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All Roads Lead to Rome

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posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 10:33 PM
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....anyone have any other information on it? Who took him? Who was he? Heard from again? Why was he taken?


Hard to tell, in a tyrannic community, TPTB not only makes activist disappeared they also often try to demolish their hideout and they forbid anyone to talk about the expelled one who was chosen to be sacrificed as a exemple to destroy the anti-NWO activist movement.

Who control the information control the present, Who controls the past controls the future Who controls the present, controls the past...

If George Orwell were alive today, he would be astounded, but not by the fact that so many of his predictions came true. The fact that there is at least one television for every person in the United States would not surprise him, of course. The presence of televisions in airports, rail and bus terminals, and even subway stations would also be expected. The lack of two-way interactive television would puzzle him, though he might correctly assume that the technology was being developed. What would really stump him is the total absence of coercion. "Where are the thought police?" he would ask, confused. Nothing could possibly prepare Orwell for the enthusiasm with which Americans embrace Big Brother. Truncheons are rarely required, and sudden disappearances are almost unheard of. Complete, voluntary conformity to the ideals displayed on television is observed. Instead of Double-Think, No-Think. Instead of the Ministry of Truth, a corporate media system. Instead of the Party, a liberal elite who actually believe that they are free. Freedom is American, and Americans are truly free, in a limited sense, free to consume. Human rights are reduced to freedom of choice. McDonald's and Burger King, Nirvana and Pearl Jam, Democrats and Republicans, the choices are all without meaning.

Why did the Soviet empire fail, while the American empire survives? Because mind control under freedom is more efficient! There's no need to waste money torturing dissidents. Fears of nakedness and excrement are instilled during infancy, and are soon followed by strict gender roles. The boys practice competition, aggression, and conquest, while the girls wear dresses and learn to play house with dolls. The schools teach that what is unmeasurable does not exist. Fear of the unknown becomes fear of life, and death. The student is encouraged to regard those beneath him with contempt, and those above him with envy; success is measured in terms of winners and losers. Sophisticated advertising carefully reinforces the desired belief system. "The one who dies with the most toys wins," reads a popular bumper sticker. So long as the flow of merchandise is uninterrupted, law and order prevail. In Orwell's world, dissent led to Room 101. In America, dissent is merely ignored, or sold, if it's popular.

One of Orwell's great maxims was that control of the present enables control of the past, which in turn controls the future. But here there is no need for armies of bureaucrats revising old newspapers, adapting history to the changing party line. In America, the present is controlled by reducing the attention span. The invention of television wasn't enough by itself. It was the introduction of the hand-held remote that finished the job. Before the seventies, people had to get up from their chairs to change the channel. Laziness was an extremely powerful deterrent. People might watch the same channel for an hour, or more! In the age of remote control, concentration drops steadily. The attention span of the average adult now approaches thirty seconds, by coincidence the duration of a typical advertisement. Among teenagers and children, attention spans reach single digits, as they become synchronized to the pulsating hypnosis of MTV. When the attention span finally reaches zero, there is no past, and no future, only the endless, instantaneous gratification of the present.

Ancient military strategy says "divide and conquer." Where have humans been more completely divided than in America? Land once occupied by the same tribes for thousands of years is paved over, to become cities and sprawling suburbs. How many of the inhabitants will know their neighbors? Citizenship becomes a series of numbers in computer systems. Deaths and births are recorded, and taxes paid, by mail. Leaders are selected anonymously, in tiny booths, from lists of names. How many citizens know their leaders personally, or have even met them? How can a society that never interacts be expected to select its leaders? Youth is worshipped, and the elders, once the most respected members of society, are banished to "nursing homes." They die miserable deaths of loneliness and boredom, abandoned by their "families." Wisdom cannot survive where there is no one to remember it. In the ultimate triumph of individualism, even the family is atomized. Single mothers are commonplace, and children are entrusted to institutions at the earliest possible age. Americans become a nation of orphans, with no allegiance to anything but themselves. Complete alienation makes them ruthless, and thirsty for power. "Everybody wants to rule the world," goes the popular song.

