The Links Between Blackwater, CIA, Politics, Hitler and The " New Christianity"

Please note I used the term "New Christianity" NOT "Christianity" in my title, there is a huge difference. This thread is not about the difference in the two but is about the evil being purportrated upon all of us under the guise of Christianity

First, here is a look at the "New Christianity" or "The Family".

A secretive group known as The Fellowship, or “The Family,” is one of the most powerful Christian fundamentalist movements in the United States.

The Family’s devoted membership includes congressmen, corporate leaders, generals and foreign heads of state. Author Jeff Sharlet profiles the group in his book The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power.

AMY GOODMAN: We move on now closer to home. Senator John Ensign of Nevada, South Carolina Governor Mark Sanford and former Mississippi Congress member Chip Pickering—what do they all have in common? Yes, all three are Republican. All three have been embroiled in recent sex scandals.

Senator Ensign, a member of a male evangelical group that promotes marital fidelity, recently admitted to having an affair with a campaign staffer. He later disclosed that his parents gave almost $100,000 to the staffer and her family.

Governor Sanford’s wife recently moved out of the governor’s mansion, weeks after Sanford admitted to visiting a woman in Argentina and committing infidelities with several other women.

And last month, Congressman Pickering’s estranged wife filed suit against his alleged mistress, claiming the woman had ruined their marriage.

But these Republicans’ ties extend beyond their marital woes. All three have, at one time, lived in a former convent on Capitol Hill known as the C Street house, and all three are connected to a secretive group known as the Fellowship, or the Family.

It’s probably an organization you’ve never heard of, but it’s one of the most powerful Christian fundamentalist movements in this country.

The Family’s devoted membership includes Congress members, corporate leaders, generals, foreign heads of state, dictators. The longtime leader, Doug Coe, was included in Time Magazine’s 2004 list of the twenty-five most influential evangelicals in America.

In the following interview there are some very well known names mentioned; keep those in mind as I reveal to you what The Family is really all about.

Unlike other Christian right groups, they don’t really believe that you’re in power because you’re a good person.

They have no illusions about these guys. They believe that they are, as you said in the beginning, the “new chosen,” that you’re chosen for power by God. You’re not so much elected by the people as selected from above.

And when you’re in that position, it doesn’t matter what you do.

So here we have a very dangerous mix. People who are in charge believe they are entitled to be in that position because not only do they think themselves better than you and me, God thinks them better than you and me.

With that kind of backing, surely they could never fail or at least in their eyes they must never fail. They are beyond reproach.

In a similar vein, the foreign leaders with whom they work, the dictators, about whom they have no illusions, are chosen by God for their countries, regardless of how brutal they are.

Suharto the long-reigning dictator of Indonesia, presided over I don’t know how many deaths, both of his own people in Indonesia, up to a million people, and the people of East Timor, hundreds of thousands.

So what is the link between Congress and this dictator?

The Family leaders called it a spiritual revolution and began sending delegations of congressmen, oil executives, over to meet with Suharto.

They then hosted Suharto, actually, in the United States Senate for a Senate prayer breakfast with their members, to which they invited the then-Secretary of Defense Melvin Laird, then-chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

They have that kind of access. And they were able to arrange that kind of reach for Suharto. And they effectively became his most persuasive champions within the US Congress, as the United States funneled, as we know, just billions of dollars toward his military regime.

There are others just as bad if not worse.

So how do you get into "The Family"?

AMY GOODMAN: But you’re Jewish. How did you fit in?

JEFF SHARLET: In fact, that was part of what was interesting about me to them. They do believe only in sort of recruiting an elite. They’re not interested the masses.

They think that Christianity has been misunderstood, that Jesus only wanted to select a few key people. You can only get in by invitation. I was invited.

But they also liked the idea of having Jews, of having Muslims around, because they believe that inasmuch as a Jew or a Muslim is willing to bow before Jesus, he is proving what they call the “universal inevitable” of Jesus’ power.

www.democracynow.org...


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[edit on 27-4-2010 by paxnatus]

Where does a group with high profile politicians meet, and manage to keep it a secret?

According to the article they meet at the "C Street House".

