Man 'hasn't eaten, drunk in 70 years'

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posted on May, 17 2010 @ 05:10 AM
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Arbitrageur.....

I found a recent picture of him.

Apparently there were some complications.



Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not




posted on May, 17 2010 @ 05:23 AM
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Originally posted by Maybe...maybe not
I found a recent picture of him.
Apparently there were some complications.

www.telegraph.co.uk...

Doctors will continue observing him for 15 days in which time they would expect to see some muscle wastage, serious dehydration,


Well I expected serious dehydration to look bad, but that looks even worse than I thought!


I guess I may have misread the article in the OP, it said he's been there for 6 days and "Doctors will continue observing him for 15 days" which I added up to 21 days. But perhaps their original intent was to only observe him for a total of 15 days, now that I re-read it and try to interpret it differently.

What a gyp. 15 days really doesn't tell us much.



posted on May, 17 2010 @ 05:49 AM
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Arbitrageur…..

As per my post very early in this thread:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

If the Dr confirms any of these claims, he will only do that to get attention & publicity.

The Dr in question is Dr. William Selvamurthy



en.wikipedia.org...



posted on May, 17 2010 @ 09:37 AM
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I don't see you issue with the Wikipedia page which has been produced by the somebody for the doctor. The problem with with Wikipedia as a whole is that it is there for anybody with internet access to add, subtract or edit web pages. The page states that he is published and is the head in his particular field. My suggestion to you is to highlight the page for deletion if you feel that his status doesn't merit inclusion on the site.

I for one hope the story has some basis in truth, and although I see the potential pitfalls of putting much stall in this case yet, I am sure that science will be able to prove or disprove this Holy Man due to the media stir that is starting to gather around him.



posted on May, 17 2010 @ 12:39 PM
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Originally posted by Extreme Pilgrim
I am sure that science will be able to prove or disprove this Holy Man due to the media stir that is starting to gather around him.


They could resolve this question if they chose to. However their decision to end the experiment after 15 days shows me they don't really want to know the answer. At the end of 30 days, if he was really deprived of water for that long, we would have a truly spectacular feat. But 15 days isn't all that impressive, I suspect I might be able to survive for that long without water if the temperature was cool enough, though I'm not sure. I doubt I could survive more than 20 days though, and I seriously doubt anyone can survive 30 days with no water unless they are in some bizarre state like hibernation or hypothermia, or perhaps breathing air with 100% humidity and absorbing moisture directly from their lungs.

And while it might be possible to inhale water vapor from humid air, there's no way I know of to obtain caloric intake from the air so they'd have to run the test for something like 4 months to see if he could really survive without eating.

Then again if the doctor tried to conduct the experiment for 30 days and the "patient" died while in the doctor's care, I supposed the doctor could lose his license for malpractice so perhaps that's why it was limited to 15 days? It just seems so useless to conduct a test for 15 days when that doesn't tell us much in a case like this.


Originally posted by Maybe...maybe not
If the Dr confirms any of these claims, he will only do that to get attention & publicity.


Maybe, maybe not, maybe...maybe not, but I fail to see how a 15 day experiment is long enough to confirm any of these claims.



posted on May, 17 2010 @ 01:20 PM
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I am not a doctor and do know what the project timelines are from final ingestion to death but I am sure that 14 days exceeds the limit for water absorption by at least 7 days. With regards to liability, surely a letter of dispensation must have be drawn up prior to the experiment taking place, especially with a guy of his, apparent age. I hope that this story doesn't just fade into the ether, as if there is even any evidence, it should be researched thoroughly.



posted on May, 17 2010 @ 01:45 PM
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Man 'hasn't eaten, drunk in 70 years' ??

It takes him that long?

When I haven't eaten, I'm usually drunk in 10 minutes.



posted on May, 17 2010 @ 05:48 PM
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Originally posted by Arbitrageur

-- But 15 days isn't all that impressive, I suspect I might be able to survive for that long without water if the temperature was cool enough, though I'm not sure. I doubt I could survive more than 20 days though, and I seriously doubt anyone can survive 30 days with no water unless they are in some bizarre state like hibernation or hypothermia, or perhaps breathing air with 100% humidity and absorbing moisture directly from their lungs.

And while it might be possible to inhale water vapor from humid air, there's no way I know of to obtain caloric intake from the air so they'd have to run the test for something like 4 months to see if he could really survive without eating. --


I sincerely doubt you would (or anyone else, for that matter, freaks of nature excluded) survive for 15 days without water. Just try being without water for one single day, heck if you manage 3 I'll be impressed. Then try five times that duration.
It's just not feasible to survive without our single most important factor of life for that amount of time.



posted on May, 17 2010 @ 06:00 PM
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How Long Can a Human Survive Without Food or Water?

