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In the Cahiers Astrologiques (magazine) of 1960, M. Helmer presented his theory on the cyclic repetition of events, a cycle based mainly on using the Ideal pre-eminent Number 25920 and its factors. Applying his theory enabled him to make many exact predictions both economic and political.
In his account, he gave a special place to the Ideal number, 25920 years.
There are many cycles which have been used by various civilizations: the Manvantara and the Yuga of the ancient Hindus, the cycle of Daniel, the polar or ternary cycle and the Biblical cycle of seven times 77 years.
But every one of these is found in the perfect number, 25920 years, by simple division or multiplication.
Here are the various basic cycles obtained by this method:
25920 / 2 = 12960. 12960 x 5 = 64800 years. The Manvantara cycle.
25920 / 10 = 2592 years. The Daniel cycle.
25920 / 6 = 4320 years. The Yuga cycle in the tradition of India.
25920 / 12 = 2160 years. The cycle of a civilization or a religion and corresponding to the precessional passage from one constellation of the Zodiac to the next.
25920 / 12 = 2160 and 2160 / 2 = 1080 years. The cycle of opposition to what was created at the start of the 2160-year cycle.
2160 / 3 = 720 years. The so-called polar phase or ternary division pointed out by Rev. Father Poucel.
We will take for example the US, which Michel Helmer and many other observers consider the new Rome: the same spirit of enterprise, the same general morality, the same kind of laws as republican Rome.
The first Punic War that Rome waged against Carthage was from 264 to 241 B.C., which corresponds 2160 years later to 1896-1919.
One can say that in 1896-97 an economic war began between the US and Europe (ed: The Spanish American war?), especially Germany, a struggle made concrete by the Dingley Tariff and which ended in 1918-19 by Germany's defeat, thanks to the decisive American support in 1917.
Furthermore, the USA's world economic supremacy dates from 1919, all the European states having emerged weakened from the War.
The second Punic War, the gravest and most dangerous for Rome, started in 218 B.C. and ended in 201 B.C., which leads us 2160 years later to 1941-42 to 1959.
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Events do repeat cyclically, but it is never the repeating of the same events but more like an ascending spiral; the similar events manifest in an entirely new context, but their deep roots are identical.
From David Wilcock
We can now prove that historical events are not random at all. They move and dance in patterns that are shockingly more pre-ordained than we would ever dare to imagine.
Since this book was published, we have painstakingly proven that the effect of the Precessional Cycle is caused by moving through natural, cyclic variances in the aetheric density of space in our galaxy.
These variances have extremely precise effects on consciousness, and as we can see, they are repetitive. This lends tremendous credibility to the idea that as we move through these areas of energetic stress in the galaxy, there are undeniable changes in consciousness that are created and that affect the entire world.
The world transformation surrounding 2012 will be the ultimate change of consciousness, when what amounts to a dimensional shift occurs on Earth.
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THE CYCLES ARE STILL AT WORK
Masson's book stops analyzing the cycles of history as of 1979, and I've now picked up the ball where he left off and brought it all the way through until the present day -- and beyond. !
My greatest shock was finding that September 11th, 2001 corresponded perfectly to one of the cycles Masson had mentioned -- within a window of mere days of time!
And then when I was ready to be happy and done with that discovery, I realized I had to go back and see if all the other events in that prior cycle checked out -- and that amazed me even more!
This all just happened in the last few days, I might add. Very, very surprising and wonderful stuff.
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What we end up seeing, in the bigger picture, is that time is not linear -- it is cyclical.
We literally cannot go through time without being affected by cycles from the past. There are energies that affect our consciousness, and our free-will decisions, in a much stronger fashion than we would ever dare to believe is possible.
One of Masson's most impressive correlations was in showing that the Watergate scandal was almost identical to an event that happened in Roman history 2160 years earlier -- where Scipio Africanus was accused of corruption, refused to produce the potentially self-incriminating documents, and was forced to resign.
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2160 years is an Age of the Zodiac, and this is only one of an astonishing number of parallels between Rome in the Age of Taurus and the United States in the Age of Pisces.
In his latest book, former senior computer systems designer and bestselling author Gregg Braden merges these ancient and modern world views into a powerful new model of time. Marrying the modern laws of fractal patterns to the ancient concept of cycles, he demonstrates how everything from the war and peace between nations to our most joyous relationships and personal crises are the returning patterns of our past. As each pattern returns, it carries the same conditions of previous cycles—fractal patterns that can be known, measured and predicted!
What makes this model so important today is that the returning cycles also carry a window of opportunity—a choice point—that allows us to choose a new outcome for the cycle. Braden suggests that if we can see time from this perspective, the patterns will show us what’s in store for the future, and perhaps how to avoid the mistakes of our past.
After presenting the case histories that confirm the accuracy of fractal time calculations, the author crosses the traditional boundaries of science and spirituality to answer the question that must be asked: What does fractal time tell us about 2012, and beyond? Because the cycles repeat, the seed for 2012 has already happened and the pattern already exists! In a narrative format of easy-to-read science and true-life accounts, Fractal Time shows us what we can expect as we close the Great World Age described by the Mayan Calendar, and the secret to our moment in history.
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This means that on our present time lime, the Third Punic war (which only lasts 3 years and sets Rome as the ultimate empire for 600years +) will happen in 2011 or 2012.
Originally posted by Sinter Klaas
reply to post by On the Edge
Hi.
I believe this thread clearly debunks religion ( if true ) and its prophecies.
As they would happen anyway. According to this thread, the end times happened many times before and will happen many times again.
Why would you want to preach anyway ? This isn't the religion forum.
No offense to you but there are a lot of people that really don't believe what you do. So why bother them with it ?
Isn't catholic churge coming in to power because the last pope would be a devil worshipper ? Helping the anti christ to power or something ?
Originally posted by On the Edge
The thing is,prophecy won't change. If it's "meant to be"...it will happen. The Bible doesn't say,"Then they all made up and lived happily after". No.we are going to go through the worst of times imaginable.
There are forces at work that go beyond man's efforts.
Originally posted by Sinter Klaas
I believe this thread clearly debunks religion ( if true ) and its prophecies.
As they would happen anyway. According to this thread, the end times happened many times before and will happen many times again.
Originally posted by Sinter Klaas
I believe this thread clearly debunks religion ( if true ) and its prophecies.
As they would happen anyway. According to this thread, the end times happened many times before and will happen many times again.
Interesting. Your comment triggered a thought in my mind.
Think about Atlantis, Mu, Indus Valley and other ancient civilizations that no longer exist.
Is it possible, through 'reverse engineering' this theory, that we could find the most likely time that these massive catastrophes occurred? I wonder.
Furthermore, I wonder if correlations which exist between the Fall of Rome and the expected upcoming collapse of the US would be mirrored back in time to coincide with suggested dates for the fall of Atlantis and the like.
Someone good with numbers, get to work on this