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All Roads Lead to Rome

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posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 11:47 AM
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The New Beginning towards a One World Empire in 2033



Since the beginning of the 21st century, we were told that 2012 could be the '' end of the world '' Boohoo''
.

It really look like a massive campaign of terror. What will happen in 2012 is not imo, the first question we should ask our self. Why TPTB want to brainwash us to be freightened about 2012, could it be for conditioning our minds to accept as inevitable what ever could happen in 2012... to avoid us to be awared that it's TPTB that prepared man made desasters and events to make us fall into chaos.

2000-2013 is what i would call '' the sabotage period '' an interval of time to destroy the old world order and global balance with the aim of establishing a New World Order.

Before 2000, the world economy was following the 10-15 years rollercoaster up and down chart but in general it was reliable and fonctional, now lets see what happen since January 2000.

( 1 ) 2000, The Millennium bug

The millennium bug caused enormous cost to the small businesses and governments, Billions.... which purchased compliant equipment. These costs have destroyed many firms. The multinationals will get a greater share when smaller firms disappear. Multinationals made great profits from the millennium bug in computer related equipment sales. Some believe that the millennium bug could have been be deliberately rigged to also force world population to buy computers and get online for control and surveillance over the mass.

( 2 ) 2001, September 11 False Flag attack

How much did the September 11 terrorist attack cost America? Counting the value of lives lost as well as property damage and lost production of goods and services, losses already exceed $100 billion. Including the loss in stock market wealth -- the market's own estimate arising from expectations of lower corporate profits and higher discount rates for economic volatility -- the price tag approaches $2 trillion. and the Fall of global markets is incalculable....

( 3 ) 2003 Wars ( Irak - Afganistan - Egypt - Libya and next Syria and Iran... )

click here for Total Cost of Wars Since 2001

( 4 ) 2005 counting the cost of Katrina

Insurers reckon Hurricane Katrina will turn out to be the costliest US storm in history, 108 Billion, overtaking the $21bn of insured losses inflicted by Hurricane Andrew in 1992.

Oil shock, more than 91% of oil production and 83% of gas production in the Gulf of Mexico region has been shut down because of damage to rigs and refineries caused by the hurricane. Flooded oil refineries have led to rises in gasoline prices The region is an important energy hub and normally makes up a quarter of US oil and gas production.

World oil prices were already riding high because of increased demand, but Katrina's devastation has added an old-fashioned supply shock of the kind that sent prices rocketing in 1974, 1979 and 1990. Hight Oil prices hurt badly the economy.

( 5 ) 2008 Crash

The financial crisis reportedly cost each U.S. household $104,350, a figure that includes lost income, government bailouts, and value losses in homes and stocks it's an attack on world economy..


( 6 ) 2009 H1N1

vaccination program and the public campaign creat fear, insecurity and Billions in cost...

( 7 ) 2010 Deepwater Horizon oil spill

The oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico has now cost BP $1.25bn (£870m), as its much-criticised chief executive vows to spend "what it takes" to fix the Deepwater Horizon disaster that has caused growing anger across America.

( 2011 ) Wars again and maybe more until the end of the year..., a fear of a second Great Depression,

After all these, Against all odds crisis, i concluded that TPTB definatly prepared something for 2012 , they not only used the Maya calender hoax, Rome's Prophecy of the Popes seems to was orchestrated to accure in 2012. if we ear that the pope is sick in 2012 well that will mean, Peter the Roman will be next.... and real catastrophic chaos will begin and only few will understand that there is nothing prophetic about all this, it was all designed by ROME to lead us into another World Order, a New World Order where ROME will have even more control over world population that will survive....

2012 – The Final Economic Collapse - Click here

A Financial Crisis in 2012 is Inevitable! Here’s Why - Click here

A Financial Crisis in 2012 vt today - Click here






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posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 11:55 AM
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The treaty of paris is very interesting indeed, i do think that ROME used its Legions: France, England and Spain, all three accomplices, working hand in hand secretly to conquer and colonize the New World for the Roman Empire.

Xuenchen is better then me on that subject and Proto was the specialist about it and how TPTB / ROME fooled the world but i'll try to find more about it and i will post it with the rest of my 2013 article. I still have alot about 2012 and all the suprises that ROME prepared for the world, to help their agenda to get the world into a New World Order. i am still getting it all together and ready to post, so later today, when it will be ready, i will try to add also what i will find about the treaty of Paris...



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posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 01:45 PM
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It seems to me that The Treaty "allowed" for debts to be paid back somehow.

debts we still may be paying.

silence is golden they say.

