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Chemtrails Revealed!!!: What they are, who is doing it and why.

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posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 12:52 AM
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yawn.

Chemtrail Chemicals Patents from Hughes Aircraft
North Texas "chemtrails"
MAJOR CHEMTRAILS IN OKLAHOMA TODAY! but why?
Suggestion for chemtrails
HARRP And Chemtrail info
always chemtrails
Chemtrails at night
A Connection between Chemtrails and Foil Hats
Influenza found in chemtrails, cause of flu?
Contrails and microwaves
Chemtrails - Serious Question
Chemtrails, help me understand them.
Chemtrails:Get the Truth!!!
The latest "chemtrail" news
Just saw 'chemtrails' being made.
Chemtrial/Contrail Experiment
Chemtrail or wierd contrail?
Chemtrails a Cure/Antidote?????!!!!!!!
Chemtrails Myth or Menace?
AMERICAS UNDER ATTACK! Chemtrails over NJ
Chemtrail Technologicaly Improving?
New Chemtrails Smell! Hevaey Chemtrail sprying over Michigan!! URGENT!!!
Chemtrail debate
Chemtrail Question
Chemtrails/Contrails, cool picture reguardless!!!!
NORAD and Chemtrails
chemtrails just weather mods
Just Witnessed Chemtrails For First Time
Chemtrails Are Good For Us.
Painting the sky..(pics)
Chemtrails: Our Biggest Threat
Chemtrail In Seattle?
Chemtrail ?? (picture)
The Chemtrail Hoax
Chemtrail proof
Chemtrails -- They NEVER Stop spraying!
Cork Screw Contrails
Aircraft contrails
NASA image shows intricate web of chemtrails over the US
A PATTERN NOTICED IN CHEMTRAILS!!!
wtf? tube clouds? maybe chemtrails or just strange happenings.
Are these chemtrials or contrails?
Round 1. NephraTari V EnronOutrunHomerun: Chemtrails
Increased airplane activity, Contrails and Chemtrails in Sweden
What aircraft gives off the ringed contrails?
The world fights back against chemtrails
Chemtrails, Nye County, NV, 2-8-05
Chemtrail videos
Chemtrails over Wa state
another chemtrail thread not really but kinda
some chemtrail pictures from today in upstate NY
Can we finally settle this Chemtrail thing?
Chemtrails Don't Exist? Haha, Explain This.
Monday - Friday, Chemtrails. (images)
Chemtrails Confirmed
Chem Trails in your neck of the woods?
Chemtrails




posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 12:53 AM
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Are Chemtrails making you sick?
Con/chemtrails from space
This is not a chemtrail! Atmospheric Phenomenen explained
Operation cloverleaf - Chemtrails?
Chemtrail Science?
Anyone Know of a Good Antidote for Chemtrails?
Report Chemtrails.
Chemtrail pics?
Chemtrails whats the real purpose
Chemtrail pics 11-10-06
is this a chemtrail/contrail very strange
Chemtrail Chemicals Patents from Hughes Aircraft
Canada dept. of def. aircraft engineer reveals how he worked on chemtrail equip. W/picture proof.
When did chemtrails start?
southern ca-chemtrail sraying in progress
NBC news report on chemtrails!!!
Youtube video of chemtrails
Chemtrails awareness inscreased.
I have Photo Evidence of chemtrail activity! pics are working!
Chemtrail photos: ATS report

