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Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer for President 2012!!!

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posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 04:41 AM
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Originally posted by flightsuit
Earlier today, I heard on the radio the speech that Arizona's governor gave right before she signed the bill into law. She sounded to me like an incredibly stupid woman. From her choice of words to her tone, inflection, and pronunciation, you could just hear the stupidity in her voice. This is a woman who has risen to her level of incompetence and will go no farther. Certainly not to Washington.


funny you should state this

if I remember correctly

GW Bush was the same way

I'm NOT taking up for Dubya,
just giving an example




posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 04:43 AM
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I'm sure Arizona's barely literate, inarticulate Governor will be very popular with the tea-baggers.



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 04:52 AM
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Originally posted by flightsuit
I'm sure Arizona's barely literate, inarticulate Governor will be very popular with the tea-baggers.


geez, this is quite hilarious

do u folks go to school somewhere
where they teach you how to interject
political affiliation into casual conversation?

tea baggers is a moot point
and I am not a tea bagger
and I've heard this from a lot of
posters lately.

Now back to the Governor of AZ.

While she may not be as prominent a statesperson
as Obama is, I do believe what she is trying to do
is for the good of her state.

And just like in the game of baseball

it doesn't really matter how good
your delivery is

it's whether or not your pitch was a strike !!!



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 07:55 AM
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Once again, you overeach to try and make me out to be racist, yet you miss the whole original point.

If you are in a place where there is a majority of people with a certain pigmentation, a majority of crimes will be by people of that pigmentation.

So we can't do anything about any crime if we do not witness it?



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 08:13 AM
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Originally posted by ProjectJimmy


It was immigrants that built your country. Immigrants from my country, from your families countries and every other one in the world.



The difference is that the immigrants of which you speak were legal, as opposed to who we are discussing, which are of the illegal variety.

Apples and oranges.



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 08:19 AM
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Originally posted by flightsuit
Earlier today, I heard on the radio the speech that Arizona's governor gave right before she signed the bill into law. She sounded to me like an incredibly stupid woman. From her choice of words to her tone, inflection, and pronunciation, you could just hear the stupidity in her voice. This is a woman who has risen to her level of incompetence and will go no farther. Certainly not to Washington.


Typical liberal with the personal attacks.

Come back when you have something of substance.



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 08:27 AM
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I have another great idea Brewer might support. Instead of forcing them to keep their immigration papers with them at all times, why not attach a symbol to their clothes and make them wear it 27/4. I dunno what symbol would work best, but we could start by using a "star" and go from there...

If I'm not mistaken, some other famous politician tried a similar awesome move, can't remember where though


Sarcasm aside: This law bears strong resemblance to the Jew star law Hitler passed before WW2. It's based on fear mongering and racism, nothing more, and nothing less. If you support it, you're nothing but a bigot and racist imo. This is NOT a solution!

I think it's hilarious that the same people who are against a national ID card now support this law requiring citizens to keep identification on them at all times. What a bunch of hypocrites!!

[edit on 24-4-2010 by MrXYZ]

[edit on 24-4-2010 by MrXYZ]



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 08:50 AM
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Originally posted by MrXYZ
I think it's hilarious that the same people who are against a national ID card now support this law requiring citizens to keep identification on them at all times. What a bunch of hypocrites!!


Oh, isn't it so true that when you have nothing else to argue with, but you have a "must push through agenda" (you know, like the kind paid shills have), then grasping at straws becomes permissible! Except in this case, you're grasping at invisible straws that don't even exist.

Ever since this one's been driving, which has been quite a few years, I have had to carry my ID, otherwise known as a driver's license- for those of you who just can't seem to argue with logic, and are prone to carry racism cards instead. But unfortunately, racism cards won't be enough for the officer. In fact, I dare you to call the officer a racist when all he wants to know is that:

1) You are licensed to drive
2) You have suitable insurance
and now
3) that you are a legal citizen of the country he is serving.

Seems to make sense to me. Seems simple. Seems uncomplicated. Seems straight to the point. And IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAD THESE FRICKEN LAWS AGES AGO THAT NEVER GET ENFORCED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So put the racist cards away because that officer says "frankly my dear, I just don't give a damn."



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 09:08 AM
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Oh comon', you know that's not the same. If the same rules apply for everyone (like the driver's license) it's ok...but if certain rules only count for people of a certain ethnicity (like this new bill), it's clearly racism.

It's not only about the illegal immigrants, it's also about the millions of legal foreigners who's lives are now being impacted needlessly. If they have to carry their immigration documents, I demand natives have to carry their birth certificate. That would be about equally as stupid.



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 09:19 AM
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Originally posted by MrXYZ
Oh comon', you know that's not the same. If the same rules apply for everyone (like the driver's license) it's ok...but if certain rules only count for people of a certain ethnicity (like this new bill), it's clearly racism.


And the race card again. Pathetic.

First of all, ethnicity does not matter. Question everyone who shows reasonable suspicion.


It's not only about the illegal immigrants, it's also about the millions of legal foreigners who's lives are now being impacted needlessly. If they have to carry their immigration documents, I demand natives have to carry their birth certificate. That would be about equally as stupid.




Hey, smarty pants. You know that thing called a green card? You know . . . the kind legal immigtants have?

They have to be carried around everywhere. Durrr.



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 09:38 AM
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absolutely - one strong leader in my opinion. we use to have a lot of people like here. I have more hope today. thank you. AE



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 09:40 AM
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This may not be the solution they are really wanting.