The British retained many "rights" also?

It's what is NOT in the treaty that may be the long term damage.

How can we explain the fact that the new USA did not issue money right away?

Spanish dollars and British pounds were used long after the treaty.




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posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 02:06 PM
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Originally posted by mick1423
. . .Peter the Roman will be next . . .


I am Peter the Roman, the resurrected prophet of the Most High, St. John the Baptist, whom Jesus Christ calls "the Elias who was to come", enjoying the rapture of Christ's love as your ultimate, penultimate authority.



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 02:28 PM
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Originally posted by Edward Palamar

Originally posted by mick1423
. . .Peter the Roman will be next . . .


I am Peter the Roman, the resurrected prophet of the Most High, St. John the Baptist, whom Jesus Christ calls "the Elias who was to come", enjoying the rapture of Christ's love as your ultimate, penultimate authority.



and,

where do you tend bar?



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 02:41 PM
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Of course, "The Crown" relinquished control and claims.

but perhaps not individuals and corporations considered "loyalists".

That's how "they" retained wealth.

Silence and question marks are golden.


some points of interest;

•The provisions of the debtors on both sides paying the creditors on both sides, were recognized.

•The Congress Confederation "earnestly recommended" the State Legislature to recognize the rightful owners of the lands and properties that had been confiscated and settle all kinds of property issues with the Loyalists.

•Access to the Mississippi were permitted for both the countries.

•Subsequent to the Treaty, all the territories that were captured by the Americans, were to be returned without any kind of compensation.


so we have "loyalist" property and perhaps corporations still alive and breathing.

"loyalists" held a lot of property and stock in the name of Rothschild (pseudo names).

Corporations were retained.

The Treaty does not provide for stock ownership transfers (that I know of).

Not many wars have ended this way.

British investment continued as usual.



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 03:01 PM
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The Second Charter of Virginia May 23, 1609

What happened to the Virginia Company in the Treaty?

The stockholders still had the stock?


JAMES, by the Grace of God, King of England, Scotland, France and Ireland, Defender of the Faith, &c. To all, to whom these Presents shall come, Greeting. WHEREAS, at the humble Suit and Request of sundry our loving and well-disposed Subjects, intending to deduce a Colony, and to make Habitation and Plantation of sundry our People in that Part of America, commonly called VIRGINIA, and other Parts and Territories in America, either appertaining unto Us, or which are not actually possessed of any Christian Prince or People, within certain Bounds and Regions, We have formerly, by our Letters-patents, bearing Date the tenth Day of April, in the fourth Year of our Reign of England, France, and Ireland, and of Scotland the nine and thirtieth, GRANTED to Sir Thomas Gates, Sir George Somers, and others, for the more speedy Accomplishment of the said Plantation and Habitation that they should divide themselves into two Colonies (the one consisting of divers Knights, Gentlemen, Merchants, and others, of our City of London, called the FIRST COLONY; And the other consisting of divers Knights, Gentlemen, and others, of our Cities of Bristol, Exeter, and Town of Plimouth, and other Places, called the SECOND COLONY). And have yielded and granted in any and sundry Privileges and Liberties to each Colony, for their quiet settling and good Government therein, as by the said Letters patents more at large appeareth:

Now, forasmuch as divers and sundry of our loving Subjects, as well Adventurers, as Planters, of the said first Colony, which have already engaged themselves in furthering the Business of the said Colony and Plantation, and do further intend, by the Assistance of Almighty God, to prosecute the same to a happy End, have of late been humble Suitors unto Us, that (in Respect of their great Charges and the Adventure of many of their Lives, which they have hazarded in the said Discovery and Plantation of the said Country) We should be pleased to grant them a further Enlargement and Explanation of the said Grant, Privileges, and Liberties, and that such Counsellors, and other Officers, may be appointed amongst them, to manage and direct their Affairs, as are willing and ready to adventure with them, as also whose Dwellings are not so far remote from the City of London, but they may, at convenient Times, be ready at Hand, to give their Advice and Assistance, upon all Occasions requisite.

We greatly affecting the effectual Prosecution and happy success of the said Plantation, and commending their good desires therein, for their further Encouragement in accomplishing so excellent a Work, much pleasing to God, and profitable to our Kingdom, do of our especial Grace, and certain Knowledge, and mere Motion, for Us, our Heirs, and Successors, GIVE, GRANT, and CONFIRM, to our trusty and well beloved Subjects.....



Jeeeesh .. those guys were a bit long winded i would say

They must have had the best Jewish lawyers of the times



The list of names is mind boggling !