The Chemtrail Phenomenon
What is all this chemtrail hype?
Dog goes postal at "Chemtrails"?
The most likely cause of Morgellons, and it may not be from Chemtrails!
Contrail or Chemtrail? Photo - you decide!
Morgellons Disease...(whats really in chemtrails)
UFO's around chemtrail? plane
Chemtrails over Washington DC?
Psychic intuitive ( Douglas James Cottrell ) examines chemtrails
Chemtrail Xs over Bonnaroo
Chemtrail Debunk of an Idiot
Evidence for chemtrails? You decide
Chemtrails, keeping you in line.
Stanford Environmental Law Dissertation points to Chemtrails/Geoengineering
Monsanto....disease's....chemtrails to reduce economic burden of unproductive workers
quick chemtrails question?
UFO captured on camera in a cross formation Con/chemtrail.
Chemtrail Thread: How common are contrails?
Chemtrail weapon, the firsts ?
Chemtrails: Clouds of Death
Chemtrails Creeping Into MSM...
fluoride and chemtrail connection? you tell me!
ufos studying a chemtrail
Chemtrails Comercial, Sick stuff.
THE CHEMTRAIL RAIN - Biological warfare tested against a small US town
A chemtrail being sprayed by a curious circular aircraft. Colorado, 2008
12.160 Member 'Luggnutz' (aka Brian) talks about CHEMTRAILS on the Derry Brownfield Show
German Army Caught Spraying Chemtrails.



posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 12:54 AM
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Chemtrails being sprayed by a circular craft
Strange clouds, a rainbow and chemtrails
Chemtrails Photo and Research Thread!!!!
Chemtrails and sodium fluoride.
Chemtrails and Weather Warfare Validated by History Channel
Chemtrails being produced through nozzle at aft of jet engine?
Chemtrails: Document signed by Canada and USA about Weather Mod.
Former Belgian Mayor Crusades Against Chemtrails
Chemtrails Photo and Research Thread Part 2
BBC Exposes Government *Video* Chemtrail Experiments
Are meteorologists lying about Chemtrails?
Our air is poisoned, Time to demand a government statement on chemtrails!
Chemtrailes don't exist
Chemtrail Debunkers are Losing.
the Freeman Perspective:Chemtrails, dying trees and birds.
Contrail/ Chemtrail Research Thread
I have not seen a Chemtrail for weeks now - Sky is getting deeper blue once more
One of these days, chemtrails, 9/11 truths will show !
A few questions for Chemtrailers
Who turned off the Chemtrails?
Chemtrail activity non-existent in Upstate New York...
DARK chemtrails now????
Admission of a new Chemtrail project by NASA.
Does Aerosol Forcing = Chemtrails?
NAVY and NASA - The REAL "Chemtrails"
Chemtrails. Why is the movie Toxic Sky BANNED in the USA ?
Chemtrail Pilots Take Weekends OFF
The smoking gun - there are LESS chemtrails in cold winter!
Have you seen any chemtrails lately?
16000 dead birds in Idaho, 20000 in Utah, Chemtrail canary in the coal mine?
Secret Aviation+Geo-engineering. Mil+Civ. Chemtrails. Hidden weather control+aviation history?
Chemtrails Are "Small Reflecting Particles" In The Upper Atmosphere.
CHEMTRAILS viewed using Infrared.
Could chemtrails be wrong?
Chemtrails not adding up, illuminati and weather control is an outrage.
Chemtrails over Norway again......
Anyone document March 31st Chemtrail over Sydney?
Metallica's new Music video now with, Zombies, Chemtrails, and Conspiracys
Chemtrail Pilots ?
Hollywood Does Chemtrails (movie) Starring Anne Heche
unknown aerial phenomena and chemtrails in sky
My Concerns Reguarding Chemtrails (ie. Weather Modification Programs).
Chemtrails above Germany!
Chemtrails Proof On National News!
ChemTrails In Oswego, NY
Reduction in Chemtrails
Saint Cheetah's theory on chemtrails
The Ultimate CHEMTRUTH: Chemtrails, Morgellons Disease
Very weird phenomenon!!! (chemtrails??)
Question about Chemtrails
Contrail/Chemtrail Observation That Needs An Answer
The UK Ministry of Defense replies on the subject of chemtrails....
ATTENTION EVERYONE: Swine Flu being spread by chemtrails.
Chemtrails (Contrails) reason for swine flu?
MSM Vid (WMD, Flu's, ChemTrails,Gov Exp,Baxter)
No Chemtrails in London since 2 weeks before Swine Flu..?
Chemtrails Tampere Finland. Confirm please. (pics)
Chemtrail believers, I challenge you to debunk contrail science
Possible Chemtrails Watertown, NY PICS
Chemtrails over Singapore?
FAA Confirms Chemtrails
Chemtrails and Black Helicopters over Colorado May 12 2009
Chemtrails and the connection to Alzheimers Disease
Prince discusses chemtrails and Obama...
Chemtrails, Carbon Tax, and Sickness
Witnessed a Chemtrail in the Making today...



posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 07:48 AM
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Chadwickus thank you!!

