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Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
Wow, PT...when you said this thread was going to have a lot of stuff you weren't joking.
I am halfway through the OP and will comment more later. Your take on why the Apostles founded the religion, and not Christ, is very interesting.
Of course, the one piece of evidence that you need to tie this all together is your source for Caesar living in Seborga after the Ides of March assassination. Without that, the skeptics will not relent.
The thread has a plot turn on the 2nd or 3rd page that will blow your mind!
You don't even know how epic this thread is until you get to why it was really, really published on the 25th of April!
It sure turns out it wasn't for Earth Day!
The 'trinity" you refer to is mind-body-spirit, 0-1-2 (god-man-woman), and left-right-spirit?
The Christian religion is rife with sexual imagery (every single steeple in America represents a phallus).
In esoteric thought, 3 is a magical number representing mankind and his higher order. "God" is our higher self. Each person is composed of a higher self, and a male and female psyche.
Regardless, i have noticed that you have said that it is not about spirituality, but about power. I present that one is the means to the others end.
The spirituality that seems to underlie much of the "secret" societies and the elite of the world is tied to The Mysteries. Francis Bacon is a prototypical examnple of this. Through indoctrination into these beliefs, certain epiphanies and insights are provided which give an advantage. it is the science of reality, religionized.
I believe that many of the numbers "sacred" mreanings were derived from metaphors of each stage of the creation of the philosophers stone (the phoenix, for example, whose story describes the process of how fire, when applied to the base material for the right amount of time, creates a new being altogether. It is the perfect allegory of a transmutation in which fire is a key element.
Serbsta posted a thread earlier about the excessivly long lived kings of the antedeluvian world. Perhaps the "philosophers stone", or "elixir of life" is the key to this? Perhaps this longevity is the whole secret? Perhaps this very idea is what has allowed such a patient approach on the part of Rome.
what if Caesar himself were still alive? what a prospect!!!
Regardless, to ignore the spirituality of the progenitors of Rome is to ignore a key element of from whence they came. The root of the society.
BTW, why would the "Trinity" of cities not be more like "Troy-Greece-Egypt"?
Originally posted by Malevolence
PT, I have been a member of this site for only a couple of weeks but I follow your threads to an extent my wife doesn't like you. I've been waiting for this, so I could show her what kind of vision you portray of our history. I'm sure by now you've gotten an awful lot of bland thank yous but one more won't pop your ego!
Originally posted by undo
reply to post by Dock9
where are you coming up with all of this? where did i accuse anyone of not being something? you don't even know what my take is on the bible? and if you can show me a person in this thread, who was driven slowly insane until they died, i'll believe you.
Robigalia: April 25 A festival intended to protect corn from blight. During Robigalia, in a special grove outside of the city walls, offerings were given to Robiga. Rust coloured dogs and sheep were also sacrificed to him at the 5th milestone along the Via Claudia in order to ask for his help in keeping blight and mildew from entering the city limits.
Originally posted by undo
reply to post by Dock9
yeah i was commenting how when you started your path, the trouble started in earnest. you were attacked, viciously, by a man who claimed to represent God. that's like the big guns there. came at you with a vengeance. i realize women and men and children are attacked every day, but you can really tell the difference if you compare before and after, that's been my experience, anyway
(ANSA) - Rome, May 7 - The Taleban have warned Pope Benedict XVI to help stop alleged attempts to convert Muslims in Afghanistan, in order to prevent ''serious consequences''.
The apparent threat appeared on a Taleban-linked website Thursday after Arab-language network Al Jazeera showed US soldiers in Afghanistan holding copies of the Bible translated into local languages.
''The Islamic Emirate in Afghanistan asks Pope Benedict XVI to act to stop the foolish and irresponsible actions of the crusaders upsetting the feelings of Muslim rebels, without awaiting the consequences of a severe reaction,'' said a Taleban message on the website, alemarah1.org.
''The Taleban forcefully exhort the mujaheddin, scholars and all religious circles to control the activities of the invaders and crusaders, and not allow anyone to preach religions except Islam,'' the message said.
Al Jazeera showed US soldiers in Bagram, not far from Kabul, with a pile of Bibles translated into the two local languages.
The US army subsequently said that ''any form of religious proselytism by troops is prohibited'' and assured that the bibles had been ''confiscated and destroyed''.
Trying to convert Muslims is a crime in Afghanistan and other Islamic countries.
The warning was issued amid mounting protests in Afghanistan against civilian deaths in recent US bombing raids.
It also came on the eve of the the pope's week-long trip to the Holy Land.