Were the stockholders at the time of the Treaty considered loyalists?

many were.

Who owns it now?



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 05:55 PM
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"After all these, Against all odds crisis, i concluded that TPTB definatly prepared something for 2012 , they not only used the Maya calender hoax, Rome's Prophecy of the Popes seems to was orchestrated to accure in 2012. if we ear that the pope is sick in 2012 well that will mean, Peter the Roman will be next.... and real catastrophic chaos will begin and only few will understand that there is nothing prophetic about all this, it was all designed by ROME to lead us into another World Order, a New World Order where ROME will have even more control over world population that will survive...."


on this point...thought you guys should know there is a very real chance ROME was sailing around and founded Brazil itself in 300s when christianity was formed. amazing read but what if rome was seeding the false prophecies with other cultures much sooner than we thought. queaztocol takes on a whole new meaning.



www.nytimes.com... from 1985!!!!!!

also, think about it



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 05:59 PM
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so what are you saying ? all the crown corporations/trusts, etc doing business in america got all their money or claims back as loyalists?

and life went on?



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 06:05 PM
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the question is how did the treaty of paris affect all these original charters and corporations set up 100 years before

lol

did anything really change? treaty implies the crown would lose all claim but yet get missisipi access, get its loyalists back to even and get their l ands back

so technically there is a real chance the crown just went underground sorta and kept on using its trust/corporations, etc already in existence in the usa. perhaps they changed company names, etc

wow..fascinating



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 06:19 PM
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Originally posted by SuperTripps
reply to post by xuenchen
 


so what are you saying ? all the crown corporations/trusts, etc doing business in america got all their money or claims back as loyalists?

and life went on?



that's what the treaty says and,

That's the generally accepted interpretation.

There were also other foreign companies here too.



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 06:50 PM
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Originally posted by SuperTripps
reply to post by xuenchen
 


the question is how did the treaty of paris affect all these original charters and corporations set up 100 years before

lol

did anything really change? treaty implies the crown would lose all claim but yet get missisipi access, get its loyalists back to even and get their l ands back

so technically there is a real chance the crown just went underground sorta and kept on using its trust/corporations, etc already in existence in the usa. perhaps they changed company names, etc

wow..fascinating




[color=limegreen]"the question is how did the treaty of paris affect all these original charters and corporations set up 100 years before"

Actually, it didn't affect them ..... only some names changed and some stock transferred upon sales and deaths.
Corporations live on, regardless of who dies.

"claims" were never really defined in the Treaty were they?

The land "claims" were all sold to corporations, not directly to the "Crown"
The Vatican is a stockholder in the corps.
The Crown is a stockholder in the corps.
The "claims" were never really "claims"

So of course the Crown was more than happy to "relinquish control and claims" since none really existed anyway

The Corporations had the "claims'" and "control" not the "Crown".....
Sound familiar?
Welcome to the USA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The joke was on WHO?

Like I said "silence is golden".

The "Crown" just sat back and and rubbed butts with the Vatican.
The Rothschilds loli-gagged all the way to the ice cream shoppe.

In the meantime, how much money has transferred back to London since 1783 ?
Hint: investment banks
Hint: USA and FED bailouts and loans still happening 200+ years later.

The joke was on WHO?


Keep in mind also that the USA never issued currency until later either.
Did they really just forget to do that?


What does all that tell you.


The real name is:

The UKnighted States of America.
(rumor has it that ben franklin got the spelling changed on grounds of public confusion)



en.wikipedia.org...

en.wikipedia.org...


Fugio Cent 1787

Mind Your business


Go back further in time and you will get to Rome.

next assignment is to find out WHO invented corporations.

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posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 07:12 PM
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continued comment:

in contrast for comparison;

substitute Hugo Chavez, Fidel Castro, or even Karl Marx in place of George Washington.

NOW, have a revolution.

NOW, "nationalize" all the Corporations.

NOW what do we have? and what may be the real difference (hint: if any) ?


I wonder too, how many of all the Founding Fathers had stock or "special interests" in those old corporations ?

I wonder if those guys had Lobbyists

(hint: Ben Franklin)

p.s.
most of this info came from old paper essays and manuscripts that i have seen.
all were written by college students many years ago.
none are on the internet as far as i know.
most are handwritten in pencil.
most are faded and hard to read, and don't scan very well.



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 07:58 PM
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I can tell you're socially underage.



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 08:04 PM
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Originally posted by Edward Palamar
reply to post by xuenchen
 
I can tell you're socially underage.