Here is an article depicting the "C Street House".?

The Sanford and Ensign Scandals Open a Door On Previously Secretive 'C Street' Spiritual Haven. No sign explains the prim and proper red brick house on C Street SE. Nothing hints at its secrets. It blends into the street scape, tucked behind the Library of Congress, a few steps from the Cannon House Office Building, a few more steps to the Capitol. This is just the way its residents want it to be. Almost invisible.

But through one week's events, this stately old pad -- a pile of sturdy brick that once housed a convent -- has become the very nexus of American scandal, a curious marker in the gallery of capital shame.

Mark Sanford, South Carolina's disgraced Republican governor and a former congressman, looked here for answers -- for support, for the word of God -- as his marriage crumbled over his affair with an Argentine woman.

John Ensign, the senator from Nevada who just seven days earlier also was forced to admit a career-shattering affair, lives there.

"C Street," Sanford said Wednesday during his diffuse, cryptic, utterly arresting confessional news conference, is where congressmen faced "hard questions."

www.washingtonpost.com...

Here are some of the names that are members of "The Family".

Senators Don Nickles (R., Okla.), Charles Grassley (R., Iowa), Pete Domenici (R., N.Mex.), John Ensign (R., Nev.), James Inhofe (R., Okla.), Bill Nelson (D., Fla.), and Conrad Burns (R., Mont.) are referred to as “members,” as are Representatives Jim DeMint (R., S.C.), Frank Wolf (R., Va.), Joseph Pitts (R., Pa.), Zach Wamp (R., Tenn.), and Bart Stupak (D., Mich.).

harpers.org...


So I ask you, what is the most powerful family in the world? The Rockefeller's? The Bilderberg's? The Clinton's? The Bush's?

Perhaps it is simply "The Family" made up of the elected officials we sent to congress.


Peace,
Pax

Where are the links between Hitler, Blackwater, the CIA, and the Fellowship?

I don't see any link between the Fellowship and more theofascist concepts from Dominionism.

Hi Pax! Welcome back! We've missed you here on ATS. The "family" has been going strong since the 1970's I believe. Originially it was an OSS and later CIA hangout that tried to transform itself into something more legitimate, hence "the family".
There were stories that CIA and many Cuban Americans met there before the Kennedy assassination, people who had ties to the assassination itself, including Bush Sr.
I don't see where Blackwater (Xe) fits into this but I do know that it was the OSS who recruited many former Nazis, particularly for the space program. Nazi money was funnelled away into offshore banks and has been used since to finance the NWO.
Fascism didn't die with Nazi Germany, it came to America, put on a three-piece suit and began parading itself as the politics of morality
Glad you're back Pax

Originally posted by MikeboydUS
Where are the links between Hitler, Blackwater, the CIA, and the Fellowship?

I don't see any link between the Fellowship and more theofascist concepts from Dominion-ism.

Hi Mike, here is the information I think you asked for. If you google Erik Prince, founder of Blackwater, and Doug Coe one of the most prominent leaders of "The Family" I think you will see how they are related.

A little more history on "The Family".

By the end of the war, nearly a third of U.S. senators attended one of his weekly prayer meetings.

In 1944, Vereide had foreseen what he called “the new world order.” “Upon the termination of the war there will be many men available to carry on,” Vereide wrote in a letter to his wife. “Now the ground-work must be laid and our leadership brought to face God in humility, prayer and obedience.”

He began organizing prayer meetings for delegates to the United Nations, at which he would instruct them in God's plan for rebuilding from the wreckage of the war.

Donald Stone, a high-ranking administrator of the Marshall Plan, joined the directorship of Vereide's organization. In an undated letter, he wrote Vereide that he would “soon begin a tour around the world for the [Marshall Plan], combining with this a spiritual mission.”

In 1946, Vereide, too, toured the world, traveling with letters of introduction from a half dozen senators and representatives, and from Paul G. Hoffman, the director of the Marshall Plan. He traveled also with a mandate from General John Hildring, assistant secretary of state, to oversee the creation of a list of good Germans of “the predictable type” (many of whom, Vereide believed, were being held for having “the faintest connection” with the Nazi regime), who could be released from prison “to be used, according to their ability in the tremendous task of reconstruction.”

