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All Roads Lead to Rome

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posted on Sep, 9 2011 @ 03:17 PM
reply to post by SayonaraJupiter

isn't it Fascinating how All Roads Lead to Rome ...

edit on 9-9-2011 by mick1423 because: (no reason given)

posted on Sep, 10 2011 @ 08:02 PM
this article has some interesting points about Columbus.

(IF that was even his real name)

Columbus Q & A

Things like name changes, birthplace, landing sites, etc. put forth some heavy questions.

The logbook is also called into question !

Its almost like Columbus and the famous voyage of 1492 may have been fabricated.

Does not surprise me.

To read Columbus's daily log (diario de a bordo) you would think that his small fleet was never very far from land. For 32 days after leaving Gomera in the Canary Islands on September 9th, the diario makes repeated reference to signs of land. Sailing in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean, more than 1,000 miles from the nearest land, Columbus observed "river weed" (sargassum seaweed), a live crab "not found more than 80 leagues (240 miles) from land," a booby or gannet, birds that "do not depart more than 20 leagues from land," and "a large cloud mass, which is a sign of being near land." But it was not until two hours after midnight, the 12th of October, that land finally did appear.

posted on Sep, 11 2011 @ 08:32 PM
reply to post by xuenchen

Your discovery about Christopher Columbus could demonstrate once more how Rome is efficient for manipulating history. The Knights Templar Red Cross featured prominently on the sails of his ships is a secret symbol to declare that Rome owned the New World. The so called universal classic world history is a pack of intricate lies. The most biggest hoax and part of world history, is with out a doubt from Rome, more specifically from the Roman Catholic Church...

After the Great Revolt of 66 A.D. when the Romans Destroy the Temple of Jerusalem, The Roman Empire began to realized the power of monotheistic faith on the population over Roman polytheism . First Rome tried to destroy this religion by persecuting the jewish population, but like a virus, monotheism spread and gained popularity.

Rome finally realized that monotheism was undestroyable at the time of Constantine the Great, so Rome began to tampered with history and created a Roman monotheist Religion to compete with Judaism. Rome stole most of Judaist principles, Romanize it and created Catholicism.

Rome needed a powerful image for its new religion so they used the image of a charismatic preacher, no one in particully but at that time there was many freak street preachers with attention seeking behavior so it made the Jesus hoax a credible marketing Icon...

Since then, Rome did all it can to harm the Jewish people to make the competing religion look less credible, powerful and popular than Catholism and not anymore a threat to the Empire. isaakland demonstrated somewhere in this thread, that zionism was created by Rome to dilute the original jewish root and to be use as a secret Roman Legion for the New World Order Agenda.

Our history is in reality, filled with Rome's mind control programs, to control and keep us in a prison planet world. Our past, present and futur...Rome design our world like a Great Architect of the Universe...

Jesus...The Roman God who wasn't there..! or should i say...that never existed..!

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posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 05:14 PM

remember bill cooper? remember they shot him to death?

fast forward past 9 mins and listen


posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 10:02 PM
reply to post by SuperTripps

All Roads of investigation about TPTB Leads to Ancient Rome..!

Bill cooper knew for sure and some other conspiracy theorists too but TPTB always found a way to derail or hide investigations one way or another. I think Proto when even deeper in the rabbit hole. He went closer to the Inner core and decoded even more the grid of power that control the world.

Bill Cooper said the Roman Empire became the Catholic church and the Pope are the Emperor but there is where Bill Cooper like some other miss by few the bullseye.

Proto said that The Ancient Roman Empire hide, behind the Catholic church and many other powerful organisations. Hidden in the background, as a secret society, the Empire rule the world using all its Legions and the catholic church is only one of them.

Since Gaius Julius Caesar, the empire organized and structured its power to let the heir of Julius Caesar rule the world from behind the curtain as a secret society of the Roman Empire. Some use to call this secret society the Illuminati, we now call it TPTB, this secret organisation hidden in plain sight is the ruler of the Roman Empire. We can now identify many of the Empire's Legions that structure the secret society.