According to this article, you are not likely to last in excess of 3 days, so those who are willing to follow suit should do so with due care, attention and completed will.



posted on May, 18 2010 @ 05:24 AM
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Arbitrageur.....

In think the problem here is that you're trying to be fair & reasonable & logical.....

.....but that doesn't really work when considering the activities of complete hoaxers.

Cheers mate
Maybe...maybe not



posted on May, 18 2010 @ 07:33 AM
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Yes there are hoaxer aplenty, but that doesn't warrant outright dismissal. I, for one, would be interested to see the excuses for halting the testing process and also to see weather a more independent medical body would be allowed to look into this.



posted on May, 19 2010 @ 07:53 AM
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Originally posted by Extreme Pilgrim
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Yes there are hoaxer aplenty, but that doesn't warrant outright dismissal. I, for one, would be interested to see the excuses for halting the testing process and also to see weather a more independent medical body would be allowed to look into this.


Extreme Pilgrim.....

I agree to the extent that as per my early posts in this thread.....

I would begin to take notice if the subject was examined by a prestigious medical institution that specialised in this area of medicine & the results were published for scrutiny in a peer reviewed journal.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not



posted on May, 20 2010 @ 07:54 AM
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I've been following the thread to page 12 and got tired of reading the same old tired 'show me the peer reviewed literature' song.

I'm a bit puzzled why intelligent and rational individuals insist that nothing is real if it hasn't been 'scientifically studied by a prestigious institute and peer reviewed'?

Perhaps they are just saying 'I don't believe' as an opinion, although I'm sure I read a lot of posts proclaiming the idea of living without food and water as 'impossible' as if it were the truth.

Anyhow, I'm not saying I believe or disbelieve. Personally I'd rather suspend disbelief and keep an open mind on the stuff we have very little experience with in mainstream culture.

So my best mate, whose integrity I trust implicitly, recently met a young lady who claims to have gone 9 months without food or water (after 6 years preparation), and is preparing to return to that lifestyle.

Yes, he could be being a little naieve, but he's convinced she's genuine.

I've asked him to register with ATS and give second hand feedback in this thread and perhaps ask the lady in question to comment, rather than my 3rd hand testimony, however, after seeing the treatment Drew Hempel has received after generously sharing his own experiences, I'm considering suggesting he doesn't bother.

For someone who's done the work on themselves to get anywhere near that level of development, I can't see why they'd want to subject themselves to blind rebuttal and moronic calls of 'show us the peer reviewed paper on your personal experience'.

I am very surprised Drew hangs around for so long.



posted on Jun, 2 2010 @ 12:07 AM
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Umm....so whatever became of this? I haven't heard anything other than the initial "we're going to test observe for 15 days"


ETA: Decided to look the guy up and found this article from today. It states he GARGLED WATER and took baths, but "didn't drink anything". I'm pretty sure he ingested SOME amount of water. Had to.

abcnews.go.com...

[edit on 2-6-2010 by tsi1991awd]



posted on Jun, 2 2010 @ 02:24 AM
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Results were posted on page 18



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 12:28 PM
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You can't convince me that he doesn't eat anything.
Look at the size of his fork!!!!



He is probably getting his hydro needs satisfied by swallowing some water while bathes and gargles.



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 12:41 PM
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Originally posted by Maybe...maybe not
On the other hand.....



".....he has also been dismissed by others as a "village fraud."



www.telegraph.co.uk...


Exactly......he's a fraud.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not


What if the village are religious extremists or something or are just idiots ?

then what do we make of their accusations ?

we don't know this yet.



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 01:04 PM
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I read a similar story not too long back about a man of similar ethnicity and age. Who doesn't eat.

He drinks sun water and stares at the sun.

I'm starting to wonder, especially with all this new talk about the universe essentially being a holographic projection.

That is to say that all matter is energy condensed. And as such, matter is free to move about as it is not actually physical. Just energy observed in a relative table as being physical.

Then really a single atom contains more than enough thermo energy to sustain our bodies for eons. I believe we all have this potential.

We must simply accept the reality of it, and learn to harness it. Which I think we will only come to know when we are ready.

Whether you believe it's mentally ready, or spiritually ready. Perhaps both.



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 02:24 PM
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Everyone has missed that there are people similar to this around us all the time.

They are the fat people that manage to put on weight despite only 'eating salad'



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 08:02 PM
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Unless your diet is extremely limited to what you can eat, why would anyone choose willingly not to eat or drink, especially for that long? That is part of the pleasure of living.





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