reply to post by seagull
The seagull is a great representation of your post. The people, you know those leaders you elected, the soldiers that wear your flag they represent
YOU! Each and every US citizen is represented by the wars you wage in YOUR name, against sovereign nations! So yes each of you has a part in it. And
should have the balls to take the heat for all the suffering you have caused. Pay the cost to be the boss.
While your cynical remarks may seem cute to you, and oh so clever, you have proven the point with arrogance, and don’t even realize it. Those people
represent you, if you don’t like the rep you get from them do something about it.
Your county has killed millions of innocent people, MILLIONS!!
Its ok for you to disrespect a people’s religion, and way of life, but burn a US flag and the whole country wants blood, you’re so hypocritical in
the US.
If someone says you are not the greatest country you spew a pile of steaming horse dung about foreign aid, or how you help this country or that
country when they need it, what a bunch of political donkey crap.
The US is a country of foreigners in a foreign land, so of course you help the country’s most of you came from. Of course you help people for
political gain, the US never helps country that have nothing to offer them, but here you are disrespecting and toying with a war against a billion
people over a foolish cartoon, that I might add was only created because no one watches it (southpark) anymore, its old and crappy and needed a boost
in ratings so some fools could make even more money.
While ill agree that portraying a religious leader is just a sorry excuse for some sick extremist to wage jihad against you. This is just the thing
TPTB need to create a false flag attack, and a major one at that.
You should be careful about starting a war with Islam, while people like Dick Chaney are openly talking about the next great attack that could be gas,
or nukes, or anything that could kill millions, you sheeple play right into the hand that brainwashed you, and are doing it without you even realizing
what you’re doing.
Go ahead get that stick and poke the sleeping dog all you want, but grow a pair and say YEAH I DID!! I poked that F!@#er and he bit my arm off.... so
I killed him good!!!
So freedom of speech is so great ot gives you the right to insult and degrade people yet i dont see to many of you running around droping the "N"
Bomb wonder why that is??? hhmmmm
[edit on 25-4-2010 by humilisunus]
Seattle cartoonist: May 22 is ‘Everybody Draw Mohammed Day’, page 10
reply posted on 25-4-2010 @ 07:52 PM by Illusionsaregrander
reply to post by humilisunus
I personally like the fact that America and many other countries that are founded by European immigrants have laws allowing for freedom of speech and religion.
But lets not forget, many of the countries that are primarily Muslim do not.
The bottom line for me is this, if Islam is so intolerant that the only way it can exist in a country is for it to impinge upon the freedoms of others, using violence and threats of violence to do so, then I am more than willing to poke that dog, as you call it.
I want to be clear here, that I do not believe that ALL, or even MOST Muslims are that intolerant. What I do think is that there is an unfortunate tendency for the most fanatical members of many religions to presume to speak for all the members of that religion.
Hitler said that a great way to over throw a democracy was to use the freedoms and mechanisms of that democracy to raise yourself to power, and then once there, to erode those mechanisms and freedoms around yourself so you cant be unseated.
Fanatical Muslims are not going to come into countries with freedom of speech and freedom of religion, and use those freedoms to impose their ideals and their religion upon the rest of us. I think it is right, and proper that people in these countries with these freedoms are making this very clear.
Freedom of religion means you are free to practice YOUR religion. It means we wont force YOU to draw images of Mohamed. It does not entitle you to expect others of other religions to follow the prescriptions of your faith and then threaten or perpetrate violence to get your way.
I personally like the fact that America and many other countries that are founded by European immigrants have laws allowing for freedom of speech and religion.
But lets not forget, many of the countries that are primarily Muslim do not.
The bottom line for me is this, if Islam is so intolerant that the only way it can exist in a country is for it to impinge upon the freedoms of others, using violence and threats of violence to do so, then I am more than willing to poke that dog, as you call it.
I want to be clear here, that I do not believe that ALL, or even MOST Muslims are that intolerant. What I do think is that there is an unfortunate tendency for the most fanatical members of many religions to presume to speak for all the members of that religion.
