Originally posted by Crimson_King
So the intention is to draw something against which someone object? That's what you're saying ultimately by claiming it's right to expression and
freedom of saying anything and anyone wants too.
As I thought, you clearly don't understand why this has happened and You've never watched South Park before and seen that they have absolutely
slated and ripped on every religion and depicted Buddha snorting Cocaine and Jesus looking at Porn in the Mohammed episode, But all they did was say
Mohammed's name and this warranted a death threat??
Do you understand what this argument is about?
Are you even talking about this specific argument or are you just rambling about all forms of Censorship and so on?
If this is the case why are organisations like ADL working inside USA who are famous to label anyone anti-semitic and Nazi who says anything against
Jews or holocaust and are then hollered by mainstream media until the person is publicly humiliated and his/her life destroyed? Why no similar art
project against Jews?
Jews are ripped on EVERY
Single week in south park... Numerous episodes have mocked the jews and the Mel gibson one even had Cartman
Leading a nazi style rally... I really don't see how you can have an informed opinion on this when you have NO IDEA what you're talking about and
no idea what South Park is about...
There is no similar "Art Project" about Jews because they did not threaten to kill the creators and network people of the show for just Saying
.... do you understand that?? Can you see how absolutely ridiculous this whole thing is?
Making death threats for saying the name Mohammed....
It's beyond ridiculous.
There is no point in the whole thing. You ultimately want freedom to draw something which offends others but when the table is turned on you, you are
"other artists are doing it so we dont have to"
"this thread is about freedom of expression buy only limited to drawing 1 particular figure"
and why are you suggesting that??? because it offends you and dont want to see those pictures and dont want to accept that drawing those pictures are
also freedom of expression.
The tables are turned on me? What the **** are you talking about?
I'm not religious, Draw whatever pictures you like, mock anyone you like I don't give a crap.... I don't have a problem with your pictures, I just
have a problem with you failing to understand the principle and reasoning behind this "Art Project" as you called it, satirical protest is more
Nothing you posted offends me in terms of a dead Jesus or whatever... I don't care... You're completely misunderstanding what I am supporting here
and why I'm supporting it.
Just stop trying to argue with me, There's nothing to argue about and you can't even understand what has happened and why this is a response to
If the Muslim "religion" consider it derogatory to even depict a living form of Mohd. or watever the name of their God is then the only main reason
to draw is to offend and depict images of their God.
Mohammed was a prophet, Not a god... much like Jesus, and Jesus appears in the Qua'ran many time too... "Their" good is Called Allah... which is
just "Their" word for God... it's the same God as The Jewish God and the Christian God.
No.... South Park never intended to show Mohammed, they were pointing out, through the medium of comedy, that it is a crazy state of affairs when you
can show Buddha doing coke and Jesus surfing Porn, but have to put Mohammed in a bear suit or the back of a van because depictions of him are somehow
banned.... funnily enough they're banned for Muslims, I'm not a Muslim and Neither are the creators of South Park and as a matter of Equality they
should have been able to show him.... not only did they not show him, but they even had to beep his name out?
Similarly Swastika or Seig Heil or Hail Hitler or Nazi regalia is considered derogatory in Jewish religion for watever reasons that is why it is not
allowed to wear that sign/ looked down upon and in many countries there are laws against it. Even in USA anyone who wears that sign is targeted not
only by media but by politicians...organisations.
None of what you're talking about has anything to do with this issue.
People show images of jesus, as you did, as a zombie... hell South Park have Jesus as a regular character.... yet no death threats from Extremist
Please... read up on the matter a little and stop talking about completely unrelated things like swastikas?
It is funny there is so much uproar over this with cries of censorship when just only few days ago someone in USA was charged for possessing cartoon
or porn depicting underage teens. Why was the person charged bcoz' other ppl find it derogatory & dats y its against law lol! So wht abt this
censorship? Heck! we are talking abt censorship on a forum where there are rules about what can be talked about and what cannot be for ex. drugs,
personal consumption, illicit activity, porn etc. Wat about this censorship? Why is it censored?
What are you rambling on about?
This issue is about South Park and Comedy Centrals decision to edit an Episode With Mohammed in it... And now an Artist has decided that someone has
to make a stand and is now Proposing to Run a competition for people and have a "Draw pictures of Mohammed" day.... Please try and stay on topic.
Talk about freedom of expression when u stand up for everything else also otherwise u are only standing up for what u think is right and not for
other's freedom of expression.
I don't think anything is right or wrong, It's about freedom of speech and artistic freedom.
Anyone can have freedom of expression, where am i saying they can't?
[edit on 25/4/10 by blupblup]