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posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 03:50 AM
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British family sparks race case after telling U.S. hotel: 'We don't want to be served by a black person'


www.mailonsunday.co.u k

A British family is at the centre of am astonishing legal case in America after telling a luxury hotel they did not want to be served by a black waiter.

Their apparent racist request was entered into the computer of a five star Ritz-Carlton hotel on checking in and a black waiter was later stopped from serving them.

Haitian born Wadner Tranchant claims he was turned away from serving the family during their recent stay at the hotel in Naples, Florida, to avoid upsetting them.

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posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 03:50 AM
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Pathetic.

The U.S. population is regularly accused of containing a fair few racists. Having visited several times, i think this is true to some extent.

But let us not forget you can find a racist anywhere. These British wankers also represent a growing minority in my country.

Hopefully as they were staying in the 5 Star Ritz they were just rich bastards and not a representation of the majority of the British people.

Apparently the staff or staff member logged the request on the computer system. Adding to this, 9 members of staff were aware of this request from the Morgan family.

www.mailonsunday.co.u k
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 04:20 AM
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Originally posted by Peruvianmonk


Pathetic.

The U.S. population is regularly accused of containing a fair few racists. Having visited several times, i think this is true to some extent.

But let us not forget you can find a racist anywhere. These British wankers also represent a growing minority in my country.

Hopefully as they were staying in the 5 Star Ritz they were just rich bastards and not a representation of the majority of the British people.

Apparently the staff or staff member logged the request on the computer system. Adding to this, 9 members of staff were aware of this request from the Morgan family.

www.mailonsunday.co.u k
(visit the link for the full news article)

Yeah right on these minority Brits with their restless hands are growing all the time.
If the Hotel fulfillled this request they shirley are the guilty party, not the whining Limeys you transparently blame?
The thing is they dont want to be served by a black person, personally I wouldnt care as long as I got my food ect, but isnt this a free world?
A Jew or muslim during their religious calendar would refuse to be served or touched by a gentile, does this make them racist?
Facism is a six edged sword and then some.



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 04:27 AM
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They may or may not have been Limeys (English). British refers to the Welsh and to the Scottish as well!

I blame both the family and the hotel. It seems that this could well have been hotel policy.


According to the suit, the incident with Brit Rodney Morgan and his family was not the first of its kind, as "Other employees ... encountered similar treatment on multiple occasions".


www.heraldsun.com.au...

Your comment about Jews and Muslims were interesting. I am not sure. There is respecting religious beliefs which i agree with and then there is respecting them at a cost to your self which i do not agree with.

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posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 04:43 AM
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I simply can not imagine a hotel accepting this kind of request in Western society.. that is the obsurd part that i can not get my head around.. if they cater to these requests, what other unsavoury requests are the hotels catering to..

I am sorry to say this but even if I held those views (not wanting to be served by x race) then I would not tell the hotel since I am sure I'd end up with spittle and worse in my food.. And my baser instincts are that such high handed people deserve that kind of response..

Edit to add: I found the comments relating to religion quite interesting.. I worked in a business where I was the only while and only non Muslim, and during Ramadan they insisted I ate at my normal hours and normal location, since that was a test of their faith.. to not eat was deemed an insult.. I guess it all boils down to the perspective of the individual.

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posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 04:55 AM
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Wow, the OP and these people both are elitists.

Of course the rich and famous are special cases, they ARE elitists.

Sorry, but the old racist America is a figment of the MSM mantra.

Seems someone here has an elitist mentality.

I think I am going to request that I no longer be served by the elitist mentality.

Damn it, the MSM, government, college profs, "royalty" and others are still there.



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 04:59 AM
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I'm sorry to say that i really can imagine a request like this being filed often and accepted in places like the Ritz.

It will be interesting to see how this case unfolds.

Apparently it wasn't just black people that this family did not want serving them.


The family allegedly told staff at a five-star Ritz-Carlton in Florida they did not wish to be served by "people of colour" or anyone with "foreign accents".


www.nzherald.co.nz...

Foreign accent? What does that mean? Foreign to British people?! Well that rules out the whole of America!



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 05:02 AM
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How am i elitist?

When you are in a car in full of Americans and every single one of them is blaming America's ills on the [SNIP] you tend to come to the conclusion that the U.S. may, just may still have a problem with racism.

I am also aware of Black and Hispanic racism toward the American 'White' population.

The point i am making is that racism is not only an American problem, as these British nobs have shown.

 


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posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 05:06 AM
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You know, they probably are quite a lot of these events occuring in certain areas...but we just probably don't know about it.

Firstly...the family against a black waiter?

Why? There's nothing wrong with the colour. Hell, the family is only living due to the these African people (evolution - if that's correct.)

And I definitely think it's not only the family's fault but also the hotels.

They could have taken action....still allowed the waiter to serve them.
If the family wasn't happy with it...tell them to leave.

It is imaginable to believe that racism, like this, still occurs and still not taken action against.



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 05:08 AM
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[Apparently it wasn't just black people that this family did not want serving them.


The family allegedly told staff at a five-star Ritz-Carlton in Florida they did not wish to be served by "people of colour" or anyone with "foreign accents".


Perhaps they didnt want to feel they hadnt gone on holidays from England.



