Arizona did the right thing!

I'm sorry but people acting out against the immigration law that was placed in Arizona are out right wrong. It is not a racial issue it is an immigration issue. And I would bet that law that passed has nothing racist in it what so ever, as a matter of fact I would almost bet that if it was a black or Hispanic woman that passed the law then it wouldn't be racist. I'm sick of it, i'm tired of white people always being labeled racist over just about anything but it's impossible for any other race to be racist. I think they did the right thing passing that law, theres a lot of messed things going on with drug cartels and drug lords and gangs killing tourists in Mexico. We need to pass laws like this to help prevent that from spreading into America!

It's not an immigration issue, it's a constitutional issue. This authoritarian law will not stand. It unduly targets/burdens LEGAL CITIZENS, that's the issue. It's already been shown in other threads to violate ARIZONA'S constitution.

This issue is straight-up proof that the people (who also support this bill) screaming about the constitution, liberty, and a tyrannical law and order state are utterly full of it. As usual, it will be up to the left and the true libertarians to protect our civil liberties from the authoritarian right-wingers.

Best,
Skunknuts

[edit on 4/24/2010 by skunknuts]

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Yes they sure did do the right thing. It is about thirty years late though.
And all of the things you mentioned about drug cartels and murders
have long spilled over into the states, not just lately. Texas, California,
and New Mexico need to step up to the plate and show some guts
with this bill. And then it needs to spread to every state in the union.

I am sick of paying for all of the freebies that these sponges have
"demanded" of us. Free this, free that, give me, give me, give me.

These people might need to push 9 for spanish from now on. Better
yet, we in America don't need to push ANY button for english.


And don't come here waving some idiotic flag around that doesn't have
stars and stripes on it. And if they had any respect at all for their country's
flag, they wouldn't wear it as a skirt around their waist. Do they do that
in Mexico? Can we go to Mexico and wave the American flag around
like a dirty rag they have made of it? I say bring on the national guard
and get started with cleaning up this country, and do it now.

We can use the billions of dollars these useless slimeballs have mooched
off of us to provide for our own citizens. Feed the poor, decent housing
and jobs. Maybe the American people will have the money to pay for all
the crap that Obama wants to shove down our throats, because, and
believe me, we are all going to need it. Bring home our troops from Iraq
and Afghanistan and put a few thousand of them on the borders and in
the cities. That will send a broad message to these "illegals" to stay on
their side of the border and destroy it and deficate on it all they want.
And take their trash back home with them that they have scattered all
over the desert by the tons. Is that how they respect their own country's
soil? No, because they have no idea what respect means.

And if other posters are on here, don't attack me for what I am saying.
I am talking about the "illegals" that some people don't seem to understand.
I am talking about the ones that come here in the dark of the night and
sleaze their way across the border. If you can come here "legally"
like most immigrants do, then welcome to America. Just quit crapping on
our country and demanding for us to pay you for whatever you demand
today. Have your babies in Mexico and raise them as Mexicans.

Yes AZ did the right thing.
This is the beginning of the healing process.

Originally posted by Violater1
Yes AZ did the right thing.
This is the beginning of the healing process.

I thought you were against abortion? How could aborting the constitution be healing (even if illegal immigration is a tough situation)? It's neither the answer, nor the panacea you all are praying for.

Best,
Skunknuts

[edit on 4/24/2010 by skunknuts]

Hey guys, our boat is sinking. Let's ignore the massive holes and leaks bringing in the water, and instead just start bailing the water out! Clearly the water will realize it can't be in the boat and no more water will come in!

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SKUNKNUTS is right , if you do not see this law for what it really is , you are a uneducated sheep
I hope the mexes burn loot and pillage the state for their attemp to include americans into this law
going after the employers was-is the only way to stop illegal immagration simple as that

This is going to drain Arizonas economy from all the racial profiling lawsuits that are inevitable from this bill...

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I can live with that. So what is the solution? America needs to continue
being informed and woken up. Let's all start bailing out the water and
keep on until the lake is a lot smaller. Good idea.

Originally posted by hippomchippo
This is going to drain Arizonas economy from all the racial profiling lawsuits that are inevitable from this bill...

The moment the first lawsuit is filed, the case is going to a federal court and the law will be repealed for being unconstitutional.

