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Boy Scouts Offer New Merit Pin -- for Video Gaming

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posted on Apr, 29 2010 @ 02:31 AM

Originally posted by illusions

I'm not. I try not to get involved with organizations who are in bed with the government.

If you mean what is wrong or right with a merrit badge for playing video games, I say nothing! I think B.S.A. should also give badges for watching movies!

This question really doesn't make sense as it is written. I'll take a gander that you want to know if disapproving of the boy scouts offering a merrit badge for video games is assisting this website or the B.S.A.???

If that is your question, I would say yes. It's always good to allow the open, respectful and uncensored discussion of any topic or organization, esspecially those that deal with the development of our children.

Okay. Being honest and sharing your feelings in a polite manner is good when something bothers you. I hope that you can work through your anger and be okay with those who don't think that a B.S.A. video badge is a worthy accomplishment to be encouraged in our youth.

Oh, and by the way, I think that you may have stretched out this thread by inserting the sexist "motivational" poster your post.

Oh and just wanted to add...Keep up the good work with our kids!

[edit on 29-4-2010 by illusions]

1) Sometimes this is about as unavoidable as standing in a pit of rattlesnakes.

2) Well, not sure exactly sure how I feel about that one, really.

3) Good answer.

It may not have made sense, initially, but I liked your reply nonetheless.

Anger, what anger is that?

There was no anger, as far as I was concerned, grinding gears have no emotion.

When involved with Scouting, anger never enters the equation, nor in discussing it.

I have stretched out this thread, really?

I considered I was posting a reply within a thread, not lengthening the thread.

Puppies, chess, or non-sexually explicit blonde females are sexist to you?

If you want to see my thoughts on children and or raising them here's a good thread.

Our Children almost lost their Innocence]Our Children almost lost their Innocence

I deal primarily with the adult leaders and maintaining proper training and or running of the integral inner workings of Unit facilitation with Committees and District.

Conflict de-escalation, conflict resolution, training procedures are what I deal with.

Everything flows from that in regards to all levels of Scouting in and through Youth Protection.

[edit on 29-4-2010 by SpartanKingLeonidas]

posted on Apr, 29 2010 @ 02:44 AM

Originally posted by Tadarida
They'd better be careful.

I mean, look what happened to Ender Wiggin.

I happened to have enjoyed Ender's Game and all of the series.

Marvel Hotline: Ender's Game: Battle School

An excellent work of fiction by Orson Scott Card.

As was Lord of the Flies in regards to survival and societal beliefs.

And as well the Halo book series as fictional future endeavors.

I happen to think books are video games for the mind through exploration.

reply to post by Wolf321

That's really an awesome experience to be able to pass on knowledge to those willing to learn.

Especially through free-will and independent choice in regards to leadership qualities.

Leadership is learned in many ways through experience being passed on.

[edit on 29-4-2010 by SpartanKingLeonidas]

posted on Apr, 29 2010 @ 02:56 AM
This thread deserves NO STAR and NO FLAG. You posted a biased news source(just so happened to be FOX lol) that bashes this issue into some kind of problem that will ruin children.

FOR ALL WHO WANT A BETTER SOURCE, CHECK OUT THIS ARTICLE BY KOTAKU. It lists requirements for the BELT LOOP and PIN as well as reasons for the creation of the new merits.

I was once a scout and I would have enjoyed a chance like this.

To earn a belt loop:

* Explain why it is important to have a rating system for video games. Check your video games to be sure they are right for your age.

* With an adult, create a schedule for you to do things that includes your chores, homework, and video gaming. Do your best to follow this schedule.

* Learn to play a new video game that is approved by your parent, guardian, or teacher.

To earn an academic pin, scouts must complete five of the following nine options (in addition to completing the three previous belt loop challenges):

* With your parents, create a plan to buy a video game that is right for your age group.

* Compare two game systems (for example, Microsoft Xbox, Sony PlayStation, Nintendo Wii, and so on). Explain some of the differences between the two. List good reasons to purchase or use a game system.

* Play a video game with family members in a family tournament.

* Teach an adult or a friend how to play a video game.

* List at least five tips that would help someone who was learning how to play your favorite video game.

* Play an appropriate video game with a friend for one hour.