Vereide met with Jewish survivors and listened to their stories, but he nevertheless considered ex-Nazis well suited for the demands of “strong” government, so long as they were willing to worship Christ as they had Hitler.

harpers.org...

To understand the connection between these people and organizations, one must first delve deeper into the history of "The Family"
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The movement was founded in Seattle in 1935 by Abraham Vereide, a Norwegian immigrant and traveling preacher who had been working with the city's poor. He opposed FDR's New Deal and was worried that socialist politicians were about to take over Seattle's municipal government.

Prominent members of Seattle's business community recognized his success with those who were "down and out" and asked him to give spiritual direction to their group who were "up and out." He organized prayer breakfasts for politicians and businessmen that included anti-Communism and anti-union discussions.

He was subsequently invited to set up similar meetings among political and business leaders in San Francisco and Chicago.

Vereide's principal collaborator in France was Edmond Michelet, five-time minister under President Charles de Gaulle.

By 1942, the organization had moved headquarters to Washington, DC, where it helped create breakfast groups in the U.S. Senate and the House of Representatives.

In 1944, the organization's name was changed to International Christian Leadership, then in 1972, to The Fellowship Foundation. It was at this time that the group's leaders decided to lower the Fellowship's public profile by decentralizing its leadership.

The movement's members have been active in reconciliation efforts between the warring leaders of The Democratic Republic of the Congo, Burundi, Rwanda and many other similar conflicts around the world.

SP: Tell me about how Doug Coe admires Hitler.

JS: Vereide did too. In 1948, The Family is feeling good about themselves; Taft-Hartley was passed in 1947, which was part of their original goal. And Abram publishes a pamphlet for congressmen, for private distribution, called "A Better Way." He writes,

"We have entered an area where the masses of people are dependent on a rapidly diminishing number of leaders for the determination of their pattern of life and the definition of their ultimate goals.

It is the age of minority control." "The age of minority control" is something they believe in deeply. They do talk about what could go wrong if minority control got into the wrong hands.

As Doug Coe would say, Hitler and Lenin and Mao and these strong men of history understood the New Testament better than any other leader of the 20th century; they applied it to evil ends, but they behaved as God wanted. God wants a strong man to exert leadership in this age of minority control.

Another reason the Family is hiding under the guise of "Christianity" is the next 2 quotes:

SP: Was Jesus a strong man?

JS: Oh, yes, Jesus was the strongest man of all, and if he was alive today, he'd be the greatest quarterback, he'd be the number one CEO, he'd be the head of General Electric. When you live in The Family, they sit around and wonder how awesome Jesus would be if he raced NASCAR.

No, Jesus was weak. It was only through his weakness, that he was able to depend on God for His strength. God only works in us when we are "broken" and on our knees looking to Him for all we need.

Here, "The Family is being compared to The Bible as two entities that acquiesce violence. To claim to be a Christ follower
and entertain brutal dictators for the sole purpose of gaining political power is evil. Yet that is exactly what is taking place today.

SP: You were talking about how they don't like violence, but about the tendency of The Family to lend its hand to brutal dictators; this quote from Coe really stood out to me, "the Bible is full of mass murderers." So you're saying that they don't really advocate violence, but they acquiesce to violence.

JS: Yes. That's a nice example. Ted Haggard, later in the book says, you know, the Bible is a really bloody book.

SP: What do you think Barack Obama's relationship with The Family would be if he's elected?

JS: Obama's going to make peace with The Family -- you have to. He's going to go to the National Prayer Breakfast; he has to. How can you say, I'm opposed to prayer? They've set the terms up so you can't really go against it.

www.democraticunderground.com...

Thanks,
Pax

OMG. The Fellowship was founded in 1935 as a political and religous group for DECISION MAKERS. IT's why they were founded. Tons of humanitarian leaders and high ranking us govt officials as well as govt officials from around the world are members. Every president since Eisenhower have participated in their National Prayer Breakfast.

