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Arizona immigration law could drive Latinos out of state

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posted on Apr, 28 2010 @ 08:52 AM
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reply to post by Izarith
 


Well I have to tell that at least "in my neck of woods" crime involving illegals is growing, I done work as interpretor for the federal court local circuit while working for a migrant worker lawyer and the crimes span from drug traficking, assault and domestic dispute (beating of girlfriends and wives).




posted on Apr, 28 2010 @ 08:52 AM
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Originally posted by Izarith
reply to post by Blanca Rose
 


You guys are crazy!!

You are really crazy and there is no reasoning with you.

What is the difference between a Legal Mexican and a illegal Mexican?

We are the same damn thing. A piece of paper does not make a person not steal a car or rob a house or rape.

Your country is full of Mexicans, if you kicked every single illegal out your country would still be full of Mexicans.

IT'S A DONE DEAL, IT'S OVER, YOUR TIME IS LONG GONE!

Now your just beating a dead horse. while your government is just laughing it's ass of making underhand cap and trade deals, robbing you blind of your children's future.

Egging you on to bark at the Illegal, and you guys just perck up with a growl like dopes.

Crazy I tell you.



Folks, this is what it all boils down to because there is no argument in this issue.

And this is the only real argument you have which is nothing too. See, for you, your citizenship might not mean jack, but to most of us US citizens, we LOVE and RESPECT our constitution and you better damn well feel the same if you want to be a citizen!

[edit on 28-4-2010 by DerbyCityLights]



posted on Apr, 28 2010 @ 08:53 AM
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Originally posted by Izarith

What is the difference between a Legal Mexican and a illegal Mexican?


One is legal, and one isn't.


We are the same damn thing. A piece of paper does not make a person not steal a car or rob a house or rape.


True, but a legal citizen who commits these crimes is more easily traceable.


Your country is full of Mexicans, if you kicked every single illegal out your country would still be full of Mexicans.


And your point being, that you endorse illegals. Plain and simple. Some of us don't.


IT'S A DONE DEAL, IT'S OVER, YOUR TIME IS LONG GONE!


No, it's TIME to put an end to this. It is not a DONE DEAL by far, as much as you don't agree with it.

edit to fix quote


[edit on 28-4-2010 by Blanca Rose]



posted on Apr, 28 2010 @ 08:57 AM
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I'm not telling you enforce the Arizona law.

DO IT!!!

But for the life of me I just trying to make you sorry sons of people who don't understand that you are being played like a double-damned Depeche Mode record in a gay bar on Tuesday's 80's night.....*FacePalm*

What use is a law that kicks immigrants out of your state, shoving them into another while draining your stats economy?

You don't even have a wall at your boarder for crying out loud! Even if you rounded them up and kicked them out they would all be back with in the week in another state!

Do me a favor, take the Mexican immigration laws and apply them to your country. Then we will talk.

your country is going to heat this up until it passes it cap and trade law, then it's going to give blanket amnesty to all the illegals. that's YOUR governments plan, this is what WILL be done because you guys are so busy pointing the finger at the illegal and not your government.



posted on Apr, 28 2010 @ 09:00 AM
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Originally posted by Izarith
reply to post by DerbyCityLights
 


I'm not telling you enforce the Arizona law.

DO IT!!!

But for the life of me I just trying to make you sorry sons of people who don't understand that you are being played like a double-damned Depeche Mode record in a gay bar on Tuesday's 80's night.....*FacePalm*

What use is a law that kicks immigrants out of your state, shoving them into another while draining your stats economy?

You don't even have a wall at your boarder for crying out loud! Even if you rounded them up and kicked them out they would all be back with in the week in another state!

Do me a favor, take the Mexican immigration laws and apply them to your country. Then we will talk.

your country is going to heat this up until it passes it cap and trade law, then it's going to give blanket amnesty to all the illegals. that's YOUR governments plan, this is what WILL be done because you guys are so busy pointing the finger at the illegal and not your government.



Thats it. You do not live in Mexico. You are somewhere in Virginia Posting disinfo for Barack lol! Your post just make me laugh



posted on Apr, 28 2010 @ 09:03 AM
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You make me almost puke dude.


seriously there was barf in my mouth while reading that.

