Man 'hasn't eaten, drunk in 70 years', page 2

reply to post by Bspiracy

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Agreed ... 6 days without water is a long bloody time ... there would definitely be some dehydration in an average person.

A human being can survive an average of three to five days without the intake of water, assuming sea-level altitude, room temperature and favorable relative humidity.

This chart is more comprehensive
www.survivaltopics.com...

If this article is accurate, then 6 days without water without any dehydration, by itself is amazing

Originally posted by Bspiracy
reply to post by Maybe...maybe not

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If he's a fraud then fine, but the link you have in your post is actually saying that after six days of observation without food or drink he showed no signs of degeneration.
I'm not understanding.. has something been discovered I'm not catching?
b

Bspiracy.....

It's simple......

I don't believe what's written in the article.

It's a hoax.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

Looks like he has done this before

In November 2003, after over a year of coaxing, Prahlad Jani was finally persuaded to participate in a scientific research study. A medical research team of twenty-one specialists, headed by Dr. Sudhir V. Shah, had Mr. Jani under twenty-four hours of observation for ten days at the Sterling Hospital in Ahmedabad. The team's research expertise included cardiology, neurology, urology, gastroenterology, ophthalmology, renal function, pulmonary function, ENT analysis, psychiatry, general medicine, and other specialities. A series of investigations were done on Mr. Jani in each of these areas according to a pre-determined protocol, and additional tests were carried out as per suggestions of the team. At the conclusion of their intensive investigations the team's doctors were left with an unexplained mystery, unable to disprove Mr. Jani's claims.

So he was coaxed into it which suggests he may have been conscerned about disturbing non believers and gave it at least a year of thought.

BBC artice about the 2003 event
news.bbc.co.uk...

Prahlad Jani, a holy man, or fakir, who is over 70 years old, has just spent 10 days under constant observation in Sterling Hospital, in the western Indian city of Ahmedabad.

During that time, he did not consume anything and "neither did he pass urine or stool", according to the hospital's deputy superintendent, Dr Dinesh Desai.

www.amazingabilities.com...
Apparently this is called Indedia wiki provides a typical intro.

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reply to post by Maybe...maybe not

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Maybe...maybe not, the scientist wasn't the one who made the claim, the 82-year old man did.

Also, what to say about his brain scans of a 25-year old resemblance?

Dietary antioxidants can't get that extreme of an effect(although as he claims he didn't get any food, so no way of antioxidants being ingested by him apparently).

The laboratory facility doing the test is a military one, who makes drones and ballistic missiles...

Outright dismissal of this is not that easy...

For interest's sake, this is also being discussed in the medical forum:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

reply to post by Maybe...maybe not

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Lol no need to say it twice, the link to that thread is in the second post down on first page.

Originally posted by polarwarrior
reply to post by Maybe...maybe not

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Lol no need to say it twice, the link to that thread is in the second post down on first page.

Sorry.....I must've had a big twitch

He has been studied before. he has done 10 days under observation. As mentioned above.




[edit on 29-4-2010 by squiz]

Originally posted by Maybe...maybe not
On the other hand.....

".....he has also been dismissed by others as a "village fraud."

www.telegraph.co.uk...

Exactly......he's a fraud.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

Easy tiger, surely we should be giving him the benefit of the doubt before we all plough in with our own judgements. Isn't this sort of talk responsible for alot of the globes problems? perhaps if we listened to each other before passing sweeping statements (that we are all guilty of, including me) the world would be a better place.

reply to post by jjjtir

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jjjtir.....

It's always nice to see you in the threads

Maybe...maybe not, the scientist wasn't the one who made the claim, the 82-year old man did.

I said that if the Dr confirms any of these claims, he is only doing that to get attention & publicity. I didn't say the Dr has said that as yet.

The Dr in question is Dr. William Selvamurthy



en.wikipedia.org...

Also, what to say about his brain scans of a 25-year old resemblance?

I don't believe it.

Dietary antioxidants can't get that extreme of an effect(although as he claims he didn't get any food, so no way of antioxidants being ingested by him apparently).

I believe he has been eating, so he could have been ingesting antioxidants.

The laboratory facility doing the test is a military one, who makes drones and ballistic missiles...

Yes they do…..here’s their website:

www.drdo.org...

They also have an active medical area

en.wikipedia.org...

Outright dismissal of this is not that easy...

It is for me! (sorry…..I know that sounds rude….. )

Kind regards
Maybe…maybe not

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reply to post by franspeakfree

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Franspeakfree.....

"Easy tiger....."

You've made my day.....I haven't heard that for a long time!

Look.....my problem with this one is that I've been in the medical game for a long time & I flat out don't believe this is possible.

If you can provide me with peer reviewed literature to back this story up, I'll have a look at it.

Until then, it's a hoax.

Kind regards as always
Maybe...maybe not

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reply to post by franspeakfree

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Franspeakfree.....

It shouldn't take to long to prove if 'scientists' are studying this man. How long can the average human being last without food and drink? my reckoning is by the end of the week we should know.

I don't necessarily trust the Dr who is in charge of this.

As I stated above, if the Dr supports this, he will do this to get attention & publicity.

Also.....

Proper study & review would take more than a week.....considerably more.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

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reply to post by Maybe...maybe not

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If you don't trust this doctor of 2010, what do you say about the other interdisciplinary team from 2003?

You know the only peer reviewed type of work than can be submitted about him is a "Case Report".

It can't be done using the gold standard, this isn't a drug strength/effectiveness comparison study.

As you probably noticed, his body weight fell slightly in the test performed in 2003, but this 2nd test should gather additional details if it's carried out for a longer period than the 1st.

reply to post by jjjtir

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jjjtir.....

I've just been reviewing that other thread.....wow.....it's 7 years old!

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Anyway.....I don't believe it's possible, so I would need to see more than a case report from a place like that.

I'd need to see a peer reviewed study of this guy that was carried out a prestigious institution that I trusted.

Sorry.....I guess I'm just going to get really boring because I'm going to keep saying the same thing.

Cheers mate
Maybe...maybe not

How sad, everyone already has their minds locked and permanently set regarding this issue.

I searched for more details about him, and found all the bloodwork/biochemistry tests, imaging scans done on him from the initial 2003 test.

You can find the details at Dr. Sudhir V. Shah's website.

There is a full medical report in pdf, and a full powerpoint slide presentation with MRI imaging pictures, doppler, ultrasound, ECG, genetic test etc...

They are located in the heading "Mataji - Case Study".

From what little I know, 3 negative results stand out to me:

There was an increase in uric acid, may account for lack of urination?

-auditory system damage, which was described as

"Bilateral severe to profound degree of sensori-neural hearing loss."

-a "Gallbladder collapse", not an often used medical term.

This was not peer reviewed, so maybe members here on ATS from the medical field could do part of the review, but not in this predetermined mindset against it from the start.

The full medical and documented evidence is now presented, now there isn't much more to say.

This new doctor from an Indian defense facility is basing his work on fully documented medical evidence reported in 2003.

The scientific method involves replication of previous research, no attempt to hoax people here.

By aiming to replicate and validate previous research, he is following the scientific method.

reply to post by polarwarrior

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My own mind tells me from time to time to give up food.... i havnt tried it yet coz i don't want to turn into bone

Maybe it can be done... i mean we've been eating since we were born because that's how it's always been...

There have been days when i've just ate a sandwich in the morning and a sandwich in the evening... didnt need any big meal...

I might give this a go myself... i kbnow i can go a whole day without food when i'm doing what i enjoy doing.

PS. don't forget that there's tons of foods available in the shops which we don't really need but just pig out on because it's there...

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