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posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 07:04 PM
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and note that i guess everyone saw your extreme close relation to the op, so stop meaning difference when obviously you dont say anything different, or meaning confusion with my expression when obviously it is the opposite in forms and means




posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 07:09 PM
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Originally posted by imans
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Confusion about what? What is that insolence to treat another expression being a troll but by giving the definition of troll being yourself?

What if I want to continue my sentence after commas? What is your business there? You can just choose to ignore to read my posts. You know if it hurts your eyes or the comfort you expect while there (I don't know what this means, so it is difficult to correct)

What if I don't want to respond to such stupid questions, even if you beg the whole evening? Like I said in many different posts my expressions mean first freedom exclusively and nothing else but freedom.


My confusion comes from your grammar. I am no troll, unless I am bored, and due to this thread, I am not bored. I am highly entertained. You see, confusion entertains me, because it gives me a puzzle. That is why I continuously go to these non-sense threads.

Respond, don't respond to my questions, I don't care. I am not forcing you to write another way. I am wishing that you would write deferentially for the people who are actually interested to understand. You and the OP may have a good message, but if you don't write correctly, the message is lost.



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 07:13 PM
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Originally posted by imans
Note that I guess everyone saw your extreme close relation to the op. So stop meaning difference when obviously you don't say anything different or meaning confusion with my expression when obviously it is the opposite in forms and means.

I'm sorry if it may insult you to edit your post, but it helps me understand what you are saying. Sadly, I do not understand what you are saying in this. It seems you are saying I agree with the OP.



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 07:18 PM
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again this is your own perspective so keep it to yourself it cannot concern another self reality, and again it prooves how all you mean is to confuse others so you can have any sense of living superiority, it is sick what you insist to do in hypocrit ways

hopefully your message will get across since obviously you are not able to say anything so to pretend juding others messages you are surely totally lost with all your lies

and thank you for telling me that you cant understand what i mean, especially when you are meaning tourmentations having anything positive to say out, it is yourself expectations with your god, i am against the concept of one as i am against stupid writers like you



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 07:19 PM
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TRUST ME, I was trying to help Tormentations. This individual is in my opinion NOT normal by any means judging by the postings on this forum. And my advice goes for you as well. Are you AND her the SAME person?

[edit on 24-4-2010 by Captain_Sense]



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 07:29 PM
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Originally posted by imans
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again this is your own perspective so keep it to yourself it cannot concern another self reality, and again it proves how all you mean is to confuse others so you can have any sense of living superiority, it is sick what you insist to do in hypocrit ways

hopefully your message will get across since obviously you are not able to say anything so to pretend juding others messages you are surely totally lost with all your lies

and thank you for telling me that you cant understand what i mean, especially when you are meaning tourmentations having anything positive to say out, it is yourself expectations with your god, i am against the concept of one as i am against stupid writers like you


What are you talking about? How can you assume I believe in God? How am I confusing others? How am I a hypocrite (which you can't even spell correctly, btw)?

I never even said I believe in the OP considering I can't even understand what he is saying!

Thanks for calling me stupid btw.



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 07:31 PM
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force yourself to respect expressions asthey are, when you mean messages and others to read it, do it yourself you are not others heads what they are reading and understanding nor you are others writers who do totally their free living sense,

assume your expectations being only yours and dont assume that because you mean to follow god commands that everyone is expecting any word from you for fearing god or willing to obey

those fancies of your head young teenager dont concern but yourself and keep away from expressions that obviously have no any common reality with yours



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 07:34 PM
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this is my free spelling way it is not your business how i write words, put that in your head and move on with your silly ship somewhere else where you can relate to objectively



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 07:39 PM
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Originally posted by imans
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force yourself to respect expressions asthey are, when you mean messages and others to read it, do it yourself you are not others heads what they are reading and understanding nor you are others writers who do totally their free living sense,

assume your expectations being only yours and dont assume that because you mean to follow god commands that everyone is expecting any word from you for fearing god or willing to obey

those fancies of your head young teenager dont concern but yourself and keep away from expressions that obviously have no any common reality with yours


1) You are stalking me, knowing my age.

2) I don't believe in God.



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 07:46 PM
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Originally posted by imans
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this is my free spelling way it is not your business how i write words, put that in your head and move on with your silly ship somewhere else where you can relate to objectively


Nice job at talking to yourself.

It is your choice how you want to spell, but if you want to spread a message of some sort, it would be much easier if you could convey it to the reader. I am trying to be as polite as possible.



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 07:49 PM
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The Brothers, or Brethren of the Free Spirit, was a lay Christian movement which flourished in northern Europe in the 13th and 14th Centuries.

en.wikipedia.org...

He's not crazy -- this his is social niche -- just a little "dated" --

www.notbored.org...

www.dhushara.com...

It's about the Marriage to the Holy Spirit:

www.karmel.at...

St. Teresa of Avila
Francis Borgia in 1555 heard her confession and told her that the spirit of God .... hands of John of the Cross, she received the favor of the "spiritual marriage

As for the "I" versus "AM" -- this is obvious.

For example in Advaita Vedanta Ramana Marhashi stressed repeating

I-I-I-I as the practice at the beginning.

All thoughts arise from the I-thought.

But one of the other Advaita teachers claimed the practice should be focused on

"I AM"

Ramana Maharshi said NO this is WRONG.

For example Descartes stated:

I think therefore I AM.

But Descartes never questioned where the "AM" comes from.

See Dan Zahavi's Self-Awareness and Alterity for further details:

www.amazon.com...

In other words there is an "I" before the AM.

