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A Cover-Up of History. Wrong!

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posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 06:41 AM

Ancient tombs explored and denied!

Hiya ATS ladies and gentlemen. Any of you who know me around here know I'm not much into criticism of archaeology or science. That said, when I see something wrong...I call it wrong. It goes for me too! The following story seems to show evidence of an ill-intentioned cover-up of some very interesting sites. If it's true, it pisses me off.

I've been reading about the dolmens and tombs of Northern Europe and discovered this story buried in the news section of Stone Pages. A little more looking and I managed to bring the images of the tomb too...

In Sardinia tombs are being explored and then sealed by boulders and concrete. The people involved deny their discovery and consistently fail to present evidence of these discoveries to academic scrutiny. These wonderful tombs and the art they boast remain preserved from vandalism, but aren't adding anything to the pages of history.

The story has only come to light thanks to a nosy farmer, adventures in nocturnal tomb raiding...and trespassing. The man in question watched curiously as a tomb was excavated next to his land. When he asked the supervising archaeologist, he was told they hadn't found anything. Unwilling to accept that answer, he took a different approach...

He then asked them in Sardinian (a language very different from Italian): "Did the sow give birth to the piglets?" The excavators answered (always in Sardinian): "Yes, and you should see how many and how beautiful they are!" That was the proof that something amazing had been found up the hills in the Tenuta Mariani.
Amazing rock cut tomb in Sardinia

This reply seems to have ignited his curiosity. One night he sneaked across to the site and found a groundsheet covering the entrance...he ventured inside and took these photographs...

Rare black and white checkers pattern

When contacted about the reasons for sealing the tomb, they weren't feeling very chatty. Bluntly...

We have also called Mrs Luisanna Usai, archaeologist of the Soprintendenza per i Beni Archeologici for Sassari and Nuoro provinces and in charge of the Bonorva area. We wanted to know if there is any project to remove the seal to the tomb and to open it to the public, along with the other sites of the necropolis. The archaeologists expressed her point of view quite clearly: "I don't want to spread any word about it. The main aim of the Soprintendenza is to protect those sites; the paintings are faint, so the tomb will remain sealed." She concluded saying: "We are the ones who decide which are the best channels to inform people about this kind of discoveries."
The sealed wonders of Sardinia

As far as I can see, the Sardinian authorities haven't published any of their research. They haven't released images or press releases. We don't know what grave goods have been found in these tombs. What age are the burials? This golden cup is an example of what's been discovered in similar tombs around the Mediterranean and Asia...

posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 10:17 AM
Good find Kandinsky.

Here we are with more spirals. These seem to be screaming some message with them being as large as they are.

I am one who has been unsatisfied with speculations as to their meanings.

Marking of the equinoxes? How could that be in a darken tomb?
Space and Time?
Location of water or snakes?

Look closely at the two spirals. One set is close together, the other set is stretched out. The symbols look like they are trying to point out a difference, a change....?

Why are some spiral symbols single and others double connected to each other. Some are concentric circles, while most are spirals.

King Loki's thread has more spiral pics.
Spirals Everywhere in the Ancient World

Didn't want to distract your topic, but those spirals are huge and there is a message we have yet to solve.

Also, the black and white checkered pattern immediately made me think of the masons.....hmmm what does all this mean?

posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 10:30 AM
To me, it looks like these are the tombs of the builders of Newgrange. Newgrange predates Stonehenge and the "building" of the pyramids.

Here is an image of some of the spirals from newgrange:

Christopher Knight and Robert Lomas would be shocked by these! They tried to trace the freemasons back as far as possible and those checkered ceilings are quite interesting..

As above, so below...

posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 10:59 AM
Wiki has an interesting page on the "Triple Spiral".

"The triple spiral or triskele is a Celtic and pre-Celtic symbol found on a number of Irish Megalithic and Neolithic sites, most notably inside the Newgrange passage tomb, on the entrance stone, and on some of the curbstones surrounding the mound.

Believed by many to be an ancient symbol of pre-Celtic and Celtic beliefs, the triple spiral appears in various forms in pre-Celtic and Celtic art, with the earliest examples having been carved on pre-Celtic stone monuments, and later examples found in the Celtic Christian illuminated manuscripts of Insular art. The triple spiral was possibly the precursor to the later triskele design found in the manuscripts.

What the symbol meant to the pagans who built Newgrange and other monuments is unknown.

In more recent history, Celtic Christians have sometimes used it to represent the Christian Trinity. Neopagan religions such as Celtic Reconstructionist Paganism and Wicca use the symbol to represent a variety of triplicities from their belief systems."

Looking forward to hearing more opinions on this subject. I might do a little more digging myself today!

But we need to keep in mind spirals are found throughout the World. Not just in Newgrange. I've seen them in US and Australia artifacts, and I'm sure there are more. They must have some universal meaning.

[edit on 24-4-2010 by Julie Washington]

posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 11:12 AM
reply to post by Julie Washington

Triple Spiral - Triskele

The triple spiral, or triskelion, is typically considered a Celtic design, but also has been found in some Buddhist writings. It appears in a variety of places as a three-faceted spiral, three interlocking spirals, or other variations of one shape repeated three times. One version is known as the Three Hares triskelion, and features three rabbits interlocked at the ears.

