Originally posted by mryanbrown

He drinks sun water and stares at the sun.

Excuse me for being ignorant on this but I am certainly curious now.

What is sun water?

My veiw is neutral.
There is not conclusive evidence it is true and there is not conclusive evidence it is false.
We just simply need to know more to understand the truth.

Peoples reasons stated so far don't prove it false. They are mere guesse's on what seems most probable.
So don't get truth confused with gambling. when u gamble on pokies u r unlikely to get the 1 mill but theres a small chance, so that dosn't make it fact that u r going to loose.
An exampel of some of the reasons are
1.) it is impossible.
Thats an opinion not conclusive evidence. Many times throughout history what seems rediculous or impossible has been proven possible, it comes from lack of understanding, so a nuetral stance should be made, which says although its unlikely and sounds ludicrous, he might know something that i don't and thats hard for alot of peopel to accept.
2.)Its a scam to make money.
again thats a guess, or an asummtion or pure speculation.
3.)Locals say hes a hoax.
People on these very forums r saying hes a hoax without evidence, of course locals will do the same.

I'm personally 50/50 on this issue. I need more inforamtion thsoe peopel shoudl have kept him for more than 10 days n done more research to cut it that short was jsut rediculous, there is a chance for so many possibilities that coudl come from this. If they did this there wouldnt be people arguing over this topic.
From my experience.
Monks can also die n lie in a state where the body is frozen and is in a state where the heart ect. stops working and dosnt need stuff to live and then can bring them selves back to life, some scientists also filmed that budda boy who claimed to have gone without food n water for 10 months for days and he didnt move without food or water, he was still out there on freezing cold days apearing tottaly fine when everyone else was shivering under blankets, a high monk went to have a meditation off with him and the budda boy made his body sweat even tho it was a cold day . There have also been studies done on monks who can control there body temperature, sitting out on freezing days with stem rising off there body. SO open ur minds mab take a few hits of DMT and watch reality completly rip at the seams and melt before ur very eyes.

Originally posted by muhsroomevolution
I need more inforamtion thsoe peopel shoudl have kept him for more than 10 days n done more research to cut it that short was jsut rediculous, there is a chance for so many possibilities that coudl come from this. If they did this there wouldnt be people arguing over this topic.

Actually this test went for 15 days. The ten day test happened back in 2003. More tests are being planned for the near future.

Originally posted by James1982
What exactly is wrong with proving something? I don't get this mindset. Do you just accept anything anyone tells you as fact? Again I'm not going to say this is fake, because that's just it, I can't. Just in the same way nobody can outright say it's real.

If he can really do it, he can prove it. If he can't he can't. It's very simple, I don't know why there has to be something mysterious about it. I can fly to the moon and back in my jogging shorts, I've been doing this since I was a small child. But I can't show you as to protect your free will. Do you believe me?

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People at his level of spiritual awareness are very humble. It took years of coaxing to get him to come out of his cave and show people this ability. Benevolent people with abilities and wisdom will generally always hide that ability, especially in these times. Unfortunately the frauds are the opposite, they are usually attentions whores and will try to tell the world of their supposed "gift" or whatever for ego type reasons, this gives people a very skewed view on the reality of such abilities.

Once you are at the level of enlightenment where you develop little side effects like your body not requiring food, then you are also at the level where you understand the importance of the universal laws.

I think it would best for many people to just claim that this is a hoax and go back to their lives if they are not ready. As for proof, well...the divine doesn't really pander to an ego's demand for proof.

Originally posted by James1982
What exactly is wrong with proving something?

If its proof of something that they already know is real then that would be ok, hence the saying "first comes belief then comes proof". But if not then you have gone and destroyed their chance of finding that truth on their own, along with their test of faith. Life is about learning, the answers are not supposed to be all laid out on a platter, otherwise why wouldnt have god just told us everything already and proven it all. The incarnate mind or ego may think it wants to have everything proven so that they cannot deny and are forced to believe, but actually the soul usually wants the choice whether to believe or not, along with the chance to realize truth on its own.

Who are we to deny souls of their own journey of truth seeking?

So your saying if I truly believe I don't need food, then I won't need food? Perhaps I'm missing something here. I'm really not trying to be condescending or sarcastic or anything, I am genuinely interested on the process involved here.

Thanks!

Originally posted by James1982
So your saying if I truly believe I don't need food, then I won't need food?

Well... that's not really what I'm saying at all. I'm not sure what would happen if you truly believed you didn't need food, my guess would be that you probably wouldn't need it so long as the belief was really genuine.

