Man 'hasn't eaten, drunk in 70 years'

Originally posted by mryanbrown

He drinks sun water and stares at the sun.

Excuse me for being ignorant on this but I am certainly curious now.

What is sun water?

reply to post by speculativeoptimist

He gets his energy from the Universe through meditation. They believe this are the times were this knowledge needs to be passed down to humanity. He is an enlightened being much like "Jesus" and "Buddha" were.




[edit on 8-7-2010 by dn4cer2000]

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You know sun tea? Tea that you let sit in a jar in the sun all day. Same thing just water sans tea.

The premise is that water contained within a clear glass allows the highest spectrum of light to permeate the water, thus supplying the atoms of the water with cosmic radiation.

Like a pure energy supplement + water.

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You dont know what sun water is?? Duh... Its right down the isle from wacky waffers and crazy crackers! I like my sun water with a loonie lime and dilusional danish..

I thought this was busted on TV weeks ago, when they put him under watch. He was hiding goldfish crackers in his hoonanner, no?

My veiw is neutral.
There is not conclusive evidence it is true and there is not conclusive evidence it is false.
We just simply need to know more to understand the truth.

Peoples reasons stated so far don't prove it false. They are mere guesse's on what seems most probable.
So don't get truth confused with gambling. when u gamble on pokies u r unlikely to get the 1 mill but theres a small chance, so that dosn't make it fact that u r going to loose.
An exampel of some of the reasons are
1.) it is impossible.
Thats an opinion not conclusive evidence. Many times throughout history what seems rediculous or impossible has been proven possible, it comes from lack of understanding, so a nuetral stance should be made, which says although its unlikely and sounds ludicrous, he might know something that i don't and thats hard for alot of peopel to accept.
2.)Its a scam to make money.
again thats a guess, or an asummtion or pure speculation.
3.)Locals say hes a hoax.
People on these very forums r saying hes a hoax without evidence, of course locals will do the same.

I'm personally 50/50 on this issue. I need more inforamtion thsoe peopel shoudl have kept him for more than 10 days n done more research to cut it that short was jsut rediculous, there is a chance for so many possibilities that coudl come from this. If they did this there wouldnt be people arguing over this topic.
From my experience.
Monks can also die n lie in a state where the body is frozen and is in a state where the heart ect. stops working and dosnt need stuff to live and then can bring them selves back to life, some scientists also filmed that budda boy who claimed to have gone without food n water for 10 months for days and he didnt move without food or water, he was still out there on freezing cold days apearing tottaly fine when everyone else was shivering under blankets, a high monk went to have a meditation off with him and the budda boy made his body sweat even tho it was a cold day . There have also been studies done on monks who can control there body temperature, sitting out on freezing days with stem rising off there body. SO open ur minds mab take a few hits of '___' and watch reality completly rip at the seams and melt before ur very eyes.

Originally posted by muhsroomevolution
I need more inforamtion thsoe peopel shoudl have kept him for more than 10 days n done more research to cut it that short was jsut rediculous, there is a chance for so many possibilities that coudl come from this. If they did this there wouldnt be people arguing over this topic.

Actually this test went for 15 days. The ten day test happened back in 2003. More tests are being planned for the near future.

Originally posted by someotherguy
I've heard about another person in India who did this and a nun in Germany, I think, who could live without food or water. It should be technically possible to absorb the energy from the surroundings rather than second-hand through food. Maybe the rest of us are just "blocked."

The problem with this, is that humans require more than just energy to live, grow, and repair ourselves.

While energy is all around us, and even though I don't see any proof I'm not disputing it may be possible to somehow absorb energy from your surroundings, but you can't absorb fat, muscle, and bone from your surroundings, because it isn't there. You must get this from food.

Originally posted by polarwarrior
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Edit to add; What really amazes me about this story is the fact someone as spiritually adept as he would ever attempt proof, shoudnt he be hiding his ability so as not to violate our free will by forcing us to believe. Perhaps he feels the ability to stop some hunger deaths outweighs the price he will have to pay for attempting proof. Either way he probably knows what hes doing, wouldve thought it through first.

[edit on 29-4-2010 by polarwarrior]

What exactly is wrong with proving something? I don't get this mindset. Do you just accept anything anyone tells you as fact? Again I'm not going to say this is fake, because that's just it, I can't. Just in the same way nobody can outright say it's real.

If he can really do it, he can prove it. If he can't he can't. It's very simple, I don't know why there has to be something mysterious about it. I can fly to the moon and back in my jogging shorts, I've been doing this since I was a small child. But I can't show you as to protect your free will. Do you believe me?

Originally posted by James1982
What exactly is wrong with proving something? I don't get this mindset. Do you just accept anything anyone tells you as fact? Again I'm not going to say this is fake, because that's just it, I can't. Just in the same way nobody can outright say it's real.

