A simple question. Why are crop circles always flawless?

If they were truly made by man you'd think that at least a few of them would contain some sort of imperfection. However I cannot find one picture of a crop circle that has an aesthetic flaw or imprecision on it. Can anyone answer this simple question?

reply to post by genma


here's your answer: you're looking at pictures and not visiting them.

They should still be evident through pics given the size and scope of them

reply to post by genma


my point is you cannot see important details in any photograph.

so you visit hundreds of crop circle websites and notice every picture they post appears to be flawless? gee, i wonder why...

not to mention, you're only going to get apparently perfect circles when you use the method every single crop circle hoaxer has admitted to - utilizing a stake and rope as a compass.

You're kidding right? A stake and compass as tools of perfection? And yes you should see imperfections form aerial photographs. Think of a drawing on a piece of paper - same thing but on a larger scale.

Originally posted by genma
You're kidding right? A stake and compass as tools of perfection? And yes you should see imperfections form aerial photographs. Think of a drawing on a piece of paper - same thing but on a larger scale.

take a compass and use it to draw a circle on a piece of paper.
it will appear flawless and only microscopic examination will reveal it is not. they use a stake and rope to accomplish exactly the same thing, using exactly the same mechanics.

Even looking at pictures of crop circles from above, they do have an admittedly impressive amount of symmetry given their scale. I would think it'd take more than a stake with a rope attached to acheive this, especially considering the wide variety of designs that have been seen.

most pictures are taken from a helicopter quite a distance away. As you get further away you lose detail. So even tho it appears flawless it actually will have a few errors/mistakes.

if i draw a near perfect circle on a paper freehanded and i tell you to look at it from across the road im pretty sure the imperfections will blur out.

I do agree that the designs are elaborate and take a lot of skill to execute but i do not think they are perfect.

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Not ALL of them are flawless. There are SOME hoaxes. However, their is a DISTINCT difference between the REAL ones, and the hoaxes.

reply to post by SpeakerofTruth


I have yet to be convinced there has ever been a real crop circle.

They are a fundamentally flawed concept. To believe there are genuine crop circles requires assuming extraterrestrials wish to communicate with us. If this is the case, why do they decide to carve images that conform to human aesthetics (biiiig flaw there) under cover of night while hiding their presence? If they genuinely wanted to communicate, they would hover over a major city for days on end flashing lights at its inhabitants until local scientists managed to decode the basic patterns and respond.

On the other hand, assuming this is all man made, this is all done in the dark. Either they have very good torches with them or a fantastic sense of direction and placement. A possible helping hand from the moonlight maybe? Until I see someone recreating one of the incredibly intricate patterns, my opinion could go either way.

reply to post by invetro


almost all of these are made well outside cities - where you can actually see a good portion of the stars. under starlight alone you can make your way around (i know this from experience) and once your eyes adapt its almost like walking around under a full moon. everything is crystal clear, it just isn't daylight.

and here's a handful of quite obviously man-made crop circles:

reply to post by JScytale


Is this based on starlight alone? Or is this with the moonlight included? I've always lived in a built up area, so I have no idea what kind of clarity starlight alone would give.

reply to post by invetro


initially you can see decently enough to move around without bumping into things. if you stay with starlight as your only light source for a good 20-30 minutes, you'll be seeing everything with crystal clarity, as if it was a full moon. its like daylight without vivid colors practically.

reply to post by JScytale


Ah, that makes a little more sense, and the examples you posted are proof that man can make these things, but the scale of some of the crop circles I've seen online are astounding, coupled with the oblique angle at which a person would be working, sometimes it looks next to impossible for a few people to have done all that in one night.

reply to post by JScytale


Actually, you are WRONG!!!! A true crop circle will have radioactive activity around it and the grass will be bent, not broke. A man made made crop circle is where the grass will be broke and there is no radioactive activity. Thank ya.

reply to post by SpeakerofTruth


and this is the part where you cite a genuine scientific study backing up your claims.

i'll be waiting.

All those crop circles, and nobody has ever been caught making one, or disturbed half way through, leaving one incomplete.

A stake and a rope, huh?
Don't you thing skeptics would be looking for the hole in the ground the stake made ?

I don't know the answer to this, but there is far more to it than a few practical jokers having some fun.
There is some serious unknown technology at work here.
But the question is who ? and why ?

reply to post by SpeakerofTruth


They are all man made. Crop circles are fun to make it seems. They get scads of people talking and wondering how people were able to do them.

reply to post by SpeakerofTruth


Not true. If that had been the case it would have been easy to separate the two. In an old article the author measured the size of the bend to see if he could discern the difference between what he made and what he thought was a true crop circle. Stalks are not broken. They are bent.