Originally posted by SpectreDC

Originally posted by hippomchippo
This is going to drain Arizonas economy from all the racial profiling lawsuits that are inevitable from this bill...

The moment the first lawsuit is filed, the case is going to a federal court and the law will be repealed for being unconstitutional.

I hope so, i'm opposed to the bill simply because it allows racial profiling, and gives the government even more power over it's citizens.

Originally posted by hippomchippo
This is going to drain Arizonas economy from all the racial profiling lawsuits that are inevitable from this bill...

Not to mention the increase in taxes for added police, as enforcement of this mandate is going to be very expensive and resource consuming (while being very ineffective)...

here is an interesting page I found on Yahoo
that covers a very important question.

"What happens to an American who enters
Mexico illegally?"

answered below

answers.yahoo.com...

So if Mexico does the EXACT same thing, send them back
to the US, why is it not justified to do the same thing here??

If by right thing, you mean extremist pandering to corporate America and tax cheats/slave wage employers/big business, then I would have to agree with your post.

This AZ law is the redheaded love child of Criminal Businesses/Unsavory individuals/Crooked Corporations and Arizona's politicians, born from a drunken eons old love fest wallowing in lobbyists loot.

Originally posted by boondock-saint
here is an interesting page I found on Yahoo
that covers a very important question.

"What happens to an American who enters
Mexico illegally?"

answered below

answers.yahoo.com...

So if Mexico does the EXACT same thing, send them back
to the US, why is it not justified to do the same thing here??

Nobody is saying let's keep all the illegals in America, they're saying that we shouldn't be giving police officers the ability to harass citizens simply because of their race, there are plenty of legal mexicans in america, you know.

[edit on 24-4-2010 by hippomchippo]

Originally posted by skunknuts
as enforcement of this mandate is going to be very expensive and resource consuming (while being very ineffective)...

not a problem if AZ prints it's own money !!!!
after secession of course.

Originally posted by hippomchippo

Originally posted by SpectreDC

Originally posted by hippomchippo
This is going to drain Arizonas economy from all the racial profiling lawsuits that are inevitable from this bill...

The moment the first lawsuit is filed, the case is going to a federal court and the law will be repealed for being unconstitutional.

I hope so, i'm opposed to the bill simply because it allows racial profiling, and gives the government even more power over it's citizens.

It's happened before. Many states on the boarder over the years have tried some form of legislation to focus on the problem. As soon as someone files a lawsuit, usually based on racial profiling, the law is repealed.

The law is unconstitutional on several fronts. It propagates racial profiling, regardless of any effort to curb it. Furthermore, it's a law dealing with foreign affairs; something only the federal government has jurisdiction over.

Historically speaking, the federal government rarely, if ever, has forcibly stopped a bill like this from passing. Mainly because they realize that it will just be sent to federal court sooner or later, and it will be stricken out as unconstitutional. This is inevitable. It's happened several times before and I don't foresee the Obama administration dealing with this personally.

I still can't believe I'm actually supporting the federal government on this.

Originally posted by boondock-saint
here is an interesting page I found on Yahoo
that covers a very important question.

"What happens to an American who enters
Mexico illegally?"

answered below

answers.yahoo.com...

So if Mexico does the EXACT same thing, send them back
to the US, why is it not justified to do the same thing here??

Seriously, you are using Mexican law as a case study? Aren't you always railing about the one world government and how US law is under attack from outside influence. More hypocrisy from the right....

What next, are you going to quote the ADL??

Best,
Skunknuts

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"What happens to an American who enters
Mexico illegally?"

And do you believe Mexico is enforcing this policy? If they were, their wouldn't be OTM's (other than Mexicans) crossing the border.

Originally posted by boondock-saint
here is an interesting page I found on Yahoo
that covers a very important question.

"What happens to an American who enters
Mexico illegally?"

answered below

answers.yahoo.com...

So if Mexico does the EXACT same thing, send them back
to the US, why is it not justified to do the same thing here??

To me, sending them back is like putting the horse back in the barn after the dfoor's been flung open. A bunch of nonsense extra work to do, that only had to be done because someone was careless and allowed the door to be opened in the first place.

For me, the solution always lies within, not from without.

Cut out the source of the problem and go from there. The source being the business that hire illegals (and individuals, and government that gives them welfare).

Villainizing illegals is not an answer. It is wrong.