Originally posted by MikeboydUS
Speaking of Cain, did you realize that he is described as the founder of the first civilization, the city state of Enoch in the land of
Yes, Biblically speaking, you are 100% correct.
But I wonder if it was really the 1st city/state.
Think about this, the Bnai Elohim likely came down to the cities to the urban descendants of Cain.
Your thoughts here Mike are likely the closest I have seen anyone suggest in ATS to the TRUTH OF THE MATTER.
Look. Whether you accept the assumption, since it is only an assumption, that Cain is Adam's Son, or you accept the suggestion, since it is only a
suggestion, that Cain is the Devil's Son, we are dealing with a fellow here who turned his back on GOD, and infact exhibited many of the charater
flaws the Devil had. Vainity? Ego? Are these not sins that caused Satan to Fall. (Like father, Like Son, or so they say)
Now, IF and only IF Cain was Satan's (The Hissing like a Serpent's) Son, then wouldn't it be in Satan's interest to have his offspring looked
after by the Fallen?
ENOCH CHAPTER VIII.
1. And Azâzêl taught men to make swords, and knives, and shields, and breastplates, and made known to them the metals 〈of the earth〉 and the art
of working them, and bracelets, and ornaments, and the use of antimony, and the beautifying of the eyelids, and all kinds of costly stones, and all
2. And there arose much godlessness, and they committed fornication, and they were led astray, and became corrupt in all their ways.
Semjâzâ taught enchantments, and root-cuttings,
Armârôs the resolving of enchantments,
Kôkabêl the constellations,
Ezêqêêl the knowledge of the clouds,
Araqiêl the signs of the earth,
Shamsiêl the signs of the sun〉,
and Sariêl the course of the moon.
And as men perished, they cried, and their cry went up to heaven . . .
Now, I do believe, we need only seek to see where the "Accepted" Origins of these Sciences came from. Once we see who had the most exact and
superior knowledge of Weapons Craft and Metal Smithing, we will likely find the area inwhich Azazel taught men what? When we find the Astrologers, I
am sure we will find where Baraqijal taught man what? When we find the Origin of the Calender, we will likely know where Sariel taugh man what?
I trust you are getting my point. Your Observation / Suggestion above is a valid one, that deserves to be discussed in detail at some point. People at
least need to understand, Mankind, as a whole, was given knowledge by the Watchers who chose to leave their place of habitation, and ALL ANCIENT
CULTURES which have documents / records of any type, confirm this.
The pastoral nomadic descendants of Seth, that Noah descends from, was likely not the objective of the Bnai Elohim.
I expect two things occured here.
1: The Decendants of Seth followed GOD and His Laws.
2: The Decendants of Seth where protected by the Watchers (The other Son's of GOD) who did not choose to leave their place of habitation to take the
daughters of Man, and become gods and deities to be worshiped in GOD's place like our Ancient Past suggests. (See any Ancient Culture, and they
confirm it themselves, just in "other" words reflective of their own perspective.)
Instead the first Nephilim, should come from the line of Cain.
I would suggest, Cain himself fits that bill, but thats my believe/opinion only.