I don´t know if this thread should go into General Conspiracy, Skunk works or even Alien thread groups. Mods feel free to move.
Help of ATS members skilled in relative and quantum physics but mainly advanced mathematics needed!
I ever wondered about FTL travel and physics about it, even before ATS. Never in life I would think that I would find an ancient fable and eyewitness
acount from our ancestors about an actual Hyperspace/Subspace artificial phenomena acompaniyng an Ancient Astronaut starship or finding a hole in
Einsteins´ famous equations as big as the Pacific ocean(Gut alert) or an NASA/AIRFORCE essay on trends in theoretical aero-space aeronautics with
descriptions of fantastic, unbelievable, sci-fact not -fi, forms of travel not only to oher planets but stars.
I couldn´t find the thread on ATS , therefore I am posting. Please enjoy.
(GUT alert) I heard once about an central African tribe (I think it was the Dogons) that had a legend about an "Heavenly evil" coming dows in a
"metal chariot" ......
(the Dogons have a word in their language for the "Sky" plus a word for "Heaven", like the jews, and well ... we "modern" and "alternative
knowledge" people know that by heaven they meant "SPACE")
....... that wanted to enslave them. It was very good described as it was loudly descending down to the surface and as "hell" flames were
encompasing the bottom of the "chariot" (landing and manuevering rockets). When it descended and touched down, a few moments later the "Good guys"
came and banished the evil (The Dogons main "God" was the leader of the benevolent intervention force ... "Good Guys").
The interesting fact about this is that the Benevolents, as I will call them from now, haven´t come as the malevolent ones ... quotation: ... " an
opening ("rip") in the sky opened, winds raveging towards it ("into an through it"), through which the "blackness" of "heavens" was vissible
afterwhich an another silent "silver chariot" descendeding and expeling the evil ones."
Guys, gals couldn´t this be an eyewitness account of an actual Babylon5/Frespace/Stargate type FTL star-drive.
Dogon people on Wiki
Neverthenless, for you, I do know that the Dogons don´t have a good reputation here on ATS and moreover this not my main point. Let us think in
sci-fact context and not sci-fi ... it pi..es me off that the many History Channel, Discovery etc. programmes on SETI, Däniken and Aliens always tend
to end how it is sad, difficult, or even impossible for the Aliens to come here to Earth qutation: " ... THEY SIMPLY CANNOT EXCEED THE SPEED OF
LIGHT"(I am not the one who is shouting, that "reputable" moron was it). Come on people, we know two things definately about the Existence (I said
Existance, because we don´t know if the Multi-Verse theory has some value, which I think has, but I am tolerant) ... thats that we know absolutely
bullocks about it and that it has a bad habit of kicking our theories on it and our "reputable" (
I would say worse things like deceitful,
corruptible, ignorant, deaf, defeatist and even in someplaces fanatic) scietists into their waxy groins to Mars and beyond.
For example I will show you a scientific disputation that I had with a very inteligent person, which gave me a new meaning for the phrase "turning
(snippet from a FanFiction.com Forum on Stargate: Return of the Ancients FanFic)
Me and the Author:
Subject: Stargate: Return of the Ancients,Episode 14 Episode, "Multiplication", Absolute Acceleration Limit.
Durabys, Mar 20th, 2:48pm
The discussion between McKay and Stevenson, simply put ... I am flabergasted ... less than McKay but , yeah ... could you elaborate on it ... please
... if you changed the laws of physics for the SG universe and how you did it or if you found a hole of the size of the Pacific in E=m*c^2 or if you
see another interpretation of that law. Thanks.
Aer-ki Jyr, Mar 22nd, 2:56pm
The answer is both...Stargate has many instances that defy the theory of relativity and the theory itself is bogus.
For example, the Tria and how that was explained. If Einstein was right, the crew would have been 'slowed down' and unable to respond in real
Another is the laser the Tolin use for communications. The implications of the episode hint at a complete lack of understanding of science on the part
of Earth, including Relativity.
Also, when the gate is connected to the wormhole, the time dilation is in advance of the gravity, which relativity states must be connected, one for
On the real side, the theory is bogus based on simple logic: a relative measurement cannot have an absolute limit.
Thus, speed being a relative measurement, there cannot be a lightspeed limit. Elementary science.
Plus, if speed is a relative measurement, you can't base time dilation off of it. If an object is moving .5 lightspeed from one perspective and 0mph
from another, does time dilation occur or not? See, it requires an absolute measurement...speed is relative, therefore they can't be
Personally, I think the math of relativity appears to be correct because the nature of light is a pattern. Blue light can look to be red light if it
is slowed. If you don't know it's been slowed, it seems light blue light traveling at light speed. Thus, from a certain point of view, light will
always appear to intercept the target at light speed. The individual particles of light might be going faster or slower, but the eye only measures the
gap between the particles, otherwise known as the wavelength.
So, a burst of radio waves from a galaxy moving towards us might appear as gamma rays to our eyes/photo receptors. It's RELATIVE because our eyes
don't measure speed, they measure gap, and gap is relative to the movement of the target compared to the source.
Ignore the supposed 'proof' of relativity. Until we get into space there can't be a valid test without sufficient straightline speeds. And if you
take a very close look at the 'tests' you'll find flaws. Right now Einstein is being held up as a scientific God and protected as one.
The theory of relativity is wrong, a good try on Einstein's part, but still wrong...in both reality and stargate.
End of Part 1.
TO BE CONTINUED, please don´t post, yet.
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