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Originally posted by Snowi
Originally posted by mellisamouse
whole world may have been sort of MIB erased and re written.....
That sounds more realistic than a timeshift...
What if the whole world population has been under some kind of mind manipulation, but it did not work 100% on some of the population.
Glitches in the imprint...?
Originally posted by demonseed
Originally posted by mellisamouse
reply to post by IntastellaBurst
ok, we have ALL been studying austrailia and new zealand more than ever lately, and OMG It has totaly changed again!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Like in the last few weeks........ now New Zealand is WAYYYYY too far away, a completeley different shape....... a mere sliver compared to what it was...
Some of you must rember from a few weeks ago, New zealand was way up close to Austrailia, and WAY bigger.... not some little sliver down at the bottom, and even THAT last way was wrong as the jump before that with the somoa quake, New Zeland was on the completely other side!!!!
I am beyond baffled.....
omg your right....
wasnt papa new guinea to the northwest of australia? now its slightly Northeast... it also looks completely different.
Indonesia looks like it got sliced in half.
Originally posted by burdenofdreams
OK, I had to create an account just to comment on this. First of all: sorry for what may seem like weird vagueness, I try to remain as anonymous as possible online, which is hopefully just paranoia. So, here's my weird story: I've always taken an interest in Australia and NZ, as some of my favorite films come from this region, and I was always an A student in geography. One of my favorite gifts as a kid was a globe, which my siblings and I used all the time for games we made up. My favorite reading material was National Geographic - ancient civilizations, animals around the world, etc. My siblings and I were all in GATE classes (like Honors classes for grade school). Straight A's through college graduation. Anyways...
Yesterday an opportunity came up for me to travel to Oz and NZ this winter, and I went to look at a map of airports there to try to plan a trip...and the map I saw was COMPLETELY, UNNERVINGLY WRONG. Not like, "wow, I thought NZ was northeast of Oz and closer to it, guess my memory's going" -- I was so CERTAIN it was that I immediately looked at another map, and was completely baffled. My traveling partner had the same reaction!
Then, later the SAME NIGHT I came to ATS to look for threads about the BP spill, and under recent threads I found this one. And it spooked me so much that I asked my mother and siblings where Oz and NZ are in relation to each other (w/o telling why I was asking). My mother and 1 sibling said w/o hesitation that NZ was NE of Oz, while the other sibling correctly said it was SE. (So much for my theory that our made-in-China globe was some sort of communist trick on us).
It's really strange that we're all so CERTAIN of things being different (my mother, 1 sibling, travel partner, and I). Everything else about the current map of the world looks fine, it's just this region that's off (Oz should also be further than PNG, in my vivid memory of my globe, plus past maps, geog quizzes, etc).
I don't think this has anything to do with a time shift, because, as some have pointed out, other things would be changed drastically as well. And then there's the climate of NZ. It's just this vivid picture in my mind of the geography in this area of the world that doesn't match up. It seems clear this is a false memory. BUT...
For so many people to have the same false memory, and be so certain of it, and realize around the same time that it is wrong -- that's what spooks me. Did you know that specific false memories can be implanted by using light signals? Or during hypnosis? Or via subliminal messages (visual or aural)? Or psychotropics?
Consider this: Implanting a false memory that turns out not to be true is a good way to A) make a person doubt other memories that may be real, and B) make other people think this person is delusional.
If anything, this sounds more like a psychological experiment on unwitting human test subjects than a timeline shift. Certainly wouldn't be the first time. Here's a question: is there something that we all have in common? (That is, people who remember NZ and Australia being in different places - esp. those who recall NZ in the northeast).
Of course it could all be coincidence, but it is a rather peculiar coincidence.
Originally posted by destination now
reply to post by mellisamouse
Well no-one in my "timeline" thinks this, so could we have some more facts as you see it please, like for example the date you heard the news, the tv channel, internet site you heard the information on, the newspaper you read etc the actual number of your friends or associates that believe this (it would be great if you could convince them to come onto ATS and corroborate this)
Nelson Mandela has always been alive in my timeline and I remember events like his 70th birthday event in 1988 where Artists Against Apartheid got to together for a tribute and where the legendary "Free Nelson Mandela" was performed, of course Amy Winehouse managed to trump that in 2008 at Nelson's 90th by changing the lyrics to "Free Blakey my fella" in reference to her then jailed husband!
I also remember him being freed in 1990 and although he was diagnosed with prostate cancer in 2001 he is still very much alive. One of his sons died though in 2005 but he wasn't killed he died of an aids/hiv related illness.
So as I have provided evidence of his continued life, I would appreciate it if you could give me some solid evidence of why you think he died.