The Bilderberg, the Club of Rome, The United Nations, CFR, Zionism, Bohemian Grove, catholic church and many countries, organisations and secret societies. They are all Roman Legions,. Just like Julius Caesar when he secretlly ruled the empire from Seborga, now the world is ruled from the shadow by those Legions under the orders of the direct heirs of Julius Caesar.

Who is or are Julius Caesar 's Heirs today at the top of the piramid...i don't know, some said it's an elite group and the number one who have a defined time mandate always changes but who exaclly are those powerful elites....unless Proto come back to tell us, we will have to find it by our self...and i think and beleive that every day here, we are getting closer and closer to find it..!

posted on Sep, 17 2011 @ 07:39 PM
reply to post by mick1423

i think proto's post inferences the julius caesar heirs ,and the direct descendants of those original Knights ( anglos/normans ) as well as the Hebrew elite the ultimate folks behind the curtain

the last 2 i had been coming too on my own anyway

posted on Sep, 17 2011 @ 08:41 PM
It's possible that Julius Caesar had "shadow" children with the Merchant Class,

possibly "Hebrew" (Merchant Class, Phoenician).

Cleopatra VII was part "Jewish", descended from merchant Class.
He may have had shadow children with her as part of the plan between powers of the day.
I believe he did have at least one acknowledged with her.

A system of "shadow" governments may have been present already.

Caesar may have had children in Britain as well....that opens many doors !

Have some essay info on these theories......need to dig them up !

posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 06:46 PM
reply to post by SuperTripps

I think that the direct descendants as you said, are direct or adopted bloodline of Julius Caesar, the '' Chosen Ones.'' Augustus Caesar was Taped, chosen by Julius Caesar. Tiberius was adopted by Augustus, (Tiberius Julius Caesar Augustus ) Chosen ones, are the shadow heir of Julius Caesar. Secret Societies' tape Ritual is probably a symbol of Caesar adopted heir..

I think the Roman Empire survived and became a super power because it succeeded to adapt and evoluate. The Empire always found a way to be one step ahead of the mass, so the population accepted to be ruled or simply wasn't awared of being manipulated and controled.

I think the 313 first years of the Empire were a period of major adaptation, the Empire went throughout many crisis in this period and it is Constantine that forged the empire's destiny with the second New World Order, which consisted to moved the military force of the Empire, out of Rome to the east, to help Rome to control the empire using a new weapon...a new Religion, Christianity...!

Augustus Romulus Caesar was supposedly, the last Roman Emperor but strangely his name was a symbole of 3 of the greatest Roman figures who founded the Roman Empire, and coincidence..., later.., the Roman territory of the north, Britain, with the legend of Excalibur ( Caesar's sword ) became a super power with another powerful Roman territory... constantinople on the east part of the Empire.

This third New World Order was at the end of the 5th century when Rome greatest strategy consisted to fooled the world with the fall of the empire, to let the Power of Rome became a shadow power, ( just like Julius Caesar did after he woke up on March 22 '' 322 '' in Seborga in 44 BC ) hidden behind all Roman Legions, to more efficiently control the Roman conquest and follow its destiny to one day become a One Wolrd Empire...!

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posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 04:54 PM
Is alex jone's a knight templar/knight of ROME?

oh my

these people are infiltrated everywhere

but are they on the good side or bad side?

check out his new background SYMBOLS

posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 07:54 PM

Originally posted by SuperTripps
reply to post by mick1423

and why does columbus totally miss america and hits the west indies....

which years later becomes a huge slave/rum running port in the golden triangle connecting back up to..wait for it...