Hitler said that a great way to over throw a democracy was to use the freedoms and mechanisms of that democracy to raise yourself to power, and then once there, to erode those mechanisms and freedoms around yourself so you cant be unseated.
Fanatical Muslims are not going to come into countries with freedom of speech and freedom of religion, and use those freedoms to impose their ideals and their religion upon the rest of us. I think it is right, and proper that people in these countries with these freedoms are making this very clear.
Freedom of religion means you are free to practice YOUR religion. It means we wont force YOU to draw images of Mohamed. It does not entitle you to expect others of other religions to follow the prescriptions of your faith and then threaten or perpetrate violence to get your way.
reply posted on 25-4-2010 @ 08:11 PM by jamescar
reply to post by RizeorDie
Just sayin' that you forgot to capitalize the M word, so lookout: off with your head. 2nd line.
Just sayin' that you forgot to capitalize the M word, so lookout: off with your head. 2nd line.
reply posted on 25-4-2010 @ 08:17 PM by humilisunus
reply to post by Illusionsaregrander
While ill agree that the only way to stop this is to plaster these pictures from the ground to the sky until it stops and people realize it’s all BS, I know that freedom of speech means that I agree to listen and hear things that may insult, offend, or disrespect me that’s why to me, it’s the greatest thing man has ever come up with, as a matter of fact, research freedom of speech and you will see that Muslims had a great deal to do with it before the modern world even touched it.
I am an Anti-theist, this means I am against all religions, but I’m also an ex boxer and can see a counter punch coming from the hip. When people are literally beaten to believe something and you go around messing with their ideology be prepared, this world is full of real losers that kill for a dime in a back alley, and some people think dissin a billion people is a fun thing to toy with.
All im saying is, everyone here that posted these pics has just put the lives of the owner and mods in jeopardy without even using the simple minded brains before sucker punching a rather large group of people who really don’t give a sh#t.
edit to add:
Get away from bring religion into our differences, get away from mocking ones beliefs, trinkets, etc. and deal with the issues. You can’t tease, make fun of, intimidate, and hurt those that believe different things, don’t you all understand, your killing a root, when you kill a race. A root of a massive tree, your killing yourselves.
[edit on 25-4-2010 by humilisunus]
While ill agree that the only way to stop this is to plaster these pictures from the ground to the sky until it stops and people realize it’s all BS, I know that freedom of speech means that I agree to listen and hear things that may insult, offend, or disrespect me that’s why to me, it’s the greatest thing man has ever come up with, as a matter of fact, research freedom of speech and you will see that Muslims had a great deal to do with it before the modern world even touched it.
I am an Anti-theist, this means I am against all religions, but I’m also an ex boxer and can see a counter punch coming from the hip. When people are literally beaten to believe something and you go around messing with their ideology be prepared, this world is full of real losers that kill for a dime in a back alley, and some people think dissin a billion people is a fun thing to toy with.
All im saying is, everyone here that posted these pics has just put the lives of the owner and mods in jeopardy without even using the simple minded brains before sucker punching a rather large group of people who really don’t give a sh#t.
edit to add:
Get away from bring religion into our differences, get away from mocking ones beliefs, trinkets, etc. and deal with the issues. You can’t tease, make fun of, intimidate, and hurt those that believe different things, don’t you all understand, your killing a root, when you kill a race. A root of a massive tree, your killing yourselves.
[edit on 25-4-2010 by humilisunus]
reply posted on 25-4-2010 @ 11:11 PM by Illusionsaregrander
reply to post by doctor j and inmate c5779
Where is their respect and concern for our beliefs?
I am amazed at how many people think members of a religion should be allowed to use death threats to force another group of people with their own beliefs and feelings to live as the threateners see fit.
If you want to get a mega phone and go around shouting the N word, more power to you. We actually have idiots who already do that at white power meetings. I am sure they would welcome a new member, and you have that right in this country.
I personally would find it offensive, but unlike the Muslim extremists in this case, I dont think you should die because you upset and offended me.
Edit to add,
I find your position ironic considering your middle signature.