[slow deep inhale ..... fast exhale]

Jesus

it was a joke ... I apologize.

tell me something i don't know.

besides that, don't you know who I am?


relax, it's another joke.

what do think about the English corporation theories?

are they still here?

you seem smart, your ideas are welcome


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posted on Oct, 29 2011 @ 05:21 PM
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Originally posted by SuperTripps


"After all these, Against all odds crisis, i concluded that TPTB definatly prepared something for 2012 , they not only used the Maya calender hoax, Rome's Prophecy of the Popes seems to was orchestrated to accure in 2012. if we ear that the pope is sick in 2012 well that will mean, Peter the Roman will be next.... and real catastrophic chaos will begin and only few will understand that there is nothing prophetic about all this, it was all designed by ROME to lead us into another World Order, a New World Order where ROME will have even more control over world population that will survive...."


on this point...thought you guys should know there is a very real chance ROME was sailing around and founded Brazil itself in 300s when christianity was formed. amazing read but what if rome was seeding the false prophecies with other cultures much sooner than we thought. queaztocol takes on a whole new meaning.



www.nytimes.com... from 1985!!!!!!

also, think about it



The possibility of a Roman ship being in S. America lends creditability to the Vatican having maps prior to 1492.

Many think that Rome aquired some evidence from the Library of Alexandria....

Probably from Julius Caesar playing with Cleopatra VII.

The "Phoenicians" and real ancient trade routes existed before Rome.



posted on Oct, 31 2011 @ 06:20 PM
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as i've pointed out before...they most definitely had trade routes/old maps before 1492

that's why i posed this brazil thing...I did a load of research on the Hooked X/Templar/Columbus/Viking stuff and they've tried to not talk about that for many decades

to think rome was sailing to south america in 300s is also an uncomfortable possibility

i'm not saying they were mapping stuff back then but they could have explored enough and spread their wings to the natives who passed on stuff in legends

pretty interesting how crystal skulls are meeting in LA on 11-11-11...and there are 13 of them



posted on Oct, 31 2011 @ 07:41 PM
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Originally posted by SuperTripps
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as i've pointed out before...they most definitely had trade routes/old maps before 1492

that's why i posed this brazil thing...I did a load of research on the Hooked X/Templar/Columbus/Viking stuff and they've tried to not talk about that for many decades

to think rome was sailing to south america in 300s is also an uncomfortable possibility

i'm not saying they were mapping stuff back then but they could have explored enough and spread their wings to the natives who passed on stuff in legends

pretty interesting how crystal skulls are meeting in LA on 11-11-11...and there are 13 of them



Most likely they were mapping back then, however crude by today's standards.

If the "Phoenicians" were trading all over the place thousands of years ago, they had maps.

The ancient Chinese had maps.

They've suppressed these things for many centuries let alone decades.


Your theory about Columbus going to Newport has Merritt.

There in fact may have been regular on-going trade (pre-Columbian) between Newport and northern Europe.

English "dove" translates to "colombe" in French

Italian = "colombo"

Latin = "columbae"

Hmmmm?

Also lends some credibility to the whole "Columbus" name being a postdiction and/or eponymous metaphor.

The Vatican is very very secretive as we know ! and very "creative".



posted on Nov, 1 2011 @ 03:11 PM
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One theory I have seen is that Spain was in fact present in Newport prior to 1492 in a merchant/trade capacity.

The idea touched upon the possibility that the North American East Coast was explored and the Islands south of Florida discovered that way.

Trade routes existed between "Indian" tribes present for thousands of years.

Gold was abundant, and probably not a monetary tool.

Events in Europe and Africa between England and France contributed to Spain's advancments.

Ports were established in the islands before 1492 and trade existed between merchants and "Indian" traders from mainland Central and South America, and the Southeast North American tribes.

The 1492 expedtion was the military beginning of colonization, not the original "discovery".



posted on Nov, 2 2011 @ 06:44 PM
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if you don't mind..please post any connections/history regarding the phoenicians and how this all relates

Yes, i think its possible Columbus came to Newport...or at least stopped there...to check out/on the land claims or potential harbor/trade routes he was married into the SINCLAIR family(templar viking/norman) and inherited MAPS....

he just happens to go to the west indies (missed china, yeah right) and then the west indies, newport, and west africa becomes the 'golden triangle" of import/export of slaves, rum, etc years later.

as you know, wealthy so called illuminati families like Astors and others had their summer homes in Newport as well

i don't know if you know this..but a major TALL SHIPS festival comes back to Newport often.
www.rhodeislandbaycruises.com...

some traditions die slow i guess



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