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 05:09 AM
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I don't know how I stand on this... By that I mean, Racism is a very very ugly thing but at the same time it is what it is. Unfortunately I have accepted racism as a daily part of life. Racism comes from all groups. I work in a town that has an "all black university" Needless to say the reaction to an all white university now a days.
The hotel should have never entertained such a request but not because of it's profound lack of moral fiber but because its's the Ritz. To think that there would not be a lawsuit is rediculous. Now to the gentleman that is doing the sueing. He needed to seek med/psyc help after the incident, of course he did. Because thats how you get money out of people. Good for him. It's just another way of making a hill into a moutain. As for Mr. Morgan, with a name like Rodney Morgan I'd say he was Welsh, I've lived in Wales and well lets just say I beleive Mr. Morgan could be a racist. Is that me just being racist about a racist??? I dunno??? All and all racism is all around us everywhere unfortunately. This hatred is still well rooted all over the world and will always be a burden to bear for those who have been victimized by racism. I just wonder who the victem will be in this case...



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 05:10 AM
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I guess growing up in Brighton has shielded me to a degree from such behaviour, or thinking that such behaviour was still endemic..

However the usual response locally to those types of people is usually crass and includes copious amounts of bodily fluids in the food..

So I am sure of one thing, these people will have eaten plenty of such meals over the years.. which is in my mind quite amusing..



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 05:17 AM
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Ha yeh.

I grew up in Southampton where thankfully the large Asian community has adapted and mixed well with the white population so there is little trouble.

The Polish are the main target of hate here.

Going back to this case. I suspect the claimant will win here and get a healthy donation to his bank account, good for him. Hopefully it will lead to severe censure of the hotel and spark a debate about race both in Britain and the U.S.



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 05:17 AM
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What you are decrying is NOT racism.

It is created by the government. When the government institutes welfare systems that inherently go to certain races, this is what causes the vitriol you speak of.

It is not racism, it is people getting fed up with the welfare systems created by government.

It is a control parameter. Period. NOT racism.

Racism is defined as thinking ones race is better than the other, not that they are causing all the problems in society.

Sorry about the elitist label.

I am just sick and tired of the governmental caused divisiveness.

Just as the MSM is CONSTANTLY labeling the TPM a racist movement.

This is ALL cause to divide and conquer us. You need to see the difference.

I find all of this RACIST CRAP to be abhorrent, meaning the FALSE accusations of racism.

This story of COURSE is racism. Hmmmmmm, who AGAIN was it being accused of REAL RACISM?



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 05:23 AM
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Ummm this family were British and most likely had no knowledge of your welfare system. And that seems pretty irrelevant as this black guy was WORKING, not at the local welfare office.

So you are saying that blaming all the problems of a society on one or two ethnic groups such as the 'Niggers' or 'Spics' is not racism?

I agree there are plenty of examples of false accusations of racism, but this is not one of them. Besides that does not shield from the fact that plenty of it still exists.

The Ku Klux Clan still exists in the United States. Was it created by the Government?

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posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 05:24 AM
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Originally posted by Dr Conspire
[Apparently it wasn't just black people that this family did not want serving them.


The family allegedly told staff at a five-star Ritz-Carlton in Florida they did not wish to be served by "people of colour" or anyone with "foreign accents".



How are they going to be served by anyone without a foreign accent in a foreign country?

I really don't know what's worse, this tosser family making the request in the first place or the hotel for accomodating the request.

I really do despair at some people.

Luckily, this scum doesn't represent the majority of the population of the UK, but worryingly, their ilk is on the rise.

This really does make me angry and only the ATS terms & conditions prevents me from stating my true feelings



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 05:29 AM
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You need to read and UNDERSTAND my previous comment. I was referring to your reference to the N and S reference to the welfare system problem.

I EVEN stated this was a TRUE RACISM accusation.

You need to read and comprehend my comment before accusing me of saying this had to do with the welfare system. Should I repost my entire comment?

As others have stated, I think these people probably got some extra ordinary service. We non elitists have ways, I always like the toothbrush rubbed on the scrotum or up the bum myself for the elitist freaks out there.

I always wanted to see their expression when they got that wonderful taste in the morning.



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 05:35 AM
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Originally posted by thoughtsfull
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I guess growing up in Brighton has shielded me to a degree from such behaviour, or thinking that such behaviour was still endemic..


Agreed, I come from the Black Country (not named for the large ethnic population
), so I guess I just find this kind of attitude baffling, as the ethnic people in this area have integrated well and I have many friends from various backgrounds.

I do however visit The Wirral/Liverpool a lot, where there are less Asians and there is a lot more casual racism, with names like "Paki" being thrown around without an eye being batted.



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 05:37 AM
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Your quite difficult to understand and it wasn't clear what you were referring to from my previous post.

Oh i see, Black and other minorities have a welfare system that is slanted in their favor? Its that which is ruining your country.

Right ok, so its not the expense on your military? The socialism towards the banks? The off shoring of American Jobs?

Nope, it is a section of the population who little over 40 years ago lived in an officially apartheid state.

Well i suppose they need this welfare bias to keep them quiet as almost everything else is slanted against them, i.e. Laws, work prospects, living conditions.



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 05:44 AM
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Wow, nice ad hom and exclusionary tactic there.

So, I said the only thing wrong with the US is the welfare system?

Nice try, right off the start you accuse everyone in the US with racism with a blanket charge and I try and refute your blanket charge.

Then YOU attempt to place into my mouth another SUPPOSED accusation on my position.

Done with this thread, I frelling proved your elitist attitude AWFULLY quick by your use of the accusatory angle and the implementation of ad homs. Better do the SOP of scrubbing your comments.



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