I am genuinely interested on the process involved here.

Not needing food is never really the goal, most often it is just something that happens to people walking the spiritual path, something genuine aspirants would usually just ignore along with all the other strange and distracting things happening to them.
If not needing food was the goal.... then that would be counter to walking the path and so hence you would probably need food more than ever. This is because reasons for not wanting to have to eat such as maintainence of the physical body, fear of starvation, focus on physicality, ego's want to have a gift or some sort of novelty etc. etc. are all deviations from the spiritual path. If you "try" to obtain the gift of the guy in OP then you'll probably never get it, but find enlightenment and then you'll get it along with much more, unfortunately lol by that stage you'll probably also not care that you have it.

I'm probably not explaining this very well. Many sages wont really talk about things like this, because knowing how to fast for 70 years never gave anyone enlightenment. Mostly it is just an interesting sort of gimmick, a distraction to the things that are really important, so no adept teachers will really bother talking about this which is kind of why I don't have a good explanation to refer you to, and personally im not very eloquent.

Originally posted by Shadow Herder
Maybe there is a secret. Maybe food is what kills us and sets us up with life expectancy. When you eat what is dead it becomes you.

Reminds me of the saying "You are what you eat"..... I wonder if i'm "dead meat", excuse the pun.

Originally posted by polarwarriorWho are we to deny souls of their own journey of truth seeking?

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If people didn't believe then they wouldn't come across the proof.

From what I understand, the human body supposedly can't go without water for more than a few days, so if he's gone 15 then I'd say that's proof. Interesting!

IMO its just a matter of wether he actually did it or its some sort of scam.

Originally posted by Cecilofs

Originally posted by polarwarriorWho are we to deny souls of their own journey of truth seeking?

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If people didn't believe then they wouldn't come across the proof.

Exactly.

From what I understand, the human body supposedly can't go without water for more than a few days, so if he's gone 15 then I'd say that's proof. Interesting!

And seeing that he didn't leak any urine at all, even in the first few days then it means he can't of had a drink just prior to the test beginning. IMO this gives credence to his claims of long term fasting.

IMO its just a matter of wether he actually did it or its some sort of scam.

The option is still there for people in denial to simply write it all off as an elaborate hoax and go on with their lives undisturbed by the mystery of it all. Unfortunately for them it requires some large assumptions, like for instance that all these intelligent people were either in on it or got fooled themselves.

Dr. Sudhir Shah (Neurologist), Dr. Urman Dhruv (Physician & Endocrinologist), Dr. Himanshu Patel (Nephrologist), Dr. Navneet Shah (Physician & Endocrinologist), Dr. Sudhanshu Patwari Gastroenterologist, Dr. Nilay Mehta Gastroenterologist, Dr. Kandarp Parikh (Urologist), Dr. Hemant Patel (Radiologist), Dr. Mrugesh (Radiologist), Dr.Dinesh Patel (Radiologist), Dr. Sanjeev Patel (Radiologist), Dr. Shrenk Shah (Cardiologist), Dr. Mukesh Patel (Pulmonologist), Dr. Bansi Saboo (Physician, Endocrinologist), Dr. V.N. Shah (Physician), Dr. Amit Bhatt (Physcian, Neurologist), Dr. Raisa A. Vhora (Physician), Dr. Sanjeev Haribhakti ( Gastrosurgeon), Dr. Hitesh Chawra (Gastrosurgeon), Dr. Sanjeev Shah (Pathologist), Dr. Bipin Patel (Pathologist), Dr. Atul Patel (Infectious Disease Specialist), Dr. Sapan Pandia (Rheumatologist), Dr. Jayesh Sheth (Genetician), Dr. Ruchir Shah (ENT), Dr. Urmit Shah (Ophthalmologist), Dr. Heli Shah (Intern), Dr. Shalin Shah (Neurologist) Dr. Parag Rindani (Corporate -Medical Director), Ms. Namisha Gandhi (Revenue Assurance Head and EA of Chairperson), Mr. Dhirendra Chudasma (Corporate Head of Clinical Research), Mr. Jignesh Lakhtaria (Study Co-ordinator), Ms. Monika Rajput (Study Co-ordinator), Ms. Shreya Singh (Study Co-ordinator), Mr. Hirak Nandi (Study Nurse), Mr. Avinash (Study Nurse)

Hope this great man can help the UN to solve the the food crisis in many countries by his magic spiritual power...