I don't think I've seen something so beautiful before in my life.


Yes chemtrails are very real people, they behave completely differently from contrails.

And thank you Northwarden for your very informative posts.



posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 08:19 AM
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I agree, the article is a bit of nonsense! However, did anyone bother to catch the first comment? It states, accurately I might add:


According to Victoria Hardy of The American Chronicle, Dr. Stephen D. McKay, who has studied chemtrails for over six years, believes there are four ongoing projects in our atmosphere, "The first project is an effort to block the rays of the sun from hitting the earth including the ultra violet radiation that will come through without an adequate layer of ozone in the upper regions above the earth. This, it is hoped, will lower temperature on the surface of the earth and block ultra violet radiation from causing skin cancer in humans. The aerosol is probably aluminum oxide or a compound that would have similar properties."

"The second and most secretive project is the United States Navy's, RFMP, Radio Frequency Mission Planner, military program. The RFMP is the system name given to a group of computer programs and one of the supporting, subprograms within the RFMP system is called the VTRPE computer program. VTRPE is an acronym that stands for Variable Terrain Radio Parabolic Equation, It is a computer Radio Frequency propagation program that deals with radio waves and enables the RFMP system to visually see the battlefield terrain in 3 dimensions (3-D) on a television screen. The RFMP system also depends on satellites to feed their images of the battlefield into the RFMP system to be combined with the battlefield picture painted from the ground thus producing 3-D images."

"By providing an extremely interactive and visual (television type radar screens) environment, the Radio Frequency Mission Planner, RFMP system allows the computer operator to develop familiarity with the 'Radio Frequency' environment before a battlefield war mission occurs by playing a variety of 'what-if' virtual warfare scenarios on his computer screen. Since all major modes of Radio Frequency propagation are modeled in his computer, (RFMP system), special, sometimes counter- intuitive, cases can be examined in detail and exploited during a warfare battle mission."

"The VTRPE computer program only worked accurately over water and along coastal areas but not over land masses because the system's radar waves required an atmospheric condition known as 'ducting', over land, to operate accurately."

"The government and military solved the 'ducting' problem by releasing an aerosol, a mixture of barium salts into the atmosphere over America. They made an atmospheric RF duct with a base of barium aerosol from aircraft. The chemical and electrical characteristics of the mixture will cause water moisture to stay in clouds. Again, the aerosol sets up an electrical and chemical environment that supports RF ducting for the RFMP / VTRPE warfare system. Fibers with barium may support ducting. The mixture of barium salt aerosol when sprayed in a straight line will also provide a ducting path from point A to point B and will enable high frequency communications along that path, even over the curvature of the earth, in both directions. Enemy high frequency communications can be monitored easier with the straight line A to B ducting medium."

"The third project also utilizes the mixture of barium salts in the atmosphere. Weather control is a project of the U.S. Air Force and utilizes Nikola Tesla concepts of radio frequency radiation (HAARP) against the ionosphere above the earth. Fragile life support systems in our environment are being manipulated, tested and altered by government for military advantage. Air Force documents implied, 'the risks are high but the rewards are worth it.' The mixture of barium salts, supporting moisture, is encouraged along the weather fronts and manipulated in a control fashion. It is believed microwave energy is also utilized in the weather control program. Weather data is also a required input to the VTRPE program of the RFMP system. Perfected weather control technology will enable a military to withhold rain, cause floods, cause drought, cause storms, withhold sunshine, damage food crops, and bring any country to its knees without firing a shot."

