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Originally posted by flightsuit
This happened to me yesterday in another forum, because I asserted that 9/11 was an inside job.
I've certainly seen the word used before, but it felt odd to have somebody hurl it at me as a pejorative. Obviously it's a derivative of the term "birther," and is often used in the same breath as that word.
Sad, and very frustrating.
Originally posted by LordBucket
reply to post by flightsuit
Sad, and very frustrating.
Why?
Amongst all possible epithets, how is one that associates you with truth a bad thing?
Them: "You're a truther!"
You: "Why, yes. Truth is very important to me. Isn't it important to you?"
How can they respond to that?
Originally posted by mikelee
Better a truther than a liar any day.
Scripps News Service
The national survey of 1,010 adults also found that anger against the federal government is at record levels, with 54 percent saying they "personally are more angry" at the government than they used to be. Widespread resentment and alienation toward the national government appears to be fueling a growing acceptance of conspiracy theories about the 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. Suspicions that the 9/11 attacks were "an inside job" _ the common phrase used by conspiracy theorists on the Internet _ quickly have become nearly as popular as decades-old conspiracy theories that the federal government was responsible for President John F. Kennedy's assassination and that it has covered up proof of space aliens.
Salem News / Also see my thread on it also
In John Farmer’s book: “The Ground Truth: The Story Behind America’s Defense on 9/11″, the author builds the inescapably convincing case that the official version... is almost entirely untrue... The 9/11 Commission now tells us that the official version of 9/11 was based on false testimony and documents and is almost entirely untrue. The details of this massive cover-up are carefully outlined in a book by John Farmer, who was the Senior Counsel for the 9/11 Commission. Farmer, Dean of Rutger Universities' School of Law and former Attorney General of New Jersey, was responsible for drafting the original flawed 9/11 report.
Truthers have never been able to show anyone "lied" about 9/11.
Originally posted by jthomas
Originally posted by mikelee
Better a truther than a liar any day.
Truthers have never been able to show anyone "lied" about 9/11.
But Truthers have a nasty habit of never admitting they have been never been able to demonstrate any validity to any of their claims. Truthers continue to repeat their claims regardless.
And why Truthers have never made one step forward with their unsupported claims.
So no one should be surprised that Truthers get the derision they do.
Originally posted by bsbray11
We all know what types resort to name-calling and personal attacks.
In fact I was under the impression that anyone making any kind of personal remark towards another at all on this forum anymore, including "truther," was terms for moderation. But we all know how that goes -- moderated one week and ignored the next.
Originally posted by jthomas
Truthers have never been able to show anyone "lied" about 9/11.
Originally posted by mikelee
reply to post by jthomas
Its clear from looking at your account that you obviously have an issue with seeking the truth regarding 911.
Something that you do not seemed to be too concerned about doing despite that 85% of Americans believe that the US Gov was complicit in some manner regarding the events of 911.
Scripps News Service
The national survey of 1,010 adults also found that anger against the federal government is at record levels, with 54 percent saying they "personally are more angry" at the government than they used to be. Widespread resentment and alienation toward the national government appears to be fueling a growing acceptance of conspiracy theories about the 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. Suspicions that the 9/11 attacks were "an inside job" _ the common phrase used by conspiracy theorists on the Internet _ quickly have become nearly as popular as decades-old conspiracy theories that the federal government was responsible for President John F. Kennedy's assassination and that it has covered up proof of space aliens.
"Thirty-six percent of respondents overall said it is "very likely" or "somewhat likely" that federal officials either participated in the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon or took no action to stop them "because they wanted the United States to go to war in the Middle East."
Seems like the more the discussion goes on the more that people such as yourself try to insult rather than anything else in regards to discussing 911.
Despite what you believe normal folks just move on if they think that something is "stupid" or otherwise, but people like you step into the middle of it because you know for a fact your position is full of lies when based on the official explanation of 911.
The 911 report you people try to defend is a lie, ...
...and thats not my opinion rather its the statement by the Senior Counsel to the Commission.
"On September 11, 2001, 19 men armed with knives, box-cutters, mace and pepper spray penetrated the defenses of the most powerful nation in the world. They inflicted unbearable trauma on our people, and turned the international order upside down."
Originally posted by rusethorcain
reply to post by jthomas
Truthers have never been able to show anyone "lied" about 9/11.
A lie by omission. How did that building 7 go down again?
The fact that there are so many people who remain unconvinced has merit in and of itself. This should be a no brainer...but some how, it isn't.
"41% believe creationism, that is, the idea that God created human beings pretty much in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years" is true and "evolution, that is, the idea that human beings developed over millions of years from less advanced forms of life" is false, ...
www.pollster.com...
Originally posted by muzzleflash
Just like the way we can categorize all Christians, Muslims, Chinese, Europeans, etc under a huge umbrella and say "they do this or that".
When reality is so not like that.
Reality Folks. Everyone is different. Everyone thinks in different ways.
No one is the same.
Blanket statements, umbrellas, and prejudices/stereotypes are NOT good when trying to deny ignorance.
Originally posted by _BoneZ_
Originally posted by jthomas
Truthers have never been able to show anyone "lied" about 9/11.
That statement, in and of itself could be considered a lie. Perhaps you forgot about the thread where NIST lied about molten steel at the WTC?