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New Jersey Principal Wants to Keep Middle School Kids Off Facebook -- Do You Agree?

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posted on Apr, 29 2010 @ 07:53 PM
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Urufist and Pyrael,

You two are so refreshing. Really. I mean it. Parents that actually take the time to get involved in their child's life. Parents that care about what their child accesses and when/how they can access it. This is what every parent should be doing. Unfortunately, in my line of work, people like you are the minority, and it's really, really sad. It is true that kids are "growing up" on the internet today. Before I had the internet I was outdoors playing nerf guns or paintball, or whatever. The internet to me (at the time) was a research tool for school projects. It was a place to meet penpals (I had one from Australia for many years. I met her through the Buffalo Sabres chat room way back when they had one. My parents talked to her on the phone once just to make sure she was who she said she was. I miss her, because she always had good things to say and encouraging things when I was feeling kinda down. She was much older...she was something like 23 when I was 13, but it was like having a big sister around), and it was a place to read the news for my current events class.

Anyway, the point I'm trying to make is: kudos for both of you for being responsible parents, without being overbearing. I'm sure your kids will grow up being as responsible and trustworthy as you both are. For that I thank you, from a teacher to parents.


Peace be with you.

-truthseeker




posted on Apr, 29 2010 @ 07:55 PM
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Isn't that the job of the parents? to monitor children activities in the net?



posted on Apr, 29 2010 @ 08:13 PM
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Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by truthseeker1984
 


Isn't that the job of the parents? to monitor children activities in the net?







That is exactly my point. It IS their job. Some parents don't want to take that role for whatever reason. So I was congratulating two parents who actually DO take that role in their children's lives.


Peace be with you.

-truthseeker



posted on Apr, 29 2010 @ 09:07 PM
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Thanks for the kudos, truthseeker!


When I was first introduced to computers, We didn't have the internet
There was some kind of dial up network thing, but it wasn't the web. Only "rich people" had it. In the '80s it was really expensive, you had to pay monthly for the service and then a long distance call. (Worse than AOhelL) I'm talking back when Gates released MS-DOS version 1.25.

So anyway, the ideas of computers being such an integrated part of life was completely fantasy. I messed with my commodore 64 off and on, but really it was a video game for me. I was IMO lucky though. I had the woods and trails, camping, bikes, and heck even marbles!! to keep me entertained. My soon to be 6 year old daughter gets probably an hour of computer time a day, and mostly it's learning games. I'd like for her, as well as all 5 of my kids, to know the world hands on instead of from a monitor.

It saddens me to see teens in front of computers IMing their schoolmates, when they could simply "hang out" in person. On the other hand, being able to talk to big brother/sister who's away at college or overseas in Iraq or something is great also, so it's not a "one size fits all" thing.

The day the Government get's THAT involved is the day the revolution starts (IMHO)



posted on May, 1 2010 @ 04:58 AM
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My 18th birthday was almost 5 months ago, and I have essentially grown up on the Internet since the age of 4 or 5. Speaking from experience, I know that no matter who attempts to restrict it, a determined kid will find a way around it. Hell, even at 10 years old I was finding holes through whatever parental control my parents could throw at me. To be honest, the schools and parents doing everything they could to restrict tha kind of thing simply made us want it more. It even eventually led me to my current job and college major.

In short: They can try to restrict or ban it all they want -- determined kids will still find a way to get to it. They may even learn a thing or 2 in the process, like me.



posted on May, 1 2010 @ 07:54 AM
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I agree that facebook is crap and so do my friends thats why me and my friends are developing a new social networking site that is different one that gets people out and socialising more by taking part in out door activitie's/ Extreme sports www.worldwide-socialnetworking.com its been in development for the last 2 years now and has really started taking off. I personally think its a great site and have spent all of my free time helping with the development. Feel free to check it out!

[edit on 1-5-2010 by brizellious]



posted on May, 28 2010 @ 06:30 PM
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Imagine my stepson's surprise when I told him a cell phone was a privilege and not a right, and that they weren't for living on, they were for emergencies. The old " but everybody has one" doesn't work in this family, and we believe in face to face communication with our friends and family.



posted on May, 28 2010 @ 06:46 PM
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We absolutely need to limit the flow of information of all kinds to children and young adults too.

After we control the www. let's burn some books that they don't need to be reading.



posted on May, 28 2010 @ 06:49 PM
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I think Facebook is junk alltogether.

I won't let my kid make a Facebook page if it's still around when he's older.

Although, I am waiting on the FaceTopSecret as I personally refer to it. Or Tinbook, or ConspiracyBook, or what have you. That would be interesting here.

Although, I think if that is going to happen, y'all are going to need many new moderators.



posted on May, 28 2010 @ 06:51 PM
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Originally posted by whaaa
We absolutely need to limit the flow of information of all kinds to children and young adults too.

After we control the www. let's burn some books that they don't need to be reading.


You're comparing Facebook to a library?

I guess it is a library of sorts... It's a library of a bunch of lunatics. It's a good database in which we might look for drinking buddies or potheads or vulnerable little girls.

Of course, so is school, so what do I know.



posted on May, 28 2010 @ 06:56 PM
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You can't stop technology from coming. Even if this principals efforts do succeed their efforts will ultimately end up wasted. Within years children will be walking around with Iphones/driods which have access to the internet; any attempt to ban the sites through the school network will be easy to work around.