"The fourth project in the atmosphere is the DARPA, Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, biological detection and decontamination programs. The program also utilizes the mixture of barium salts as the base vehicle in aerosol along with special polymer fibers in the atmosphere. They have released biological into the atmosphere in trials, testing the detection and decontamination systems."

"It is believed that barium salt, polymer fibers and other chemicals, in the atmosphere are the physical irritants that are either directly or indirectly responsible, for the recent epidemic increase in cases of nose bleed, asthma, allergies, pneumonia, upper respiratory symptoms and a noticeable increase in arthritis symptoms, recently reported nationwide. Chemicals illegally sprayed into the atmosphere are producing atmospheric and ground conditions detrimental to human and animal health but favorable to the growth of harmful molds and fungus. These conditions are not conducive to good health. The soluble salts of barium, an earth metal, are toxic in mammalian systems. They are absorbed rapidly from the gastrointestinal tract and are deposited in the muscles, lungs, and bone. No case data is available from the medical community on the long term effects of barium in the human body."



posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 09:41 AM
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Originally posted by Mikemp44

Yes chemtrails are very real people, they behave completely differently from contrails.


Which highlights the problem, since everything claimed to be a chemtrail behaves exactly the same as contrails have been doing for the past 80 years



However there are those who believe the government puts chemicals in the water supply and that's why you sometimes see a rainbow in a garden sprinkler. And it doesn't matter what you tell these folk they will not, ever, accept that they might be wrong. So, I guess we s'n-word' quietly to ourselves, maybe feel a little sorry for them, and then just walk away. What else can we do?



posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 09:45 AM
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Originally posted by Mikemp44
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No they ARE chemtrails, contrails are much higher up as the water crystals must be present to form contrails from jet exhaust. It explains the difference between the two in the beginning of the article.


Thats incorrect

If the temperature is cold enough, contrails will form with no humidity. Refer to the appleman chart (the forecasting tool we use to forecast for contrails, link below), as this shows exactly when, and where, contrails will form and persist.

asd-www.larc.nasa.gov...



posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 09:49 AM
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Originally posted by Mikemp44
reply to post by Chadwickus
 

Yes chemtrails are very real people, they behave completely differently from contrails.



Do you have any basic training or experience in basic meteorology?

I know I do...in fact, want to take a guess at what I do as a proffesion?


Just saying this because no chemtrailer has yet to disprove the meteorology behind contrail formation. They also havent explained why alleged chemicals, are not affected by the vast variations of wind speed, direction and the high speed winds in the jestream (sometimes winds in excess of 200 knots)



posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 10:02 AM
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Originally posted by OzWeatherman

Originally posted by Mikemp44
reply to post by Essan
 


No they ARE chemtrails, contrails are much higher up as the water crystals must be present to form contrails from jet exhaust. It explains the difference between the two in the beginning of the article.


Thats incorrect

If the temperature is cold enough, contrails will form with no humidity. Refer to the appleman chart (the forecasting tool we use to forecast for contrails, link below), as this shows exactly when, and where, contrails will form and persist.

asd-www.larc.nasa.gov...


Nice science. The chart says, below a certain temperature, contrails always form. But...



when contrails were forecast to occur, the forecast was correct only 25 to 35 percent of the time, and often failed to predict the occurrence of contrails

asd-www.larc.nasa.gov...

This suggests that contrails are actually very rare, as the conditions have to be just right.

How do you explain contrails everyday, day after day. 10, 20 contrails in the sky at the same time, and magically expanding to cover the sky in a disgusting gray haze?



posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 10:04 AM
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You yawn, but you've put your post in just about every one of those threads you listed. Who has the agenda here?



posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 10:12 AM
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So, I guess we s'n-word' quietly to ourselves, maybe feel a little sorry for them, and then just walk away. What else can we do?