* Play a video game that will help you practice your math, spelling, or another skill that helps you in your schoolwork.

* Choose a game you might like to purchase. Compare the price for this game at three different stores. Decide which store has the best deal. In your decision, be sure to consider things like the store return policy and manufacturer's warranty.

* With an adult's supervision, install a gaming system.

The new merits help a scout make proper commercial decisions on one's own, budget time, as well as improve responsibility. The Kotaku article does not bash but condones the merits by stating reasons for why it was made as well as the requirements for the merits(which many MSM articles completely don't do).

Just another stupid ploy to make video games look bad, but this news seems to have some merit!

EDIT: Some spelling errors.

[edit on 4/29/2010 by TheBloodRed]

posted on Apr, 29 2010 @ 03:13 AM
reply to post by TheBloodRed

Good stuff TheBloodRed, that's the sort of methodology I'd expect to see in a badge's merits.

Socialising, consideration of price, technology and shop policies, teaching others, educational material and fun and friends.

Now as a Network Scout does that mean I can get a backdated badge for unlocking everything in GTA IV?


posted on Apr, 29 2010 @ 03:14 AM
reply to post by TheBloodRed

Thank you for posting something neutrally balanced.

It is appreciated.

And learning proper societal skills are important on many levels.

Including video games if they are affordable and or teach good values.

posted on Apr, 29 2010 @ 03:16 AM
reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas

I meant that I thought you may have stretched out the "width" of this thread side to side(not the length) by inserting the sexist fake motivational pster. I think that you sharing your thoughts on this topic is great! Keep it up!

You wrote...
"Puppies, chess, or non-sexually explicit blonde females are sexist to you?"

I'm not sure why you would ask if Puppies, chess and non-sexually explicit blondes are sexist to me?

Is it because the fake, sexist motivational poster that you inserted in your post has those things in it?

I'm glad that you were not angry in your first post when you said
"Sorry, guess it just really grinds my gears, considering I'm an adult leader in the B.S.A."

Anyway, It's nice to see you care about kids.

posted on Apr, 29 2010 @ 04:14 AM

Originally posted by illusions
I'm not sure how playing video games encourages young people to help little old ladies across the street as the other poster mentioned.

What i mean is that when you are in the cubs/scouts they try to teach you to have respect and help people and correct me if i am wrong but i think Helping old ladies across the street is a task you can do to earn a badge.Now if a kid heres the word video game he takes notice and may join the scouts based on videogames alone.Which could lead him to helping.


posted on Apr, 29 2010 @ 04:27 AM
reply to post by m0r1arty

Thanks for posting that.

Ordinarily i would have said that to give cub scouts merit badges for the exact thing we all moan about as parents, them sitting on their backsides in front of the tv all day, is a shame.

However if kids are going to play these games, which of course they will, it is better to learn the proper way to incorporate these into their lives.

I agree that the article seems to have been written in a manner that it slams the plan.

I see they've introduced a badge for god manners and reading and writing....great news....much needed for a lot of kids these days!


posted on Apr, 29 2010 @ 01:47 PM
reply to post by illusions

Oh yes, I get it about stretching it out, and yes I agree.

I had to do a few things to get the picture to fit the parameters of the thread.

There's a thread on how to do all of that, while off topic a tad, it fits with B.S.A.

A Guide to BBCode on ATS : ATS Member loam's Thread

Do a good turn daily.

I do that on ATS on a daily basis in many ways.

As for the the "puppies, chess, and non-sexually expicit blonde females" commentary, the below picture answers your questions, in reply to me in that regard.

And I happen to care very much about training and leadership, which through adult leaders, is passed on to the youth, through Unit functions and District directives.

Just for the edification of everyone on this thread, who has not read the article, it is discussing a "Merit Pin", for Cub Scout aged youth which teaches responsibility.

Something all American citizens, no matter their age range, could benefit from immensely.

[edit on 29-4-2010 by SpartanKingLeonidas]

posted on Apr, 29 2010 @ 02:32 PM
My son from his early youth played Armored Core, Call of Duty, Ghost Recon, Rainbow 6 and Halo. He truned down an offer from West Point to play football for them and become an officer in the US Army. I said that to make the point that these games didnot inspire him to join the military.


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