You have destroyed the greatest country in the world. America the land your great grand daddy gave his life for is gone. Stolen by a bunch of second hand politicians.

That Constitution your blabbering about was turned into toilet paper. It is a useless decoration in your social halls.

All this was done BY YOU, the citizen of America.

How dare you speak those words, how dare you.



posted on Apr, 28 2010 @ 09:04 AM
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Originally posted by DerbyCityLights

Originally posted by Izarith
reply to post by Blanca Rose
 


The majority of crime is not done by illegals.




Thats funny...

I live in Kentucky. Do you have any idea where that is in the US? Just about right down the center line of the country. Almost equidistance from either the north or south border. In the City I live in, we have BORDER PATROL STATIONED AT OUR POLICE HEAD END STATION! Why? Because there are four apartment complexes in a two square mile radius that have been overrun by illegal Mexicans and illegal Cubans that have brought with the prostitution, Crack, Coke, Marijuana and Gangs.

The Majority of crime in MY county IS done by illegals.


Yea they should at least get organized like the Italians and the Irish.

Really a lot of this paralells much of what immigrants past have done. Like Mexicans in Cali growing dope and the Irish/Scotts making moonshine in the hills.

But issue are a bit differnet today.



[edit on 28-4-2010 by Logarock]



posted on Apr, 28 2010 @ 09:09 AM
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Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by Izarith
 


Well I have to tell that at least "in my neck of woods" crime involving illegals is growing, I done work as interpretor for the federal court local circuit while working for a migrant worker lawyer and the crimes span from drug traficking, assault and domestic dispute (beating of girlfriends and wives).



Yes why should they feel inclined to be good law abiding citizens when they cant even obey or are not required to obey citizen laws.



posted on Apr, 28 2010 @ 09:10 AM
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I don't give a hoot what you think.

I might be a Mexican but i'm an American citizen and it my Double-Damned duty beyond my right to make sure that people like you, people who would destroy a country like it's nothing with your apathy and inability to think, don't run around like a chicken with their heads cut off blaming a people who America has rolled out the red carpet for.

The problem is the US or God Damned A buddy, And until you swallow that jagged pill your going to be pointing the finger at a hell of alot more people who were suckerd to this rat race by suites up in wall street and the oval office.



posted on Apr, 28 2010 @ 09:17 AM
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Eli you boooooy....

Are we mad at the illegal immigrant for coming to your country?

Quit sobbing like a child and Let me put it this way.......




posted on Apr, 28 2010 @ 09:17 AM
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Originally posted by Izarith


I don't give a hoot what you think.


Well, right there it just goes to show, you are lying! I appreciate your passion on the subject, and you do care, or you would not take the time to reply to me!

I care what you think, and clearly you have a lot to say, and I appreciate that. Isn't America great? You have the opportunity to share your opinion as a citizen! It might not be correct, but you are allowed to share it.

Why should illegals, who are not citizens have that right? Most importantly, why do you feel the need to be their mouth piece?

I don't apologize for telling you, that as much as you try, you are not helping the cause of illegal immigrants here. What I think is that you are giving people more reason to want to see them leave.



posted on Apr, 28 2010 @ 09:21 AM
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The law doesn't help either, the lesser offenders stays here but when it comes to higher crimes like drug trafficking they are send back to the country of origin.

I remember this particular drug trafficker that he was so smug knowing that he will not serve a day in jail here in the US.

It was his third time been caught for the same crime in the US.



posted on Apr, 28 2010 @ 09:21 AM
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Originally posted by DerbyCityLights
And Im supposed to feel sorry for a woman who has been here illegally for 7 years? Good riddance I say! Every other country gets to enforce their immigration laws and we should be able to as well. Let them go. Dont let the door hit you on the way out!




I couldn't have said it better!

[edit on 28-4-2010 by sweetliberty]



posted on Apr, 28 2010 @ 09:33 AM
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I don't care what you think I truly don't.

All I want is for you to squirm in the shine of your inevitable doom, your demise, your destruction.

Why would I care what a person incapable of living his life and propagating of his freedoms and respect that his forefathers died for to his unborn children.

