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Bombshell: Silverstein Wanted To Demolish Building 7 On 9/11 *NEW INFO*

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posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 01:50 AM
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I think beyond the banal and preictable denials, the real info to be scrutinized here is the implication that the building (any by extension buildings) was rigged before 9-11 to demolish into its own footprint. Rigged not just by clandestine operations but as an actual mechanism, installed during construction, that even the propery owner had forknowlege of. (which would give a lot of credence to the nuclear demolition theory brought forth by that russian guy *fill in this blank*)

Unless of course ol' Silvy was an operative in the operation itself, in which case he would have advanced warning of improvised explosives. But if he was truly caught unaware and had to contemplate an on the spot decision between 'pulling it' or not, this might suggest the towers had a built in auto destruct mechanism conviniently installed for situations (a situation?) just like this.

If these buildings were built 30 years ago to be destroyed on a certian date for a certain purpose than my mind is officially blown and i yield back to anyone who can navigate this rabbit hole with a little more clarity than me! How deep does this f***er go anyways?

debunkers /yawn




posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 01:57 AM
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What is the flash point of industrial grade aluminum?

Because some type of external heat would have had to gotten hot enough to ignite the aluminum.

Jet Fuel A has a flash point of 100 degrees and a fire point of 110 degrees btw...

Nothing that can come anywhere near hot enough to catch an airplane's aluminum alloy body on fire.

And the resulting crash would have dispersed the aluminum in such a way as to make it extremely difficult for aluminum to reach its flash point.

What the heck, I will look up the flash point myself.

(pause)

So... After a quick google search, I could only find melting points for aluminum alloys.

I would appreciate a link to the flash points and fire points of aluminum alloys.

Here is the link.

My initial thought on this type of issue is that certain safety standards regarding fires and airplanes would be in place to stop a metal alloy like aluminum from actually producing fire.

If the flash point of the aluminum alloy that is used on a plane was low enough for a fire resulting from common materials to ignite it, then that alloy would probably not be used.



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 02:08 AM
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He's definitely talking about the building, it's very clear.

"And we made the decision to pull and we pulled it. And then we watched the building collapse."

But of course people are still going to say this is being taken out of context. If this isn't a confession then I don't know what is... this is probably the best we're going to get, at least for now.

Big
for this thread, S&F



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 02:19 AM
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Silverstien says 'pull it' and a short time later his building falls neatly into its own footprint? Thats about as likely as me shooting myself in the head and falling into my own freshly dug grave while flailing my arms just right as to cover myself in 6f of earth. Just a coincidence, though. Really depends on what the definition of 'it' is though, right? *sly grin*



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 02:26 AM
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(magnesium 5400 degrees f ) not the aluminum itself aluminum just melts the 2% to 3% mag thats in it does the job with alittle 50 psi air or less a had held bellows would work fire itself creates draft or wind do you compredo now. The aluminum would pool in areas that would act like refractorie. Stone ,bricks ,even steel ,iron for awhile.



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 02:35 AM
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Neosurf, you wrote "But if he was truly caught unaware and had to contemplate an on the spot decision between 'pulling it' or not, this might suggest the towers had a built in auto destruct mechanism conviniently installed for situations (a situation?) just like this."

Interesting...They WERE very important buildings. Might they have had a built in auto destruct mechanism as some kind of fail safe like you say?

Larry being caught all unawares would explain why he was so candid on camera. "Oh we just pulled it," he says. He means it. Damn it , it sounds like he means it. He thought it was the normal thing to do. But it's sounds like he knew about it too. That's why he was calling up the insurance company like "please can I blow up my big building now?"



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 02:40 AM
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You have a lot to learn grass hopper . Put a aluminum pop can in a camp fire and watch it burn so pretty and bright . Pop cans are 2 to 3 % aluminum where do you think they get the scrap aluminum to make aircraft aluminum. A aluminum aircraft if under the right conditions almost disapeers once the magnesium flares.



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 02:44 AM
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2 to 3% magnesium aluminum pop cans even big grass hoppers make mistake



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 02:46 AM
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Wouldn't it be odd if two planes really were hijacked at slammed into the two buildings, while on the other side silverstein had WTC 7 rigged for demolition at a future date, and just decided in all of the mess that "NOW" would be a good time to pull it, in some type of financially influenced decision?



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 03:03 AM
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So then are you saying that the same type of aluminum alloy that is used in soda pop cans is used for airplane bodies.

I must say that it is a REALLY bad idea if that is true.

As I said before, I am not aware and would like a link to substantiate these claims.

And if that is true then the official story line concerning the Pentagon is totally contradictory.

Edit to add:

We are discussing building 7,

No plane hit the building.

[edit on 4/24/2010 by Josephus23]

[edit on 4/24/2010 by Josephus23]



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 03:35 AM
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I think this story is correct. I think Silverstein wanted all three buildings demolished prior to 9/11 and that helped tremendously in the selection of the Towers as the false flag site. I remember a story coming out that the Towers needed costly renovations and that they had been a money pit prior. I found an article explaining this scenario:

Silverstein Makes a Huge Profit off of the 9/11 Attacks

This makes much more sense than three buildings, one virtually untouched, were destroyed by two planes. There were other lesser buildings closer to the towers that were largely undamaged by "the collapse". Those buildings did not have the advanced architectural design of building 7.