What a 'n-word'dly system to ban the word s'n-word'. It's like chuckle filed a complaint and had synonyms banned for copyright infringements



posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 10:13 AM
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Thats statement refers to clear sky conditions, prior to any observed contrail. When you have numerous planes flying at around the same flight pattern, producing contrails, you have excess moisture added into the environment. In other words, numerous planes have the ability to saturate the environment.

Using weather balloon data, coinciding with contrail (or chemtrail depending on your point of view), observations from ATS staff, I undertook a research thread. Everytime a contrail was observed, weather balloon data pointed to contrail development being highly likely.

You also have to take into account the variability of the weather at upper air levels. Ever wondered why your local meteorologist gets the weather wrong sometimes? Or ever wonder why forecasts are done at least 4 or 5 times a day at 4 or 6 hourly intervals? Its due to the variance and rapid changes (some more subtle than others) at upper air levels.

As far as I know, most contrail forecasts arent available to the public, as importance is low. Most are done through military forecasters or civilians forecasting for military, and/or climate scientists investigating the affect that contrails have on diurnal temperature variances at ground level. Not sure where you got that figure from, but I have heard it before. Might bump my thread to see if some observations can be continued


BTW, thanks for foeing me.....I love it when people do that

[edit on 30/4/2010 by OzWeatherman]



posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 10:23 AM
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Thats statement refers to clear sky conditions, prior to any observed contrail. When you have numerous planes flying at around the same flight pattern, producing contrails, you have excess moisture added into the environment. In other words, numerous planes have the ability to saturate the environment.


Please, point me to where in the link it says that. Or is this just your interjection? And if so, what do you base your logic on?

You are suggesting that aircraft inject water into the air. But the truth is, water is drawn to the contrail (chemtrail). This suggest excessive particulate matter in the exhaust.

This is backed up by countless NASA missions like SOAR and CIRRUS and CONTRAIL and on and on studying contrails, and the particulate matter in them. You can't find out what the particulate matter consists of, but it is in the 2.5 nm size. Smaller than dust basically.

Add that with the rainbow sheen being seen in the sky, increased respiratory cases, increased cloud cover (blue skies when planes are grounded), the chemicals (additives) in fuel, people getting sick on aircraft, and on and on, and you sit there and pretend nothing is happening.




posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 10:29 AM
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Where I live I see chem trails everyday, becomes increasingly hard to refute although half of the people I know swear it's a "lie" or dare I say it
"conspiracy theory ". Ask them about 20 degree weather in may.



posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 10:34 AM
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Originally posted by 911stinks
Please, point me to where in the link it says that. Or is this just your interjection? And if so, what do you base your logic on?


Its an assumption, but I guess it depends on the country you live in, and density of air travel.



You are suggesting that aircraft inject water into the air. But the truth is, water is drawn to the contrail (chemtrail). This suggest excessive particulate matter in the exhaust.


They do, the main product of hydrocarbon combustion is water and particulate matter. Like cloud seeding particulates, stimulate the growth of ice. With extra water from the burning of fuel, this also increases the size of the ice crystals



Add that with the rainbow sheen being seen in the sky,


Ever heard of iridescence, irisation, or know of all halo phenomenen?

www.atoptics.co.uk...

www.atoptics.co.uk...



increased respiratory cases,


Can be easily attributed to more pollution level



increased cloud cover (blue skies when planes are grounded),


Why do you attribute cloud cover to only planes? Do you know anything about meteorology at all?

Im not pretending nothing is happening, there's just no plausibility in what you say. You have neglected to answer my questions i posted before, just like all chemtrailers.

If I seriously thought something was amiss....I would be more inclined to investigate easier and more plausible methods of harming people, like poisoning town water supplies, or the use of pesticides at ground level



posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 10:43 AM
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They do, the main product of hydrocarbon combustion is water and particulate matter. Like cloud seeding particulates, stimulate the growth of ice. With extra water from the burning of fuel, this also increases the size of the ice crystals


What is the particulate matter? Please point me to the study that lists all the particulates.

A contrail cannot expand into a cloud without particulate expansion. Each ice crystal need a particulate to cling to.

