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reply posted on 27-4-2010 @ 04:08 PM by anameisbutaname

Im glad someone if finally standing up for this. Our boarders are not secure enough. Sure a fence probably wouldn't help much but we need to focus less on overseas crap and more on whats happening here in the US. How can be even begin to worry about everyone else problems when there are so many here.

I despise illegal immigrants because they are spitting in the faces of all of the people that wait to get into the United States. I think this is the right thing to do. More boarder patrol, harsher penalties, if you get caught coming over illegally then you shouldn't be allowed in the country again. To many people want in, but you have to do it right.

reply posted on 27-4-2010 @ 04:20 PM by GovtFlu

Originally posted by crontab
The border is not the real problem. The problem is that Mexico is messed up. If the Mexican government can't handle the cartels, we should just send in the US military to deal with the cartels in Mexico.

The occupations of iraq and afganistan aren't big enough epic fails, lets start another one the nation cant even afford... congress is so morally and financially broke, they cant even pay attention!

Most border drug crime problems stop tomorrow by ending prohibition... the mere suggestion of supporting the fed govt with violence or troops is disturbing... haven't the feds demonstrated their complete incompetence by thus far failing miserably at every attempt at prohibition? yet somehow giving the feds more power and authority is the answer?

Why not strip the feds of their powers, and WOD funds wasted on a loss, and allow us adults the freedom decide what drugs we can use? like in venezuela or amsterdam?

The war on drugs has been lost, it's time to surrender.. take impure overly potent heroin & crack off the streets where kids can but them and let coors & big pharma sell controlled lower dosages of opiate / stimulant / TCH 'beer' at 7-11 to adults for $10 a 6 pack.

methadone prices

An opiate addict can be pacified, and tapered off, for about $50 bucks a month (10mg tabs 4x daily).. there are common sense simple solutions out there but the feds wont even think of them, without the war on drugs they will lose billions in funds, a great excuse to expand the empire with world wide military bases.. it's all a scam.

reply posted on 27-4-2010 @ 05:39 PM by DogsDogsDogs

I have just read a second article

www.washingtontimes.com...

that states that when illegals are apprehended in Arizona, they will be "handed over" to immigration officials. In other words, the law is toothless. Federal immigration officials thwarting US immigration laws is how we got into this mess in the first place.

reply posted on 28-4-2010 @ 03:25 AM by DangerDeath

news.bbc.co.uk...

Migrants in Mexico are facing a "major human rights crisis" as the authorities fail to tackle widespread abuses, Amnesty International has warned.

The human rights group said officials ignored or even played a part in the rape, kidnap, and murder of migrants, often carried out by criminal gangs.

Tens of thousands of Central American migrants pass through Mexico every year to try to reach the US and find work.

And now it appears they are about to be raped in America, too

This is how the MSM build the general picture.

There are too many people in Mexico? So, Mexican government wants to get rid of them?

Too many people in the world?

"Migrants in Mexico are facing a major human rights crisis leaving them with virtually no access to justice, fearing reprisals and deportation if they complain of abuses," said Rupert Knox, who contributed to the report, Invisible Victims: Migrants on the Move.

"Persistent failure by the authorities to tackle abuses carried out against irregular migrants has made their journey through Mexico one of the most dangerous in the world," he added.

Grupo Beta, a government initiative started in 1991, operates in northern and southern border states, offering advice and humanitarian aid to migrants.

However, it lacks the necessary funding and authority to adequately support the constant stream of migrants heading north, according to Amnesty.

Lack of funding? Lack of authority?

I remember, how it was pictured in that film "Apocalypto". The story begins when a group of hunters meets another group of miserably looking people (refugees) migrating through their territory. Then, the real cause of their misery arrives and destroys the idyll...

The "cause" which does have the necessary funding (coming from drug dealing) and the authority (consequently, coming from funding)...

We have a "translation" here, from addiction to work to addiction to drugs - both are means of acquiring profit, only they tend to replace each other and can hardly coexist.

The "victims", however, are the same - workers or junkies = refugees. They can be ab-"used" for other things, too. (Try bar-dancing, lap-dancing, screaming and bleeding).

reply posted on 28-4-2010 @ 10:38 AM by vBreezo

reply to post by thebulldog

Yes - Repeal the anti-drug prohibition laws to make recreational drugs legal - under the same licensing / taxing / controls that are used for liquor. The repeal of the alcohol prohibition put a big dent in organized crime; legalizing MJ would have the same effect on the Mexican smugglers.

R-von

reply posted on 30-4-2010 @ 11:25 PM by zzombie