The fourth Key of the Tarot is Heh, The Emperor. He signifies reason, and sight. In the age of reason, technology eliminates the senses, one by one, leaving only sight, the most detached, impersonal, "objective" sense. Smells are eliminated with deodorants and climate control. Taste and touch turn into commodities, to be marketed. The universal acceptance of the telephone substitutes the disembodied voice for physical presence. The advent of computers completes the sterilization: communication is reduced to words on a flickering screen. To avoid misunderstandings, it becomes necessary to introduce a system for representing sarcasm on computer networks, using combinations of punctuation known as "smileys." In the words of computer guru Paul Hoffman, "the Internet offers a great deal of anonymity, but weakens the social bond between the people using it." Welcome to the so-called "cyberfuture".

Orwell's two-way telescreens become widely available, hooked up through telephone lines to every imaginable service. Americans no longer have to leave their living rooms, let alone their houses. Every conceivable need is satisfied, at the click of a mouse. Viewers are able to project themselves into "virtual reality" and interact with their entertainment programming. Elaborate games promote a state of permanent masturbation, in which selfishness, domination, and violence have no consequences. For a species without a past, there can be no consequences, no sense of responsibility. Without continuity, and rootedness, the future makes no sense. Without hope, humans become like a swarm of locusts, scouring the earth from their living rooms, destroying their host. The native Americans taught that the earth does not belong to man, man belongs to the earth. Their truths die with them, and the world spins out of balance.

To the future or to the past, to a time when men are different from one another and do not live alone--to a time when truth exists and what is done cannot be undone: From the age of uniformity, from the age of solitude, from the age of Big Brother




posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 01:42 AM
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This topic needs some new blood. Working on it now.



posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 11:23 AM
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The Vatican – Mafia – CIA






The end of WW2 brought on another sinister plot.

The Vatican bank would engulf itself in yet another scandal, one that would expose drug running, murder and Mafia financing and money laundering.

The “Godfather” of the Vatican Bank, Archbishop Paul Marcinkus; President of the Vatican Bank from 1971 through 1989 was originally from the City-State of Chicago, Illinois, more precisely, from Cicero, Illinois.

Cicero is a suburb located a few short miles from downtown Chicago, and shares common boundaries with the infamous City-State.

Cicero, (coincidence ?) carries the namesake for the famous Roman philosopher Marcus Tullius Cicero (b.106 bc, d.43 bc) who coincidentally lived during the time of Julius Caesar.

Cicero was the headquarters for the infamous Mafia gangster Al Capone, and even today is a hotspot of Federal investigations that have resulted in arrests, indictments and convictions of some of the area’s most influential Mafia figures over the decades since Al Capone reigned supreme.

Chicago insiders referred to Archbishop Paul Marcinkus as Paul “The Marker” Marcinkus. The nickname was “coined” during His early days before, during, and after attending Archbishop Quigley Preparatory Seminary and St. Mary of the Lake Seminary. Paul was ordained to the priesthood for the Archdiocese of Chicago on May 3, 1947, and served parish assignments with both St. Christina's and Holy Cross church on the city's far south side. By 1949, he had been appointed to the archdiocese's matrimonial tribunal, which processed applications to have marriages annulled. Paul “The Marker” was recruited by the Mafia when he was a teenager, and was involved in local street rackets and loan sharking. The fact that Paul Marcinkus was not Italian made Him the perfect candidate for “church” work, as many Italian Mafia chieftains did not condone direct illegal activities within the Church by other Italians. In 1950, Paul “The Marker” was summoned to Rome, a far bridge to cross. And cross He did!

With the ascension of Pope Paul VI to the papacy, Marcinkus became the prime English translator, also helping handle the arrangements for the pontiff's overseas trips. In addition, his height and muscular build enabled him to serve as a bodyguard for Paul VI, earning him the nickname, "The Gorilla."

