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We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
Originally posted by projectvxn
reply to post by Janky Red
No where in the Constitution are illegal immigrants protected. The Constitution applies to all lawfully residing in the US. ++++
And while I don't want to see harsh punishment befall people who enter the country illegally, it would be prudent of us to seek then out and return them home. Many illegals here are working with cartels that murder our own citizens every day. This can no longer stand. At some point we are going to have to demand that Mexico and Mexicans fix their own country. There is no will in Mexico to remove the corruption, to offer all classes of Mexicans a better life. No. Instead the government of Mexico encourages illegal immigration and the people would rather come here and reap our benefits than fixing their own mess.
Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux
reply to post by Janky Red
The only thing the Constitution grants is a limited amount of power to elected and appointed government officials for a limited amount of time. Beyond that, the Constitution grants nothing else and instead acts to prohibit government from trampling over the inherent rights of the people. Inalienable rights can not be granted.
Originally posted by LurkerMan
the interpretation of "inalienable rights" that everybody keeps yapping about only apply to those who signed the declaration of independence.
"we hold these truths to be self evident"
"we" is defined at the bottem where all those signatures are. unless your name appears there then your subject to the interpretation of the founders who signed it. in which case you would be subject to their recognition and definitions of "rights" which would in our case be....you guessed it...law.
they had to declare their independence, and liberate themselves to be able to recognize the inalienable rights of all poeple, therefor they set the standards.
Does anyone see the humor in a city that does not allow citizens the RIGHT to protect themselves to call in the MILITARY to bust heads?
no, only the poeple who signed the document hold those truths to be self evident. isnt that the context its in?
when he says "we" is he not speaking of everybody who signed it? is that not the point of adding your name to it?
im not saying only the ones who signed it have inalienable rights. im saying only the ones who signed it, recognize that everybody has inalienable rights...and everything else it states. is this not so?
we didnt declare our independence like they did. we were born into what they established so are subject to their Governing to secure these rights for all who choose to embrace them. but not on our own standards, the standards of the citizens, less we do like they did and declare our own independence..then we would set our own standards and establishment.
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
in the system established by those who declared it so, we citizens have a say (vote), and anybody not a citizen does not(illegal immagrant). when the poeple vote in legislation and it becomes law, that law is to be unanymously recognized by everybody participating in the estblishment (citizens).
my point is those inalienable rights are offered and applied through the way of the citizens. that way is the legal route and its offered to everybody equally. any other route is not the route established by citizens and therefor not the will of our founding fathers.
once one becomes a citizen by way of the poeple, one gets an equal say in how the future process is offered and applied.
you cant speak until you get your voice. and your either part of "we" or your not.
so to speak your own interpretation of everybodies God given rights would be like declaring your own independence and forfeit your current liberty (set by our founding fathers).
if your not part of "we", then you need to leave "our" bounderies, or be subject to "our" punishments. but your welcome at anytime to join "us". hope that makes more sense, feel free to correct me if im wrong.
Until that time, how can we compete. The wages have been stagnant for 30 years now. I believe the main reason behind that is the Million per year flooding the US each year.