The group was founded to oppoose FDR's New Deal. Their vow of silence is backed by the bible's regard for public displays of good works. And with a little research you'll find the good works performed by members of this group far outweigh anyhthing bad they've done. If anything.

And they don't want the masses, on that part you are correct. They want decision makers, people who can get things done, people who have the ability to put their good works in motion. If you are a powerful executive, politician, upper level military or other person of influence, you can join. Just because they don't allow Joe Plumber doesn't make them bad. Its a religous political action group, what purpose does john doe have in that? None.

reply to post by DrJay1975


Thanks for your input Dr. jay. However, dig a little deeper. The organization firmly believes God hand picked them for these jobs because God, not man deems them superior to other men. Please show me in the Bible where Jesus chooses one man over another because they are a better person. To make that claim is completely false .

God does not award positions of power based on where a person ranks in society.

The fellowship is using God and the bible as a way of fulfilling their personal agenda and manipulating man. They are following their own will and not the will of God. God is not a manipulator.

Regards,
Pax

I just heard about this book "The Family". Has anyone read it?

There are a couple other threads discussing Jeff Sharlet the author. I picked this one to resurrect.

reply to post by Annee


Hi Annee,

I have only read excerpts of the book, not the book in it's entirety. I have heard interviews of the people who are trying to expose "The Family" for what they are. It is my opinion that this is a dangerous business.

Anytime, you put in power people who believe they are better than others period, you have opened the door for corruption and absolute power. If you add to the mix they think they were pre-ordained to hold these positions because God chose them over another based on the claim he finds them "better"., you open the door to genocide. crimes against humanity, and eugenics.

To hide your agenda under the guise of Christianity is repulsive and twisted in my book. This is nothing but pure unadulterated evil working in the world today.

Thanks,
Pax

Starred and flagged. The Family is a group of dangerous subversives that must be stopped. They are a real and immediate threat to American freedom and world peace.

Yes - - 2 books - - by Jeff Sharlet

"The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power" & "The C Street House".

I heard the author interviewed.

I had not heard of the book before. I am surprised more people are not discussing it.

There was not one active thread on this discussion.

Hopefully - - can keep this thread bumped to get one going.

"when fascism comes to america , it will be wrapped in the flag and clutching a cross" sinclair lewis.
here you go-
Palin-cnp-committee on national planning- Elsa Prince -then erik and the new ss-xe .
christian fighter pilots.com ..christian officers fellowship..etc.
these guys are the "prayer warriors" that palin speaks of.
Army of joel>manifest sons of god>New Apostolic Reformation-
global harvest ministeries> dominionism..
pilgrims society..operation trojan horse.
Hitler? ..new world order/project for a new american century..
from nazi Prescott Bush to cia george one and the installation of w.
who put down the coke and booze long enother to find jesus.
now- to pin the whole mess on the black guy.
have palin use the flagpole as a stripper pole.
she could win a 3 way race.
on to the nuclear crusades
the old nazis retire to the bush/sun mung moon expanses in paraguay
the new ss repositions in dubai. ready to sieze the caspian basin -
the goal of the nazis in 1942.
theres you linkage..same crew-same motive- same ploy-
we call it der Homeland instead of der Fatherland..
skull and bones? - they have the insignia on the lapels of the ss.
you have an ss number and will work and be taxed until death.
1000 bases world wide " full spectrum domination" the stated objective.
a global war with the army of one.
detention camps ready..
nothing but doublespeak and propaganda..
here and now..

reply to post by paxnatus

You may wish to check my thread The Religous Right Satans Lock stock and barrel in Religious conspiracies here I trace most prominant televeangelists through the Reverend Moon to the Rockerfellers you have covered the other nazi military industrial link many of these Christian Soldiers such as Oliver(purple heart for papercuts shredding documents)North have a Reverend Moon connection in Norths case back to the days he ran drugs and guns in the Iran Contra affair,Moon largely financed his legal defence.

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Thanks for that. I will go back and re-read your thread. I read most of it yesterday, however have not had a chance to comment.

Pax

Originally posted by MikeboydUS

I don't see any link between the Fellowship and more theofascist concepts from Dominionism.

What do you mean by theofascist?

What do you mean by Dominionism?

Thanks,
ET