Perhaps they really want a "Final Solution."



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 10:08 AM
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I support this bill. It almost makes me want to move to arizona. I have a friend that is actually very conservative and four years ago as a frosh in college supported having illegal immigrants providing some support that it helps the economy. Now as a senior with a double major in accounting and finance and just found out he was recently accepted as a T.A for the masters in accounting program he was accepted into, he could not agree more with arizona.

Illegal immigration from mexico is ruining a lot for americans not only as far as jobs, but tax collections and government programs supported by those taxes. Every time an illegal is hired its like sending one more job over seas. A lot of mexican immigrants come here, save just enough money to live on, and mail the rest of the money back to mexico for their families. I don't know about you guys, but I surely do not stand for exporting money. Just look at how many illegal mexicans make up our jail system, our crime rates, our food stamp programs. I'm all for legal immigrants. Most everyone on this site from america knows when their family LEGALLY emigrated here.


 
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posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 10:25 AM
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If you are in a place where there is a majority of people with a certain pigmentation, a majority of crimes will be by people of that pigmentation.


and once again, Hispanics standing in a certain area is not a crime unless someone has a no trespassing sign posted.

You mean to tell me that if a group of hispanics are standing at a bus stop, the cops have the rights to make all of them prove they are here legally just because of reasonable suspicion.

That's a bunch of hogwash.

reply to post by TrueAmerican
 



you have a "must push through agenda"


Trust me, many of us are aware of your push through agenda.



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 12:25 PM
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Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh



But you know what? I do not care if you are brown, black, white, red, or yellow. If you hang out at the Home Depot, Unemployment/Workforce Comission, the Day Labour areas, etc. . . . you need to be checked.

Why?

Because that is where the illegals are.



[edit on 4/23/2010 by Lemon.Fresh]


That makes no sense to me. I have been in unemployment offices many times when I've gotten laid off work. I am a natural born citizen and am Mexican. Does that mean that I should get detained and checked?

I am on the side of having this bill passed. It makes it difficult for me to get a decent job because of all the competiton and the cheap labor afforded by them.

But, I have also been following what you are saying and it does sound a lot like racial profiling. I don't have a Mex. flag on my car nor do I have my last name either, but I have plenty of family members that do, and none of them are illegal. I know where you are getting at with your examples, tho. Don't get me wrong.

I just don't think that I should be going around having to worry that I will get pulled over and questioned because of my skin complexion. Which I also agree with the other guys.

It's a difficult place to be for us Citizen Mexicans. I'm honestly on the fence.

My brain is gonna explode...



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 12:29 PM
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A lot of mexican immigrants come here, save just enough money to live on, and mail the rest of the money back to mexico for their families. I don't know about you guys, but I surely do not stand for exporting money.


A lot...and I mean a LOT...of doctors of middle eastern and Indian (from India...not native americans) decent send a TON of money back to their countries. WAY more then the 10 bucks a week an illegal mexican immigrant is sending home.

THis is a distraction argument that has no fact or weight behind it. Is it against the law to send money to your family in another country??? If it's not...THEN WHY BRING IT UP??? Just to fuel the fire...right? Same reason someone posted a video of Mexicans burning an American flag in MEXICO...that has nothing to do with illegal immigrants...but it sure does fuel the fire. But I can't say they are trying to create more hate towards mexicans in general...because then they say...no...then they CRY that I'm playing the race card.

Well if that isn't your goal...just to fuel the fire...then what is the purpose of bring this up???



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 12:36 PM
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So what part of this law fines or imprisons employers for violating labor laws, or engaging in a conspiracy to avoid present immigration laws?

Oh, that part isn't in there?

So rather than addressing the source of the problem, the employers, she attacks the results of prior criminal behavior rather than enforcing laws she doesn't like that sanction businesspeople?

Sorry, no vote for her here. Like most of her age and economic group, she doesn't seem to have much integrity beyond protecting her own for a profit.

Arizona has always had a soft spot for racism, genocide and corruption: the spirit of the Tucson Ring lives on!



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 01:20 PM
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You accuse me of using the "race card" all you want...but I'm entitled to, because this bill is racist. Dunno about you, but I'm calling things as they are.

If I see an orange, I say "it's orange", and not "it's something between red and yellow".

How can you not be against this bill??? It allows the police to check thousands of people every single day, and most of those who's lives will be disturbed, are gonna be innocent legal immigrants (or tourists, lol). If the bill would require you to carry yet another document, and if it would allow the cops to constantly ask that document from you, you'd be pissed off as well.



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 01:24 PM
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Not only that, but let's not forget the Phillipino and other Asians that do the same thing. They come here, work hard, and send money back home. In many cases, and I know of a few personally, they go back home after working here for x amount of years.



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 01:54 PM
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We definately need more politicians that don't take any BS from other political forces and does what is right for the country and its "Legal" citizens. I have nothing against the hispanic nationality or any other nationality for that matter as long as your are in this country legally. On any given day you can go to the Wal-Mart near me and catch at least 100 illegal aliens at any given time.

The City of Painesville, Ohio is almost entirely hispanic same thing with Ashtabula, Ohio a majority of those hispanic are here illegally and work at many of the farms in the area. The police can do nothing about them being here mainly because they can only hold them for 3 days and it takes INS agents at least 5-7 days to respond and escort them out of the country. I find it funny that Illegal Aliens are complaining about their rights, if your here illegally you have "NO" rights period, your not supposed to be here so here's my opinion on all the "illegal's" complaining about this "STFU and GTFO of my Country"




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