You American have no Idea what kind of mess you are in, what kind of theft you have let happen to your country due to your lack of reason.

You would rather watch people get shoved from the meager homes they have carved out for them selves despite the underhanded slave standards they have been put through rather than put a stop to the source of the slave extortion. All because they arrived to America while on your tyrannical Nazi watch.

Each and every one of you is urinating on the faces of your great grandmother and father who were immigrants like those you are robbing of their acquired wealth.

And you pitiful people who are to ashamed to call yourselves for what you are and have adopted the generic term of Latino, well I won't even waist my breath on you....

That is what the once proud nation of America has been turned into, Crybabies and Mexicans who would shoot their mothers if they were border patrol and she was trying to sneak in.




posted on Apr, 28 2010 @ 09:36 AM
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Originally posted by Izarith
reply to post by DerbyCityLights
 


Eli you boooooy....

Are we mad at the illegal immigrant for coming to your country?

Quit sobbing like a child and Let me put it this way.......



Yes drink the shake...and turn arizona into a trailer park gangland dump of lawlessness like the home country. Thats the idea. The new gangland getto state in the desert where illegals out number the citizens by 10 to one someday.

If we have to give the state away give it back to the natives and let them run it old school. Or let the asians have it. They know how to run a tight ship. But for heavens sake get those guilt ridden white folk out of there. Thier stench is worse that an open sewer.



posted on Apr, 28 2010 @ 09:40 AM
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Latinos and hispanics are not really effected by this law. They are MEXICANS! White people are hesitant to use the word MEXICAN because they have all made the mistake of using the word MEXICAN to denote the Spanish language. My MEXICAN friends do not like being lumped in with Latin speakers and Hispanos. There are really not that many non-mexican illegal aliens in Arizona.



posted on Apr, 28 2010 @ 09:41 AM
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Yes.....

Yes that right...Keep blaming the illegal immigrant, you just keep on blaming them....that's good. Take it all out on the illegal immigrant.

But you know what.....




posted on Apr, 28 2010 @ 09:42 AM
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Well, yes again you do care, or you wouldn't even want to see me squirm.

I'd like to point out, that you are not furthing your cause, or getting a point across with personal insults, by the way. You are not only insulting people who are making intelligent, well thought out remarks on the subject, you are now also insulting their parents, or grandparents, etc... That is not cool.

Make an argument on this topic that makes sense, without slamming people with your own twisted point of veiw, and honestly, people might listen to you.

Like I said, this is not about Mexicans. It's about illegals, and there are some that don't happen to be Mexican. All of them need to go home, not just the ones from south of the border. People of other nationalities come through that weakened border, also.

The fact that all of this is being brought to the border states of Mexico, does show the large majority of illegals, are, Mexican.

Perhaps illegals should go to Canada. Not many of them sneak into the US, so life must be really good there!



posted on Apr, 28 2010 @ 09:42 AM
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Originally posted by DaddyBare
reply to post by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
 


Whoa there buddy I never said I hated Latinos...
My grandmother and great grandmother were from Spain so I share common ancestry with a lot of these folks...

I have no problem living and working with Hispanics as long as they do it the right way, legally... and Hell I speak Spanish better than I do English... my first language is Apache though...Yeah I'm a Red Skin...

Maybe before you make wild claims like "you hate all Latinos!" you should double check your facts before you embarrass yourself

[edit on 28-4-2010 by DaddyBare]


Sorry... wires have been crossed... i never meant 'you' as in 'you personally' i meant a general 'you' as in 'you the people'...

Here on ATS i've seen plenty of threads about Hispanics in the US and most of those threads and the people who respond are saying things like they really have a distaste for hispanics!!

Once again sorry for the confusion in my OP



posted on Apr, 28 2010 @ 09:44 AM
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Originally posted by Izarith
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You would rather watch people get shoved from the meager homes they have carved out for them selves despite the underhanded slave standards they have been put through rather than put a stop to the source of the slave extortion. All because they arrived to America while on your tyrannical Nazi watch.



Slave extortion!
What like free medical, tax free status, free legal aid and bus ticket back to Mehico! Your are killing me here! Is that you Colbert?



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