a seat in congress?

House rules.... My house my rules. A lot of pressure makes diamonds. A little pressure bends congress.
Just way to much influence!

Originally posted by schrodingers dog
reply to post by daddyroo45

 

You're kidding right?

600,000 people (slightly less than N. Dakota and Alaska) not represented in congress and taxed like the rest of the country without real representation?

There are numerous congressional district with far slighter populations.

Argh.

With all of the wet dreams the teabaggers have that they share some solidarity w/ the real Boston tea-party, you'd think that giving D.C. residents taxation w/ representation would be tops on their agenda.

As you point out, what is obscene is the VAST over-representation of barley inhabited areas of the country. We need to get rid of they tyranny of the minority that the system affords Wyoming, Idado, the Dakotas, etc., etc. It's time to increase the level of democracy in our representative system.

Best,
SN

SD I agree that it is a bad deal for the residents of D.C. to not have voting representation in the house or senate.

That being said, I don't think that D.C. should have any non gov't employee residences. NO permanent homes.

Maybe the answer is to cede the residential areas back to the state it was carved from.

I don't think the answer is to give voting power in Congress to the District of Colombia.

Isn't the reason for it's origin to keep any state that would hold the capitol from trying to abuse any other state, or claiming a greater need, through the housing of of our government within that states borders.

How about 49 states or even less ?

If it's so easy to vote your "state/non territory/bananna republic" into slavery for banksters why can you vote your state OUT ?

There is a catch 22.

Originally posted by sporkmonster

Isn't the reason for it's origin to keep any state that would hold the capitol from trying to abuse any other state, or claiming a greater need, through the housing of of our government within that states borders.

The Statehood issue is a red herring in many ways ...

It is a vehicle through which DC residents would get their fair and due congressional representation ... statehood is fact not required if a constitutional amendment allowed us our proportional representation without actual statehood.

The problem is that in reality, the chances are higher to get this representation as a natural consequence of statehood than without it. Creating a constitutional vehicle for non-state representation is far more difficult than becoming a state and have all the associated privileges, one of which being taxation with representation.

In the end I dare say that most DC residents couldn't care less if DC is a state or not ... what we're all pretty passionate about is having the same voice as the rest of the citizenry.

[edit on 29 Apr 2010 by schrodingers dog]

Why would anyone else want to be a state of the US? Washington
has screwed over the fifty states we have now. Why would anyone in
their right mind want to be controlled like the rest of this country is?
If Puerto Rico has any sense they will never become a state. They have
it too good now to bother with becoming another chunk of land under
the thumb of Washington.

reply to post by daddyroo45


Fifty PLANETS are not enough.

Fifty stars means fifty stars, and I for one won't be satisfied until the Stripes fly on the planets of Fifty Suns.

This world must be united sooner or later... with Man, or without.

Originally posted by Chakotay
reply to post by daddyroo45

 

Fifty PLANETS are not enough.

Fifty stars means fifty stars, and I for one won't be satisfied until the Stripes fly on the planets of Fifty Suns.

This world must be united sooner or later... with Man, or without.

So your view is to annex the rest of the world? Whether they want to be a state or not?

America minus Alaska isn't much bigger than Australia (land mass size wise). And we get by fine with 7-8 states - you guys should bring it down to 10.

If the question was, do you want to be a state of the United States of America, I would honor the right of the people of Puerto Rico's wishes, but the question is not that, it is a sneaky way of getting them into the country.
Ask yourself this:
Are you happy with the status Quo?
Kind of a loaded question, but what it ends up doing is narrowing the choices that the people of that island have. I do not believe it is the right way to achieve such.

reply to post by daddyroo45


Adding such territory's as Wake and Guam as a state or states would clear up or solve the constitutional surrounding residents in those places voting in US presidential elections and any issues with political representation otherwise . I am not in a position to comment on the willingness for such a thing to happen .

Cheers xpert11.

reply to post by AliensAreDemons


Why did my above post about Barry Soetoro and his 57 states get censored???
Strange... now I have to question the real motives behind this website.
Trust no one people!

I got an email today from (act for America) about the 57 state issues. They have been asked several time if they wanted state hood each time it is on there ballot it has been a clear NO. It is nothing more than a numbers game people, if they can get them in they will have that many more voters at the polls so they can better sink us further into socialism and also helps there agenda for legalizing the illegal that are currently residing in the US. This is only the beginning of a rapid decline of our Constitution and our way of life. America as it was intended to be, is dieing faster everyday our time is running out one world order will prevail even if we began a new civil war it would do little good. But America is a dream and a dream can never die, we can keep the founding principles in our hearts and resurrect America once more, any were in the world be it a small island in the middle of the ocean or here after the blood dries. Take to the waters organize and stay safe when the battle begins and hopefully enough of us will survive to rebirth America as it was truly intended. God Bless us all through these dark times.

reply to post by schrodingers dog


DC is a Federal District and should have never been set up for housing to begin with..

EDITED to add this nifty 2nd line..

[edit on 30-4-2010 by broahes]

Originally posted by skunknuts
We need to get rid of they tyranny of the minority that the system affords Wyoming, Idado, the Dakotas, etc., etc. It's time to increase the level of democracy in our representative system.

No offense, but I think our Founding Fathers got it right. Pretty amazing that they did so on the first try too.