This is translated into ratios with I as one and AM as OHM or AMUM -- AMEN -- or 2:3:4 -- the Tai Chi symbol or finally

the LOGOS.

The Pythagorean Tetrad or Logos is the marriage of Socratic self-enquiry (Who Am I?) and Christian-Gnostic-Hellenistic Judiasm (Worship of Sophia as Wisdom). Pythagoras created the word "philosophy" -- the love of wisdom or sophia.

So the Christian Logos from the Gnostic John is to focus on the source of the I-thought as the mystic marriage with the holy spirit.

Whereas the "Am" is based on a closed materialist axiomatic logic from the Vedic philosophers:

"I think therefore I Am" (Descartes) -- or Brahman as "I am that I Am" - the definition of God for the Brahmins in India and the definition of God for Abraham.

This was combined with Babylonian ratio theory geometry to create algebraic geometry as the Greek Miracle -- Plato, Archytas, Eudoxus, Archimedes, etc. And later Descartes, Galileo, Kepler, Newton, etc.

So to align with the mystic Christian Pythagorean tradition bridges into Eastern philosophy -- the source of the I-thought as vichara or logical inference.

The closed axiomatic tradition is modern materialist logic of Western math -- which also comes from the earlier "divide and average" mathematics only is a combination of Babylonian-Chinese-Persian with Egyptian-Vedic math.



[edit on 24-4-2010 by drew hempel]



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 07:52 PM
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you said being under 18 and it is obvious from your level of writing

and if you werent a god believer you wouldnt see in tourmentations expression a positive message to defend, when he clearly meant god and heavens eternal life perspective in god life

maybe you just mean nothing but then like i told you stay in your threads and stop invading others spaces



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 07:56 PM
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Originally posted by imans
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you said being under 18 and it is obvious from your level of writing

and if you werent a god believer you wouldnt see in tourmentations expression a positive message to defend, when he clearly meant god and heavens eternal life perspective in god life

maybe you just mean nothing but then like i told you stay in your threads and stop invading others spaces


This must be a joke. Being under 18 do to my writing! Wow.


Are you saying that I am a God believer?



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 08:01 PM
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hey who is free of his spellings is not talking to himself, it is not for the beauty of spelling that people write words, you are such an insolent teenager, stay out from others words it is not your business and force yourself to your own expressions to justify

and no you are not being polite at all, you cannot force yourself judgment on another just because another writing is there

you cant, when you obviously dont have any common positive share expression to mean there you cannot justify any right to interfer or reply on what another said

words dont give you any right to comment others words, words are objective tools for free subjective expressions use, they are not facts realities to share with others, that is ridiculous and show the level of your mind

try force yourself to see your means in your words so you could find yourself shares in others words to exercise your right to comment correctly



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 08:07 PM
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of course your level of immature self is obvious, what do you think even to anyother teenager i saw a lot much more mature then you in their writings at least

and how many times i have to repeat to your deaf ears and blind eyes, that i NEVER mean to spread a message, only the idea of it i hate it

spread the messages you have yourself but away as possible because i dont see what kind of message you have so i am not intersted to knwo



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 08:12 PM
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Originally posted by imans
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hey who is free of his spellings is not talking to himself, it is not for the beauty of spelling that people write words, you are such an insolent teenager, stay out from others words it is not your business and force yourself to your own expressions to justify



I don't write words for beauty. I write well and literally for the sake of other peoples understanding. Maybe I have a few mistakes here and there, but at least I write for other's understanding.

It is my business when I am interested with what another person has to say about something, and they are trying to convey there message to other people.

One thing I hate is when people show disrespect to me due to my age. If I was any other age, it would not matter, but sense I am below 18 people hold prejudice against me.



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 08:20 PM
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I think this must be to just wind people up. Surely nobody is THAT unintelligible and easily provoked.
imans, what are you really trying to do with all of your nonsensical ramblings and replies to everyone (even replying to yourself)?
You seem to tell everyone that they are wrong--and how dare they even ask for some clarity of thought and speech.
What is the point of consistently incoherent posts??

Are you really just trying to get attention or cause confusion?


[edit on 24/4/2010 by Chamberf=6]



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 08:22 PM
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Originally posted by Chamberf=6
I think this must be to just wind people up. Surely nobody is THAT unintelligible and easily provoked.
imans, what are you really trying to do with all of your nonsensical ramblings and replies to everyone, even yourself?
You seem to tell everyone that they are wrong--and how dare they even ask for some clarity of thought and speech.
What is the point of consistently incoherent posts??

Are you really just trying to get attention or cause confusion?

[edit on 24/4/2010 by Chamberf=6]


I am beginning to think more and more that this is trolling. It is mildly entertaining though.



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 08:27 PM
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you dont understand anything another say, you are fixed at one level of being yourself why dont you be yourself with others selves like you
it is as simple as that

words are not liivings beings to defend them young teenager guy, why dont you go to litterature forum and mean to defend english writings there, here it is philosophy and metaphysics that apparantly you mean nothing about
philosophy and metaphysics mean first a space beyond finite ones wether from metphysical objective perspective or philosophical existentialist at selves ones levels, so no boundaries or rules, only freedom dimension of truth reality,
so you see, maybe that being under 17 yourself disable you to be in a philosophy forum, i know that in school philosophy is not allowed under the age of 18 sorry too bad for you
come back next year maybe we will still be there



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 08:35 PM
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objective perspective or philosophical existentialist at selves ones levels, so no boundaries or rules, only freedom dimension of truth reality
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imans, if you have studied philosophy, then you should know that language and logic are inextricably tied to it. Your grasp on both seems a bit more than "relaxed". Simply throwing together words that relate to philosophy in random order doesn't pass as philosophy.

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