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Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer for President 2012!!!

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posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 08:42 PM
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Originally posted by TrueAmerican
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Ok my dear, then please tell me who you think is a better candidate for President, if you HAD to pick one. Lol, I know they're all corrupt. But at least this lady has actually DONE something about this issue instead of just talk.

And no, I don't think you're mentally challenged!


Now as to some particular other folk around this thread, well, not so sure.


I am Rarely challenged mentally and I sure would enjoy a mental challenge...

DG has a point

Bush did something about the bank failures

Obama did something about healthcare




posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 08:43 PM
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That was not an answer Annee.

How the do you propose we fix the problem?


 
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[edit on 4/23/2010 by Lemon.Fresh]



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 08:46 PM
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Who knows?!

Who in the world knows whats ahead for us? But i'll be damned if i will settle for just anything with an ugly face and bad desicions. (sp)
Or a nice face and bad judgement.

Is there anyone alive who can fit the role of a model president? NO.

PS. I did learn how to build a grass hut, i think i better count on myself.






posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 08:47 PM
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Look a few posts up. There is acouple of examples if reasonable suspicion.


 
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posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 08:49 PM
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Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh
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Look a few posts up. There is acouple of examples if reasonable suspicion.


 
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Um...there are NO examples listed anywhere.



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 08:50 PM
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Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh
Reply to post by Janky Red
 


That was not an answer Anne's.

How the do you propose we fix the problem?


 
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Build a "fence" -

Something physical, invest now, make a bond drive to fund it...

Sound good citrus?



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 08:52 PM
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Well if you don't know who, then what the heck are you arguing for? At least I suggested Brewer.



Ok here, how about Savage exploding on the illegal immigrant issue:




posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 08:53 PM
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There are certain mannerisms that Mexican nationals have. There are also certain mannerisms in their vocabulary.

Those are just two examples. And all those misgivings you have are moot if it is in the course of a traffic stop, which I suspect will case the case.


 
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posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 08:55 PM
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And when the people climb over, burrow under, or otherwise circumvent said fence?


 
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posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 08:56 PM
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Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh
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There are certain mannerisms that Mexican nationals have. There are also certain mannerisms in their vocabulary.

 
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You're still using ambiguous language. What exactly is there that can objectively identify someone as an illegal immigrant. I want exacts here, considering this is a law being enforced and all.



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 08:58 PM
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Where have you been? We are building a fence. You know what the cartels did? They dug under the fence, or set up contraptions to go over the the fence.

Now we are at the real crux of the problem. Everybody wants the problem to stop, but nobody wants to do what is necessary to fix the problem. Amnesty is not a solution, that just makes the problem bigger.

Also this has nothing to do with liberty over security. This is actually enforcing the laws provided by the constitution. No matter what people want to think nobody is losing any liberty over this. Not a single one.



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 09:11 PM
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Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh
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And when the people climb over, burrow under, or otherwise circumvent said fence?


 
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Make a no mans land,
use technology, censers, cameras
Place land mines
Gun turrets
Dogs
Snake pits


use your imagination, we have gone to the moon for christs sake...

But I will tell you it is mighty shortsighted to increase governments powers in this manner, I said the same thing with the patriot act, argued with people just like the ones in this thread... This method is taking the genie out of the bottle, ALL of you should know from experience that these things advance and go beyond the initial purpose.

This would be the first time in this nations history that physical appearance will be
considered PROBABLE CAUSE, legal precedence and some may cut and paste this to???

Terrorists
Enemies of the State
ETC...

AH, EVERYONE

You fear Governmental tyranny and you should fear this on principle-
You underestimate the process of government and seem to be thinking tomorrow,
forgetting about the ever after.



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 09:19 PM
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And lets not forget the attached plates! Oh wait! People of all shades are prone to do this, :shk:



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 09:22 PM
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And when those are circumvented? Then what?



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 09:23 PM
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Originally posted by Light of Night
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Where have you been? We are building a fence. You know what the cartels did? They dug under the fence, or set up contraptions to go over the the fence.

Now we are at the real crux of the problem. Everybody wants the problem to stop, but nobody wants to do what is necessary to fix the problem. Amnesty is not a solution, that just makes the problem bigger.

Also this has nothing to do with liberty over security. This is actually enforcing the laws provided by the constitution. No matter what people want to think nobody is losing any liberty over this. Not a single one.


JESUS man

SAME THING I HEARD, HERE (when certain folks who like this bill) during the build up for the patriot act, fisa, etc...

How did that work, liking the government much?

Changing probably cause to include PHYSICAL APPEARANCE is not a big thing?



Really guys, you are thinking like serfs

Think long term, governmental process and warping...

Ah, a terrorist attack

Right wing Extremist did it!

"OH GOOD, AZ. gives us a legal foothold to stop people based upon appearance to fight TERRORISM!!!"


My god folks-

Tomorrow is not the problem

BTW we CAN build a barrier, a real one, have we really tried, emphasis on tried?

BTW BTW they have ground penetrating radar and a whole host of other things that you cannot imagine.



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 09:26 PM
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Oh my God, and would that be saying "Oye, Papi, ven aca" pssssst....

or carrying a large bag for the stolen goods?


A dead giveaway is walking around Phoenix eating a loaf of French bread. ha ha ha!

A clunky car will always give them away ( arent they the only ones with crappy cars?)

Carrying avocados out of the Safeway is a sure giveaway.

Wow, are the cops going to have their hands full!!!!!



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 09:28 PM
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Originally posted by Janky Red
Well anyhow

AZ. will have fun, they must forget the pride and the activism of these legal folks.

You have never seen a protest or duration like an agitated group of hispanics.

Will be fun -


If the Hispanic vote in AZ comes out in the next election because of Gov. Brewer's action we are almost assured that AZ will go blue. AZ has been trending blue for a while (except for McCain) so maybe for the Democrats this will have a silver lining. It would be great to get out the Hispanic vote in Arizona, IMO.



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 09:30 PM
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Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh
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And when those are circumvented? Then what?



Are you a mentalist?

We haven't even tried

It has been a half assed attempt thus far, technology is 1980's and the man power is underfunded.



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 09:31 PM
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*People loaded into a pick up truck

*A group loitering at Home Depot, the Workforce C omission/Unemployment Office

*Vehicles with a Mexican flag or their names on the back window in Olde English

*People working in a field or day labour.

All of the above provide reasonable suspicion, which is all that is needed, without the dreaded racial profiling.

There are more but you catch my drift.

Are you going to get some people who are not illegal? Sure. You will also get a bunch off innocents being brought in for questioning in robberies, homicides, etc.

Once again, though . . . your PC crap is ridiculous. If an APB goes out on a bank robbery, and the person is described as a black female driving a blue truck, we are not supposed to pull over black females in blue pickup trucks?




posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 09:32 PM
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congratulations Arizona

u should be proud of ur governor.

As a monumental event here
as it seems to be the first state
law that supersedes Federal Law
on the issue. And rightly so, since
Washington won't do a damn thing
about it.

Thank You Arizona

You were the first, but u wont be the last.



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