It was well-known by the city of New York that the WTC was an asbestos bombshell. For years, the Port Authority treated the building like an aging dinosaur, attempting on several occasions to get permits to demolish the building for liability reasons, but being turned down due to the known asbestos problem. Further, it was well-known the only reason the building was still standing until 9/11 was because it was too costly to disassemble the twin towers floor by floor since the Port Authority was prohibited legally from demolishing the buildings. - Arctic Beacon


[edit on 24-4-2010 by Hemisphere]



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 06:15 AM
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Originally posted by RestingInPieces
Wouldn't it be odd if two planes really were hijacked at slammed into the two buildings, while on the other side silverstein had WTC 7 rigged for demolition at a future date, and just decided in all of the mess that "NOW" would be a good time to pull it, in some type of financially influenced decision?



Let's just say all 3 buildings were rigged previously. Due to this new evidence, it certainly appears building 7 was rigged previously, so the WTC towers also could've easily been rigged beforehand.

Kinda throws that argument out the door for debunkers.



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 08:46 AM
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Great post. I wish I could be on an island somewhere with no people around like Weedwhacker. I can not stand stupidity or arguing. My father told me several times to NEVER talk about things I know nothing about, just makes you sound and seem stupid. There is a lot of that on ATS.

As for Silverstein, for those who have watched the "Hidden Empire" also known by it's original DVD name of "The Ring of Power", it is well known the connections of the Jesuits and the world domination plan. Silverstein is a member of that group.

"Pull it"means only one thing. IT is a term used in demolition. That's it.

"It" did not mean the firefighters or anyone else. They are people, "pull the people", "evacuate the building" or any other term would have been used. Silverstein is an idiot and doesn't know how to speak to reporters or news program people. This is obvious as well.



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 09:21 AM
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I apologize in advance and mean no offense, but your arguements carry no weight. I too work in the metal industry. My Uncle works in a steel mill. I am a welder and metal fabricator and have worked in the aerospace field for years.

What you fail to understand is that you must first get the metal UP TO the melting point. The initial fires were not hot enough no long enough to accomplish this. I bring Magnesium chips to camp fies all the time to show people the brilliant white sparks or "light" that comes from it burning. I also bring Titanium shavings as they burn as well.

The mass of the material and the area of impact were not small anough nor concentrated enough to accomplish what you describe, where you worked is different, controlled vats and a heat source concentrated. Big difference.

Silvestein and the others will one day pay for this event. I do not know how or when but "it" will come.



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 11:51 AM
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"Pull IT" = the building

"Pull out" = the firefighters or other people


These are the terms and how theyre used, nothing taken out of context.

This #er knew, and he admitts it publicly



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 11:51 AM
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Since my time at ATS I have avoided 9/11 threads like the plague because I simply don't know enough about architecture and physics to form a solid opinion.

I deviated from 9/11 truth last year for a few months and tried to believe the official story. I couldn't hold out for long because deep down, I know it is bullsh. I have no solid opinion on who did it, I have no solid opinion who wasn't involved but one thing I do know is that the events of that day were unorthodox.

Too many firsts for the official story to be true.

I see many debunkers in complete denial and I see some debunkers admitting that there are holes in the official story but it wasn't an inside job.

Hell, I don't think it was an inside job as such but I do think the official story is complete Bullsh.



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 05:34 PM
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I allways thought that the plane ( Flight 93 ) shot down over Pennsylvania, was suppose to hit building 7. But something went wrong....and they "had to pull it"....otherwise the story would have been the same as it was with the two twin towers.



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 08:38 PM
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There was no tea party at the time of 9/11. I guess I don't understand how they could have supported anyone if they were not in existence. Explain.



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 09:32 PM
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pure aluminum begins to melt at 1700 degrees f at 1900 degrees f you have a nice pretty melt . A match burnes hotter. Oxygen ,air, wind, all the same thing yes. hand held bellows used by black smiths get the idea now.hold your hat around a big fire or on a large building or you'll lose it Ha Ha plus paper wood ,plastics and other combustaibles plus jet fuel equals incredible heat in degrees f. Thats why no plane wreckage found in pa. or very little it had speed and friction factor also. In afire like that very little would be left to pick up. I used 4 oz aluminum 2 to3 % brickets just layed in a line to burn threw rock slag steel mixture to a depth 6 feet deep 50 foot long cut actually longer no final measurement taken. Magnesium( pop can) flares just from a camp fire. I have lived with metals my hole life . I got more time in the #ter than you have on the job a good old mill hunky told me.



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 09:44 PM
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you would think they would not us pop cans to make aircraft aluminun but they do and will until some so called dummy lets them know . I have meet top engineers in fab . plants that drew blue prints with no clearences calculated and told me to put a 1 inch bolt in a 1 inch hole and a 10 inch piece of steel in a ten in opening. I laughed and told her show me and handed her the one inch bolt with a caliper to check the bolt and hole she lost millions of dollars for a big three car plant because of this. I wish I had a movie camera to record her reaction when she realizsed her job was over. You'll find out this country is run by book smart people that have no common sence at all.



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