Newport, RI

you know...this piece of work i posted before that is a round church/cupola/tholos shape used thoughout the world today

many believe this newport tower was built by henry sinclair...on a templar/cisterian trip to the new world around 1400

verrazano came back in 1500s to check in on Newport and mapped out coastline, hmm think he had the templar flags too

its very liberating once you KNOW the truth...
i'm telling you..its all connected with the idea of ROME and the idea of the Templars

there are maybe 5 people who have ever read this whole thread..who actually get it

dove= columbus in french

columbus's mission was to set up a port for a drug/crop/slave run up to newport..which was already founded

posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 08:58 PM
reply to post by xuenchen

or even more likely he DID go to New England....and he was the templar who built the Newport tower and solidified it as the right port..and then fabricated the west indies journey/or perhaps they did go but was not from original point of derpature folks think

posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 09:02 PM
reply to post by mick1423

so you are saying you don't believe JESUS is real..and the hebrew/jewish bloodlines are BS...that its really the ROMAN bloodline story even though lots were tapped, not via bloodlines?

also there is still no proof of this: just like Julius Caesar did after he woke up on March 22 '' 322 '' in Seborga in 44 BC )

posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 12:10 AM

Hidden in Plain Sight...

The All Seeing Eye of ROME !

Proto explained that Julius Caesar was born in 100 BCE to an elite family, and from an early age had the benifit of high education and training. Gaius Julius Caesar's family traced its lineage back to the kings of Rome, Romulus and through Aeneas of Troy, so i search Wikipedia about Aeneas and found the complet family tree up to Zeus/Jupiter The God of Gods..! Here is the link, click here...

The secret historical event of Julius Caesar in Seborga is without a doubt, Proto's most fascinating discovery but he also gave us clues about TPTB when he told us that the Roman Empire went into the shadow after Romulus Augustus Caesar.

The Roman Monarchy became a secret power, a secret society, to continue from the shadow to rule and expend the Empire until today.

The All Seeing Eye was often in the past associated with several secret societies but Proto told us that all those secret societies were in reality Legions of the most powerful secret society of the world, which was called by conspiracy theorists, Illuminati...TPTB...but now we know its real identity...The Roman Empire.

The All Seeing Eye is the symbol of The Great Architect of the World, the secret Cabal that designed, our history, our present and our futur. Hidden in Plain Sight the secret Roman Empire symbol is not only all over churchs of the world but in countries and organisations' culture all over the world...

Chigi chapel in ROME

The Basilica di Santa Aria Maggiore in ROME

The Oldest Cathedral in Europe: Aachen Cathedral

From world wide, we can also reconise in this picture below, well known movie posters, corporation's Logos, important buildings and sculptures, Artists, Atletes and many powerful icons...!

All Roads Lead to ROME.....!
and It's by working all together... that we will succeed to win back our liberty..!

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posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 03:51 AM
I actually forgot about this thread, It's one of my favorites
We need an "ATS Greatest Hits" (Pun intended) forum.

posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 11:31 AM
OK so its been awhile but thought I might put a find in here ..
This link to vid is long but has lots of good stuff inside it ...a good piece of investigation ....peace

posted on Oct, 2 2011 @ 12:58 PM
Would like to add this short radio piece from Jordan Maxwell and Alex jones from a few years ago

His take along with the vatican/ROME thing---which is close to many on this thread:

Hanseatic League

Tuetonic Knights (templar)

posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 10:43 PM
I think this is honestly one of the most important threads on this website.
There's some really important info in here

posted on Oct, 23 2011 @ 10:34 AM
reply to post by SuperTripps

would like to post this up here since it relates to the whole thread

for those who don't know..LONDON has a tiny sovereign state in the city and a mayor different than the real mayor

like dc, the vatican, etc

see his comments on OWS

posted on Oct, 23 2011 @ 12:00 PM

Originally posted by SuperTripps
reply to post by SuperTripps

would like to post this up here since it relates to the whole thread

for those who don't know..LONDON has a tiny sovereign state in the city and a mayor different than the real mayor

like dc, the vatican, etc

see his comments on OWS

The City State of Washington D.C. has had its' moments also, as has The Vatican.

The Golden Triangle.

has anyone done any research on the distances between each City State and how it may relate to Masonic geometry?