On January 6, 1969, he was ordained to the episcopate as Titular Archbishop of Horta and Secretary of the Roman Curia. His ferocious protection of the Pope was in evidence two months later when he refused to allow Secret Service agents to be present during a private audience between the Pontiff and U.S. President Richard Nixon, saying, "I'll give you 60 seconds to get out of here or you can explain to the President why the Pope could not see him today”. They say those words got Him promoted to Vatican Bank President!



Vatican Bankster

Marcinkus was the president of the Istituto per le Opere di Religione, also known as the Vatican Bank, from 1971 to 1989. As early as April 24, 1973, Marcinkus was questioned in his Vatican office by federal prosecutor William Aronwald and Bill Lynch, head of the Organized Crime and Racketeering Section of the United States Department of Justice, about his involvement in the delivery of $14.5 million US worth of counterfeit bonds to the Vatican in July 1971, part of a total request of $950 million US worth stated in a letter on Vatican notepaper.

His name and the official letter had arisen during the investigation of an international gang, who eventually served twelve years in prison. Marcinkus "said he considered the charges against him serious but not based enough on fact that he would violate the Vatican Bank's confidentiality to defend himself. ...back in the States it was agreed on the highest levels that the case against Marcinkus could not be pursued any further."

In July 1982, Marcinkus was implicated in financial scandals being reported on the front pages of newspapers and magazines throughout Europe, particularly the collapse of the Banco Ambrosiano, in which Propaganda Due (aka "P2"), a masonic lodge, was involved (Marcinkus had been a director of Ambrosiano Overseas, based in Nassau, Bahamas, and had been involved with Ambrosiano's chairman, financier Roberto Calvi, for a number of years). He was also involved with Michele Sindona, who had links with the Mafia.



Many details are contained in the links below.

Many questions remain unanswered to this day.

Do we dare ask more ?

en.wikipedia.org...

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www.rense.com...

www.rense.com...

www.cathnews.com...


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posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 08:06 PM
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Originally posted by Isaacland
[...]

Who control the information control the present, Who controls the past controls the future Who controls the present, controls the past...

[...]

To the future or to the past, to a time when men are different from one another and do not live alone--to a time when truth exists and what is done cannot be undone: From the age of uniformity, from the age of solitude, from the age of Big Brother


Isaacland, a truly brilliant post. I had to delete almost all of it in the reply since it was so long, I didn't want to get dinged for overquoting. So much in it where I can say, "Yes, yes, you got it."

AV



posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 02:09 AM
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Originally posted by xuenchen

The Vatican – Mafia – CIA



Finally got back to read this. Fascinating info. There was a short documentary on the escape route used by SS officers after Germany collapsed in defeat. There was well-researched proof that Catholic priests helped these SS officers escape.

It's amazing how the Vatican can survive so much scandal. Yet there are how many devoted Catholics who look upon the Pope as God's rep on planet Earth?

Another thing about Fox News struck me again today: there is a strong Catholic presence on Fox News. And of course, Fox is VERY Pro-Zionist.

AV



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posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 09:15 AM
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link to removed quote:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

this post is critical to my post above !

it serves as pre-information.



posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 12:33 PM
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Originally posted by AuranVector

Originally posted by xuenchen

The Vatican – Mafia – CIA



Another thing about Fox News struck me again today: there is a strong Catholic presence on Fox News. And of course, Fox is VERY Pro-Zionist.

AV


of course !

the MSM has to appeal to everybody in order to keep up their image as well as their deceptions !

the Main Stream Advertisers demand their products and services be available to all walks of life.

its good business ya know !

the pro-Christian voter block is a valuable asset to all political parties, as are all religious groups....

the ads with the biggest budgets dictate policy !



posted on Jun, 16 2011 @ 12:56 PM
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Very interesting my friend, the Vatican seems to have played an very important role during WW2. Now that we know the Vatican is a Legion of the secret Roman Empire it all makes sens. No doubts The Vatican – Mafia – CIA are interlinked and Legions of Rome.

ProtoplasmicTraveler OP about WW2 is indeed very interesting, was it all planned? Strangely like it was all planned, WW2 brought the United Nation and the creation of the Zionist Israel two major Chess pieces on the NWO's Grand Chessboard.