[edit on 25-4-2010 by Illusionsaregrander]
Where is their respect and concern for our beliefs?
I am amazed at how many people think members of a religion should be allowed to use death threats to force another group of people with their own beliefs and feelings to live as the threateners see fit.
If you want to get a mega phone and go around shouting the N word, more power to you. We actually have idiots who already do that at white power meetings. I am sure they would welcome a new member, and you have that right in this country.
I personally would find it offensive, but unlike the Muslim extremists in this case, I dont think you should die because you upset and offended me.
Edit to add,
I find your position ironic considering your middle signature.
[edit on 25-4-2010 by Illusionsaregrander]
reply posted on 26-4-2010 @ 01:36 AM by dalan.
Originally posted by doctor j and inmate c5779
Oh!Em!Gee! Yes! This is gonna be SO awesome! I`ve always wondered when we were gonna stand up as a whole for our rights as a people and grow past this point in evolution where we are so worried about "people`s feelings" < barf! > all the time! Yeah, guys I`m right with you! And after we make our muhammad pics for "everyone draw mohammad and post it on facebook day" we should all go out and buy a megaphone! Why?! Well for the month of February we usually recognise "black history month", so alongside that rememberance I suggest that, in the spirit of free speech we all celebrate "everybody shout the N-word at black people through a megaphone month"! Yeah, that`ll show `em! Try to keep my liberties away from me, will you? Well I don`t think so! C`mon people let`s all show them how to get over it and show em how to have a real good time, like us Americans! We can say whatever we want about whatever we want and it`s perfectly healthy to exercise that right as thoroughly and as often as the desire pops into our Little minds, just as God intended I tell you ! Then we just need to designate days for every other group determined to encroach on our freedom of speech until they all learn to get over it. They`re just words/pictures, etc. right?, I mean, who cares about respecting our neighbors or their "beliefs"? And who cares if they don`t like it? We have bigger bombs and more of em to boot! Yeah it might be easier and we`d all make more friends if we just took time to learn more about eachother, but you all are like me, right? I don`t care about anything more than I do about having thje right to express myself however I wish whenever I wish. I mean, life just isn`t worth living if I can`t do or say whatever I feel like at all times without any concern for anyone else`s feelings, opinions, or beliefs! Ok so you guys are all with me, right? Either it`s ALL OK or none of it is, right?
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What I find the most ironic about your post is the fact that your rant was probably a shot at entertainment such as South Park, a show which you most likely believe was designed to do nothing more than insult people.
Nice use of satire to combat satire.
Satire is commentary on human or individual vices, follies, abuses, or shortcomings are censured by ridicule, derision, burlesque, irony, or other methods, ideally with the intent of improvement;[1] often strictly defined as a literary genre or form, although in practice it can be found in the graphic and performing arts. Although satire is usually meant to be funny, its purpose is often not so much humour for its own sake as an attack on something strongly disapproved by the satirist, using the weapon of wit.
A common feature of satire is strong irony or sarcasm -- "in satire, irony is militant"[2] -- but parody, burlesque, exaggeration, juxtaposition, comparison, analogy, and double entendre are all frequently used in satirical speech and writing. This "militant" irony or sarcasm often professes to approve (or at least accept as natural) the very things the satirist actually wishes to attack.
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Now that is irony.
reply posted on 26-4-2010 @ 01:38 AM by dalan.
reply to post by Illusionsaregrander
I don't think the poster above you was being serious, it seemed more like sarcasm to me.
I don't think the poster above you was being serious, it seemed more like sarcasm to me.
reply posted on 26-4-2010 @ 11:56 AM by Gorman91
reply to post by RizeorDie
Everyone is happy not making fun of muhommad, but not everyone is when they want to. It should be interchangeable. The extreme of not making fun of him is total silence. The only way to break that is the opposite extreme: total disrespect. It's either all free speech or none.
Everyone is happy not making fun of muhommad, but not everyone is when they want to. It should be interchangeable. The extreme of not making fun of him is total silence. The only way to break that is the opposite extreme: total disrespect. It's either all free speech or none.
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