The former Mayor of D.C. got away with much

D.C. (and Georgetown?) had governors also.

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posted on Oct, 24 2011 @ 08:34 AM
Very interesting ...i found this about '' The City '' (An excerpt from the book by E.C. Knuth)

"The City" is an international financial oligarchy and is perhaps the most arbitrary and absolute form of government in the world. This international financial oligarchy uses the allegoric "Crown" as its symbol of power and has its headquarters in the ancient City of London, an area of 677 acres; which strangely in all the vast expanse of the 443,455 acres of Metropolitan London alone is not under the jurisdiction of the Metropolitan Police, but has its own private force of about 2,000 men, while its night population is under 9,000.

This tiny area of a little over one square mile has in it the giant Bank of England, a privately owned institution; which as is further elaborated hereinafter is not subject to regulation by the British Parliament, and is in effect a sovereign world power. Within the City are located also the Stock Exchange and many institutions of world-wide scope. The City carries on its business of local government with a fanciful display of pompous medieval ceremony and with its officers attired in grotesque ancient costumes. Its voting power is vested in secret guilds with names of long extinct crafts such as the Mercers, Grocers, Fishmongers, Skinners, Vintners, etc. All this trivial pomp and absurdity and horse-play seems to serve very well to blind the eyes of the public to the big things going on behind the scenes; for the late Vincent Cartwright Vickers, once Deputy-Lieutenant of this City, a director of the great British armament firm of Vickers, Ltd., and a director of the Bank of England from 1910 to 1919, in his "Economic Tribulation" published 1940, lays the wars of the world on the door-step of the City.

That the British people and the British Parliament have little to say in the foreign affairs of the British Empire, and that the people of the British Empire must fight when International Finance and the City blow the trumpet, appears from the paean of praise of America by Andrew Carnegie, "Triumphant Democracy," published in 1886 by that American super-industrialist and British newspaper publisher, in the following words: "My American readers may not be aware of the fact that, while in Britain an act of Parliament is necessary before works for a supply of water or a mile of railway can be constructed, six or seven men can plunge the nation into war, or, what is perhaps equally disastrous, commit it to entangling alliances without consulting Parliament at all. This is the most pernicious, palpable effect flowing from the monarchial theory, for these men do this in 'the king's Name,' who is in theory still a real monarch, although in reality only a convenient puppet, to be used by the cabinet at pleasure to suit their own needs."

Edwin J. Clapp, Professor of Economics at New York University, in his "Economic Aspects Of The War" published in 1915, developed the utterly boundless authority assumed by the "Crown" in its commands to the nations of the world through its "Order-in-Council," used without restraint and without reference to existing usage or so-called International law, by making new International Law to fit any situation, as required.

The Balance of Power is a creation of this financial oligarchy and its purposes are as follows:
(1) To divide the nations of Europe into two antagonistic camps of nearly equal military weight, so as to retain for Britain itself the power to sway a decision either way.

(2) To make the leading and potentially most dangerous military power the particular prey of British suppression and to have the second strongest power on the other side. To subsidize the "Most Favored Nations" with financial investments, and to permit them to acquire political advantages under the beneficent protection of the Sea-Power, to the disadvantage and at the expense of the nations being suppressed.

(3) To subject the continent of Europe to the "Policy of Encirclement" so as to keep the nations of the continent in poverty and ineffectiveness, and thereby prevent the growth of sufficient commercial expansion and wealth to create a rival sea-power.

(4) To retain that complete control and hegemony over all the seas of the world, which was acquired by defeating the allied fleets of its only real rivals, France and Spain, in 1805; and which is artfully and subtly called "The Freedom of the Seas."

(5) To shift this Balance of Power as required so as to be able to strike down friend or foe in the rapidly shifting scene of world power politics, in that inexorable ideology that demands that everything and anything must be sacrificed where the future welfare and expansion to the eventual destiny of the Empire are affected; that eventual destiny outlined by its proponents as the eventual control of All the lands, and All the peoples, of All the world.

Henry Makow also wrote about it.

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