On a clear day, this would take some type of chemical, such as silver iodide, with a 10 to the 14th power expansion rate. It possibly even suggests Self Assembling Machines, or SAMS (nanomites)



posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 11:09 AM
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Originally posted by 911stinks



when contrails were forecast to occur, the forecast was correct only 25 to 35 percent of the time, and often failed to predict the occurrence of contrails

asd-www.larc.nasa.gov...

This suggests that contrails are actually very rare, as the conditions have to be just right.

How do you explain contrails everyday, day after day. 10, 20 contrails in the sky at the same time, and magically expanding to cover the sky in a disgusting gray haze?


You missed this part of the quote

and often failed to predict the occurrence of contrails

That doesn't sound rare to me.

Your quote is talking about the use of the Appleman chart for predicting the occurrence of contrails, not how often contrails should occur. It says the chart is not entirely effective and you misunderstood the direction of the inaccuracy. Here is what is says after the part you selected.


Thus, the Appleman chart tends to underpredict the occurrence of contrails and to overpredict the non-occurrence of contrails.


It says the chart underpredicts the occurrence of contrails. They happen more often than the chart predicts. It says the chart overpredicts the non-occurrence. They happen even when the chart says they won't. Contrails happen more often than the chart predicts. Not less often.

The Appleman chart is a rough guide. It is too simplistic. So...

For this reason, the USAF is actively investigating better ways to compute contrail formation.


[edit on 4/30/2010 by Phage]



posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 11:14 AM
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All I know is where I live, 150 miles south of Albuquerque as the crow files we see chem trails often, but it seems that they spread them in places that are sparely populated and as the drift with the winds they seem to gather together.

So here in Catron County New Mexico on some days they spread the chem trails and as they drift to the north east they gather into large fluffy cumulus clouds, the people north of here most likely never see a chem trail.

I believe that they do it this way so people won't notice what they are doing.

We collect rain water off the roof and have tested it and find it very pure, go figure.



posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 11:22 AM
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If particulate matter is required for the formation of ice crystals, what is the source of cirrus clouds?

Particulates are not required to trigger the formation of ice crystals in saturated air. The added moisture in the exhaust is sufficient to begin the process .

[edit on 4/30/2010 by Phage]



posted on Apr, 30 2010 @ 11:34 AM
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Okay, maybe more importantly, there is the annoying little fact that our air is being poisoned with aluminum. It must have evaporated there from the ground OZ
Even though the test spots can be miles away from cities and roadways, ie. we are finding aluminum in the snows of Scottish Mountains, what do you think is the real point to be made here. Even TEN times the TOXIC level is dangerous - let's register 375 or 6,200 times the toxic level now. In aluminum factories this can cause a condition called Chronic Flourosis, flouride being an aluminum byproduct, and that too is probably a misdenomer because it is more aptly named Chronic Aluminosis. This can be caused after ten years. Guess what, they've been spraying for ten years and people are developing problems. Ya, let's blame smoking lol lol

Some of this is from factories and car pollution, and car makers expect us to be so so happy they are switching over to electric NOW when the problem has been known about for three decades, and the first non-polluting engines were invented, then stomped by industry, back in the 40's, 50's, and 60's. People stopped trying because it was criminal to the industry back then. Now, look back at that 1976 aluminum soap jet fuel mist patent. The patent ran out in '93, meaning it was fair game afterwards.

Do you ever get the feeling you're really arguing against your own health, and those you care about, by continuing to Deny the obvious about government programs to spray, or the geo-engineering programs which they are undertaking, or the military spray programs which will not be public knowledge in any event? How about the thousands of aeresol spray crimes which have been documented?

How about the possibility of eugenics being real? To eliminate 5.5 - 6 billion people. Have you seen the deliberate degredation of society from a few angles now? It should be enough to wake anyone up, but, looks like professional disinfo is alive and well. Either that or Alzheimer's from aluminum poisoning has already set in the minds of a few.



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