If he can really do it, he can prove it. If he can't he can't. It's very simple, I don't know why there has to be something mysterious about it. I can fly to the moon and back in my jogging shorts, I've been doing this since I was a small child. But I can't show you as to protect your free will. Do you believe me?

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People at his level of spiritual awareness are very humble. It took years of coaxing to get him to come out of his cave and show people this ability. Benevolent people with abilities and wisdom will generally always hide that ability, especially in these times. Unfortunately the frauds are the opposite, they are usually attentions whores and will try to tell the world of their supposed "gift" or whatever for ego type reasons, this gives people a very skewed view on the reality of such abilities.

Once you are at the level of enlightenment where you develop little side effects like your body not requiring food, then you are also at the level where you understand the importance of the universal laws.

I think it would best for many people to just claim that this is a hoax and go back to their lives if they are not ready. As for proof, well...the divine doesn't really pander to an ego's demand for proof.

Originally posted by James1982
What exactly is wrong with proving something?

If its proof of something that they already know is real then that would be ok, hence the saying "first comes belief then comes proof". But if not then you have gone and destroyed their chance of finding that truth on their own, along with their test of faith. Life is about learning, the answers are not supposed to be all laid out on a platter, otherwise why wouldnt have god just told us everything already and proven it all. The incarnate mind or ego may think it wants to have everything proven so that they cannot deny and are forced to believe, but actually the soul usually wants the choice whether to believe or not, along with the chance to realize truth on its own.

Who are we to deny souls of their own journey of truth seeking?

So your saying if I truly believe I don't need food, then I won't need food? Perhaps I'm missing something here. I'm really not trying to be condescending or sarcastic or anything, I am genuinely interested on the process involved here.

Thanks!

Originally posted by polarwarrior

This reminds me of HRM who went for hundreds of days under observation, multiple times, by scientists and doctors to prove he didnt eat, but he claimed to get his energy from sungazing and did require water. But this guy doesnt need water either so it will be increadible to see what the scientists have to say, theyve already found him to have a 25 year old brain from scans which is strange enough for an 82 year old.

news.ninemsn.com.au
(visit the link for the full news article)

For some reason that second like isnt working properly so heres a thread bout the same guy from 03,
www.abovetopsecret.com...


[edit on 29-4-2010 by polarwarrior]

Maybe there is a secret. Maybe food is what kills us and sets us up with life expectancy. When you eat what is dead it becomes you.

Originally posted by James1982
So your saying if I truly believe I don't need food, then I won't need food?

Well... that's not really what I'm saying at all. I'm not sure what would happen if you truly believed you didn't need food, my guess would be that you probably wouldn't need it so long as the belief was really genuine.

I am genuinely interested on the process involved here.

Not needing food is never really the goal, most often it is just something that happens to people walking the spiritual path, something genuine aspirants would usually just ignore along with all the other strange and distracting things happening to them.
If not needing food was the goal.... then that would be counter to walking the path and so hence you would probably need food more than ever. This is because reasons for not wanting to have to eat such as maintainence of the physical body, fear of starvation, focus on physicality, ego's want to have a gift or some sort of novelty etc. etc. are all deviations from the spiritual path. If you "try" to obtain the gift of the guy in OP then you'll probably never get it, but find enlightenment and then you'll get it along with much more, unfortunately lol by that stage you'll probably also not care that you have it.

I'm probably not explaining this very well. Many sages wont really talk about things like this, because knowing how to fast for 70 years never gave anyone enlightenment. Mostly it is just an interesting sort of gimmick, a distraction to the things that are really important, so no adept teachers will really bother talking about this which is kind of why I don't have a good explanation to refer you to, and personally im not very eloquent.

Originally posted by James1982
So your saying if I truly believe I don't need food, then I won't need food? Perhaps I'm missing something here. I'm really not trying to be condescending or sarcastic or anything, I am genuinely interested on the process involved here.

If you're very active, you need a lot of food.

One way to lower (though not eliminate) food requirements is to be sedentary. I think most people can easily live 7 days without food. 10 days is a little harder, and 15 days may actually take some meditation to lower metabolism, etc, but anyone who learns to meditate in this fashion I think could survive 15 days if they are otherwise healthy.

However, it's a dangerous practice as some fasting dieters have learned the hard way. When food intake stops, the body still has to generate heat, etc from alternate sources, so it uses things like stored fat. No problem, that's what fat is there for. Unfortunately it can also break down other body tissue for energy such as muscle tissue. This is why some fasters have died from heart failure, due to the body breaking down muscle (including heart) tissue for a source of nourishment when there's no food intake.

en.wikipedia.org...