True Jews Speaking Out Against Zionists in Israel

www.youtube.com...
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posted on Jun, 17 2011 @ 11:33 AM
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For everyone who still thinks that Jews control the world and havn't understood yet that Judaism is not Zionism, here is a good video of '' Real Jews '' protesting against Israel.

Zionism was created by Rome with the help of Theodor Herzl, an assimilated Jew, a traitor corrupted by TPTB ' ROME '

All Real Jews want to live in peace and harmony with the world population. Help us get rid of Zionism.

Thank You



Rome sent his pope to visite the roman republic of Israel www.signsinthesun.com...


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posted on Jun, 17 2011 @ 11:53 AM
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Originally posted by Isaacland
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Very interesting my friend, the Vatican seems to have played an very important role during WW2. Now that we know the Vatican is a Legion of the secret Roman Empire it all makes sens. No doubts The Vatican – Mafia – CIA are interlinked and Legions of Rome.

WW2 brought the United Nation and the creation of the Zionist Israel two major Chess pieces on the NWO's Grand Chessboard.


yes, WW2 changed the chessboard indeed !

a few pieces got "taken off" the board to allow 2 others to advance towards the "king" !

those 2 have been advancing in tandem ever since !

i wonder if TPTB will ever "move" them off the board ?



posted on Jun, 17 2011 @ 04:22 PM
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In my opinion, i don't think Rome will hesitate to sacrify one of its Legion, if it could help Rome's Empire. Rome did it in the past. Israel was first a strategic option and it's possible that it will be destroy during the next Great War ( WW3 ). Zionist citizens are mostly used and maybe they will pay with their lives for havn't followed the True teachings of the Torah.


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posted on Jun, 19 2011 @ 08:14 AM
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Income from “commerce” was frowned upon by Roman Senators !

Late Republic (approx. 1st – 2nd century b.c.)



www.livius.org...
It was not easy to become a senator. One needed a lot of money from respectable sources (agriculture, not commerce), had to be popular among the voters if one wanted to be elected, and needed connections. People from families that had already produced senators of consular rank had large advantages. Still, the Senate was officially never a closed body, and there were always new men who rose to the senatorial elite.
In the second century, the Roman elite slowly started to change. People of senatorial families preferred to marry their sons and daughters to the boys and girls of the best families in Rome, which were -of course- also senatorial families. As a result, an elite developed within the elite: the new elite of senatorial families, and the other, wealthy families, which still called themselves equites, "knights", an old name. For them, the taboo on commercial incomes was less rigid than it was for senators, and they often invested money in tax farming companies. As a result, tensions arose between an elite of magistrates and an elite of bankers.


"money from respectable sources (agriculture, not commerce)"

i wonder why money from "commerce" was frowned upon ? Perhaps to keep the Merchant/Business class in a better "cloaked" position ? Hidden bribery ? Theory / anti-Theory ? Hmmm...



posted on Jun, 19 2011 @ 08:30 AM
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Well that's fascinating, reminds me of mother-ship earth
papercastlepress.com...



posted on Jun, 19 2011 @ 08:34 AM
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An example of a "Roman Abandonment" in recent times is the decline of communism by way of the fall of the Soviet Union.

The communist stronghold was viewed by many as a Zionist "anti-theory" to establish enemies of free-economics aka capialism.

The fall led the way for a massive expansion by the NGO cartels and established "new" colonizations via the central banks. Many "new" nations were established with borders that resembled many "old" nations, only this time, they got a new concept - central banking !

Exploits included natural resources and greatly enhanced the "globalization" agendas.

We can expect to see "Mao" (China) style communism follow the same paths.

For Israel ? we shall see ..... maybe the entire region becomes a new "union" of nations ?



posted on Jun, 19 2011 @ 08:38 AM
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Originally posted by Stormdancer777
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Well that's fascinating, reminds me of mother-ship earth
papercastlepress.com...


it does look similar....

i wonder if the artists looked there first !



posted on Jun, 19 2011 @ 09:44 AM
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Roman Calendar time difference ?