In the Celtic world, the triskele is found carved in Neolithic stones all over Ireland and western Europe. For modern Pagans and Wiccans, it is sometimes adopted to represent the three Celtic realms of earth, sea and sky.

Seems the Pagans and Wiccans have adopted this symbol in more mordern times.

Great find OP ~ S&F

[edit on 24-4-2010 by Aquarius1]

posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 11:26 AM

Originally posted by Kandinsky

In Sardinia tombs are being explored and then sealed by boulders and concrete. The people involved deny their discovery and consistently fail to present evidence of these discoveries to academic scrutiny. These wonderful tombs and the art they boast remain preserved from vandalism, but aren't adding anything to the pages of history.

This right here, disturbs me. Why are these being sealed back up? Are only objects that can fetch money being removed, and then sealed back up to make it look like they are still intact?

This is outrageous, because discoveries like these, should belong to everybody!

posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 11:26 AM

Originally posted by Julie Washington
What the symbol meant to the pagans who built Newgrange and other monuments is unknown.

I think the meaning of the spirals are known, actually.

This can help explain it:

Basically, if you create a slot so light can shine through and you create a "light dagger" to shine onto a wall, if you mark the different days it will draw a spiral. This is something that would be interesting to create.

posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 11:37 AM
Nothing new or odd about this at all. This kind of thing happens all the time when they find something that does not fit the history books. Like finding a PDA in Tut's tomb. And no that has never happened but if something of that scale did happen it would never be know to the world. We really know only a small bit of our history and who knows how much of that is faked.

posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 11:50 AM
reply to post by BeastMaster2012

Great link and great theory. I have read this before and it sounds the most logical of any of the others.

I'm not sure I believe 100% just because of the other different locations and variations of spirals around the world. Perhaps there were different meanings and uses for different spirals....

Excellent link, thanks.

posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 11:56 AM
Hi OP, nice thread,

These have also been found in Sardinia, not sure if they are related -

'domus de janas' - Houses of the Fairies

The shape of grottoes can vary from that of a rounded hut with conical or triangular ceiling. The walls are often decorated with magical reliefs. The corpses, painted with red ochre like the tomb's walls, were buried together with common life objects, jewels and tools

posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 02:05 PM
reply to post by Julie Washington

Nice you just hit the nail on the head IMO. I was thinking the exact same things. I find it troubling how we are always told the spirals are to date the equinox. Sounds like rubbish. And the checkered symbols, very interesting. Great comments here!

posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 02:51 PM
On the last thread that pertained to spirals. I came to the conclusion that the spirals represents space time and that everything is in a cycle. We are all connected. But then I started thinking what if the spirals are time portals. CERN(LHC) looks like a spiral. Well, at least the machine that they built and it is used to create small black holes......the black holes are supposed to be small time portals( I am not making this up-you guys can google and read up CERN). Also our galaxy looks just like a big ole spiral. Einstein said that there is no time. That time is an illusion and if it did exist it would be in the fourth dimension. Time can also bend and bend on itself(relativity of gravity).

posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 03:07 PM
The images remind me of those from by the Wingmakers ... I suspect they are faries.

posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 03:51 PM
reply to post by grantbeed
Thanks for your post...very informative.

Other posters have mentioned the spirals in the tomb...

King Loki's excellent thread on spirals beat me to the punch...I'd planned to post a similar thread a couple of weeks back. The more I read about spirals, the more inconclusive I became. His thread is a better ATS thread than I would've written...

The spirals represent different concepts to different people in different areas at different times. In North America, they've been linked to markers and signposts of water in the area. In Europe, they're linked to solstices, deities and moon/sun worship. Danish passage graves and the Orkney tombs feature the spiral motifs throughout. It's tempting to look for a 'unifying' explanation...I don't think it exists.

At the same time, the spiral is a shape we doodle on pads. It's not always a 'symbol,' sometimes it's just a reflection of distraction.

posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 04:00 PM
reply to post by Kandinsky

I am no expert on what the spirals mean or their significance. They are beautiful though. I would be very interested to find out where they came from and how they fit into history.

As far as archeologists...

Most scientists' careers are based on a very small world. They are specialists within specialties. Any thing which demonstrates a contrary view to that small toe hold in academia is a threat to their livelihood. Not all scientists of course but a healthy percentage.

posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 04:09 PM

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posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 05:14 PM

Originally posted by Jeffdogg
its truly amazing how a person can gather info and put it up to build a little "story" or w/e you think you have going on but not smart enough to put it in the correct place (which would be on aka this site is an alternate news source not a tabloid or a place where someone thinks they can make "their big journalistic break" and get popular with the S&F contest. Its rather ignorant imo..

dude, this is the ancient and lost civilizations board. I know it's hard to believe that people may be interested in history, but it's true. Another interesting thing about history is that we are being lied to about our history. If you can't understand that i would suggest avoiding this board or just avoiding any posts with green text. Sorry we can not talk about aliens, NWO and such 24/7.

posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 05:23 PM
Reminds me a bit of minoan culture from Crete.

They could have settled there too.

posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 05:44 PM
we are the lost civilization
the others are history

posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 06:25 PM

just like the new journalists

now the archeology community wants to play GOD and decide what is best to be known and what is not

amazing right?

we live in a corrupt world, $#$$ is everything, control is $$

I wont say anything more ...

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