Lengthy fasting can be dangerous due to the risk of malnutrition and should be carried out under medical supervision. During prolonged fasting or very low calorie diets, the reduction of blood glucose, the preferred energy source of the brain, causes the body to deplete its glycogen stores. Once glycogen is depleted the body begins to fuel the brain using ketones, while also metabolizing body protein (including but not limited to skeletal muscle) to be used to synthesize sugars for use as energy by the rest of the body. Most experts believe that a prolonged fast can lead to muscle wasting although some dispute this.

My own thought is the amount of muscle wasting from fasting may vary from person to person depending on genes, etc. But heart problems could be a risk if the heart atrophies as a result of fasting.

Originally posted by Shadow Herder
Maybe there is a secret. Maybe food is what kills us and sets us up with life expectancy. When you eat what is dead it becomes you.

Reminds me of the saying "You are what you eat"..... I wonder if i'm "dead meat", excuse the pun.

Originally posted by polarwarriorWho are we to deny souls of their own journey of truth seeking?

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If people didn't believe then they wouldn't come across the proof.

From what I understand, the human body supposedly can't go without water for more than a few days, so if he's gone 15 then I'd say that's proof. Interesting!

IMO its just a matter of wether he actually did it or its some sort of scam.

Originally posted by Cecilofs

Originally posted by polarwarriorWho are we to deny souls of their own journey of truth seeking?

edit on 1-3-2011 by polarwarrior because: (no reason given)

If people didn't believe then they wouldn't come across the proof.

Exactly.

From what I understand, the human body supposedly can't go without water for more than a few days, so if he's gone 15 then I'd say that's proof. Interesting!

And seeing that he didn't leak any urine at all, even in the first few days then it means he can't of had a drink just prior to the test beginning. IMO this gives credence to his claims of long term fasting.

IMO its just a matter of wether he actually did it or its some sort of scam.

The option is still there for people in denial to simply write it all off as an elaborate hoax and go on with their lives undisturbed by the mystery of it all. Unfortunately for them it requires some large assumptions, like for instance that all these intelligent people were either in on it or got fooled themselves.

Dr. Sudhir Shah (Neurologist), Dr. Urman Dhruv (Physician & Endocrinologist), Dr. Himanshu Patel (Nephrologist), Dr. Navneet Shah (Physician & Endocrinologist), Dr. Sudhanshu Patwari Gastroenterologist, Dr. Nilay Mehta Gastroenterologist, Dr. Kandarp Parikh (Urologist), Dr. Hemant Patel (Radiologist), Dr. Mrugesh (Radiologist), Dr.Dinesh Patel (Radiologist), Dr. Sanjeev Patel (Radiologist), Dr. Shrenk Shah (Cardiologist), Dr. Mukesh Patel (Pulmonologist), Dr. Bansi Saboo (Physician, Endocrinologist), Dr. V.N. Shah (Physician), Dr. Amit Bhatt (Physcian, Neurologist), Dr. Raisa A. Vhora (Physician), Dr. Sanjeev Haribhakti ( Gastrosurgeon), Dr. Hitesh Chawra (Gastrosurgeon), Dr. Sanjeev Shah (Pathologist), Dr. Bipin Patel (Pathologist), Dr. Atul Patel (Infectious Disease Specialist), Dr. Sapan Pandia (Rheumatologist), Dr. Jayesh Sheth (Genetician), Dr. Ruchir Shah (ENT), Dr. Urmit Shah (Ophthalmologist), Dr. Heli Shah (Intern), Dr. Shalin Shah (Neurologist) Dr. Parag Rindani (Corporate -Medical Director), Ms. Namisha Gandhi (Revenue Assurance Head and EA of Chairperson), Mr. Dhirendra Chudasma (Corporate Head of Clinical Research), Mr. Jignesh Lakhtaria (Study Co-ordinator), Ms. Monika Rajput (Study Co-ordinator), Ms. Shreya Singh (Study Co-ordinator), Mr. Hirak Nandi (Study Nurse), Mr. Avinash (Study Nurse)

Hope this great man can help the UN to solve the the food crisis in many countries by his magic spiritual power...

www.thehindu.com...
This is one of most prestigious indian news paper.check t link

Well, if you don't eat or drink anything you don't need to pee or poop. Our bodies can recycle everything. The skin can absorb nutrients and so can the lungs. This guy would have to do almost nothing to survive though and would need to sit in the sun. seventy years though, I don't think so. Maybe he has multiple personalities and he doesn't know he ate. You would need to eat about once a month to survive.

So he has been an attention whore for 70 yrs now?

Impressive.


So when he is going to be preforming his blaine-esque stunt to prove his powah?


Oh what he's not?


Amazed.