Varronian Chronology



The Romans did not have a common era like we have. Instead, they called their years after the two supreme magistrates, the consuls. The year that corresponds to our 59 BCE was known to them as 'the year in which Gaius Julius Caesar and Marcus Calpurnius Bibulus were consuls'. As long as one had a list of magistrates, one could date all past events. Using a similar list, we are able to convert Roman year names to our year numbers.

Originally, the pontifex maximus was responsible for the maintenance of the official version of this list, which was published at the end of the second century BCE. However, there are two problems, which are usually ignored by modern historians.

The Roman year did not start on 1 January, but on 1 September (in the fifth century) or 1 July (in the fourth century). A Roman year name should after conversion have two elements (e.g., '300/299'), not one ('300'). If it has only one element, it is almost certainly inaccurate.
The list seems to be incomplete. Probably, four couples of consuls are missing. This is the main problem.
A third chronological problem may be mentioned in passing. Because of the irregular intercalation of months, exact dates mentioned in our sources do not correspond with our calendar dates. For example, the poet Ennius writes that 'the moon blocked out the sun in darkness on June's fifth day', which is a description of the solar eclipse on 21 June 400 BCE.



WELL !

how do we know for sure what year something happened ??

does this mean all of history is dated wrong ?

www.livius.org...

and just WHO started the B.C. and A.D. system anyway ?



posted on Jun, 19 2011 @ 04:16 PM
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Before AD/BC were used, Christian scribes either marked time from creation (or the birth of Adam or even Abraham) or from the ruling powers



First, it should be observed that AD/BC did not come into vogue until well into the fifteenth century, though by the ninth century AD was fairly popular (without an accompanying BC). As early as the sixteenth century, “AD,” “Christian era,” “common era,” and “Dionysian era” were all used interchangeably. Thus, it is hardly new to use “common era” for “AD.” In AD 525 (or 525 CE), Dionysius Exiguus invented the anno Domini nomenclature. Two hundred years later, in 731, the Venerable Bede was the first to utilize both AD and BC.


bible.org...


Jesus' birthday and death in question !

www.westarinstitute.org...



Dionysius Exiguus, a monk from Russia who died about 544, was asked by Pope John I to set out the dates for Easter from the years 527 to 626. It seems that the Pope was keen to produce some order in the celebration of Easter. Dionysius decided to begin with what he considered to be the year of Jesus' birth. He chose the year in which Rome had been founded and determined, from the evidence known to him, that Jesus had been born 753 years later. .....

When, in 527, he formalized the date of Jesus' birth, Dionysius put Christmas on the map. Jesus was born, he declared, on December 25 in the Roman year 753. Dionysius then suspended time for a few days, declaring January 1, 754—New Year's day in Rome—as the first year in a new era of world history. .....

His contemporaries claimed that God created the earth on March 25.
It was inconceivable that the son of God could have been in any way imperfect.
Therefore Jesus must have been conceived on March 25.
This meant that he must have been born nine months later—December 25.


some other "mistakes" too,,,,,read the article !

so who's calendar is for real ?

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posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 08:08 AM
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Very interesting xuenchen, more we look around and more we realize that our world is surrounded by Rome's power and so since a verrrryyyyy long time!
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posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 09:43 AM
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Originally posted by xuenchen
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An example of a "Roman Abandonment" in recent times is the decline of communism by way of the fall of the Soviet Union.



i agree, the Soviet Union and the cold war was nothing more then a fear mongering operation. The Russian Bear and the nuclear threat, succeeded to terrified the world and it let Rome achieved a stage toward a NWO.

The Bay of Pigs Invasion was an
unsuccessful action by a CIA-trained force of Cuban exiles to invade southern Cuba, with support and encouragement from the US government, in an attempt to overthrow the Cuban government of Fidel Castro.

When you think about it, if th US really wanted to overthrow the Cuban government of Fidel Castro, it would had been very easy for the US to do so hmmm...! i agree that and since a long time, every major events in history was designed and architeched by TPTB, Rome makes us live in a programmed world.




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