He will have to come up with another solution to the problem.



posted on May, 28 2010 @ 06:59 PM
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Originally posted by Styki
You can't stop technology from coming. Even if this principals efforts do succeed their efforts will ultimately end up wasted. Within years children will be walking around with Iphones/driods which have access to the internet; any attempt to ban the sites through the school network will be easy to work around.

He will have to come up with another solution to the problem.


Or parents should just do their job.

Ohhhhhh. What now.

Oh wait, that's not going to happen...

Well, let it all run its course then. Don't damage the freedom of the few who do well just because there are a lot of careless people.



posted on May, 28 2010 @ 07:05 PM
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Originally posted by TarzanBeta

Originally posted by whaaa
We absolutely need to limit the flow of information of all kinds to children and young adults too.

After we control the www. let's burn some books that they don't need to be reading.


You're comparing Facebook to a library?

I guess it is a library of sorts... It's a library of a bunch of lunatics. It's a good database in which we might look for drinking buddies or potheads or vulnerable little girls.

Of course, so is school, so what do I know.


Not much!!!

You start with censorship of the www. and fascism won't be far behind. It already has a foothold with corporate ownership of the New media.

[edit on 28-5-2010 by whaaa]



posted on May, 28 2010 @ 07:08 PM
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It would do you well to read my post again.

Well, I guess it would do me well for you to read again because then your perception of what I said might become clearer.

Please stop fascism for us all, whaaa.



posted on May, 28 2010 @ 07:11 PM
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When the child is in school they should only be accessing information relevant to coursework.
When the child is at home they should only be accessing websites that are monitored by their parents.

But this is an idealisitic situation. Unsurprisingly, a vast majority of people at parenting age are ignorant when it comes to technology. I didn't start using the internet until I was eighteen years old, and now, nearly a decade later, I am teaching my parents how to use a computer.
Personally, I feel more than equipped to handle social networking sites, but I have had my fair share of complete strangers adding me and making insane requests, and this is where the worries come in, because of the sheer amount of teenagers using this website. Teenagers are still growing, physically and mentally, and this should be taken into account.

I am hoping that facebook does install a panic button as I think it will be used. That is one step from their end that would do a little to combat the ills of global interaction. I will continue to use the site and value the time I can spend with friends that live hundreds and thousands of miles away from me.

I would like to touch upon the bullying that occurs on social networking sites for a second. Facebook is not the root of this problem, but simply another platform to be utilised by cowards who feel better by making others suffer. I see websites like this becoming demonised and used as a scapegoat so much, when it would be painfully easy to turn it around and start to educate people, bot children and adults, on appropriate etiquette and the consequences that their own actions bring. Bullying and student suicides did not start on the internet, they are simply more widely recognised now because of the unique interactions we have via the internet.

I think it's an important lesson for both parties, but at the end of it all, it isn't up to a school to prohibit students actions once they leave the school premises. Allow parents to make an INFORMED decision themselves, keep computers at home in a place where everyone can see it, and monitor your own children.



posted on May, 28 2010 @ 07:18 PM
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This one is simple.

1. Monitoring computers at home is the parents job. Period!

2. Monitoring computers at school is the schools job. Period! They have every right to block access on school computers.

3. Schools can TEACH about the hazards of being on the internet. ALL areas - not just social networking.

As a matter-of-fact - - - I would suggest special classes for parents also.



posted on May, 28 2010 @ 07:25 PM
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Originally posted by TarzanBeta


You're comparing Facebook to a library?

I guess it is a library of sorts... It's a library of a bunch of lunatics. It's a good database in which we might look for drinking buddies or potheads or vulnerable little girls.



It would do you well to read my post again.

Well, I guess it would do me well for you to read again because then your perception of what I said might become clearer.







I read your post. You made youself abundantly clear.

Hyperbole much?

Facebook is also a great place for adults to network for information on employment, rentals, transportation etc.

I don't know what kids use it for but far be it for me to try and control what their parents should be doing.




[edit on 28-5-2010 by whaaa]



posted on May, 29 2010 @ 10:45 AM
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We absolutely need to limit the flow of information of all kinds to children and young adults too. After we control the www. let's burn some books that they don't need to be reading.


Amen

I have my own issues with facebook - but this ain't them

it's not going away - it's part of the real world - and so are the kids

I've never understood the concept of protecting children from information. They need to learn how to observe, analyze, discriminate and interact in this world. Putting anything off limits does not help them - teaching them how stuff works (including people) does

you can only lock them in their rooms for so long - and that does it's own kind of damage

I agree - no FB at school - that's a no-brainer. But this particular campaign seems - irrational. He should maybe put his energy into teaching kids how to be online safely



[edit on 5/29/2010 by Spiramirabilis]



posted on May, 29 2010 @ 11:15 AM
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How is this news? At my public high school, facebook and myspace are blocked, along with any semi-interesting sites such as YouTube, Hulu, or Twitter.



posted on May, 29 2010 @ 11:16 AM
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I think it is in NO WAY shape or form a Government funded institutions business to tell ANYONE what they can do with there free time.It is the job of the family Unit.It is really getting out of hand when School officials are starting to invade our kids private lives and telling them what they CAN and CANNOT have...



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