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Originally posted by endisnighe
I thought I would create this thread to actually address the issue at hand and not some tripe created to bash the TPM. I find it ironic that if someone in the enforcement arm of the Arizona police, has a reasonable suspicion that Obama is an illegal, they could force him to prove it!
From the legislation-
For any lawful contact made by a law enforcement official or agency of this state or a county, city, town or other political subdivision of this state where reasonable suspicion exists that the person is an alien who is unlawfully present in the United States, a reasonable attempt shall be made, when practicable, to determine the immigration status of the person. The person's immigration status shall be verified with the federal government pursuant to 8 United States code section 1373(c)
Here is the link to Arizona legislature's page on the immigration bill.
Arizona legislation 1070
Any Arizona Police Officers out there that are birthers?
Want a real solution to immigration reform? How about require every employer to use E-Verify?
Originally posted by MaxBlack
Pretty soon papers or race and immigrant status wont matter because everyone will be rounded up and transported to the FEMA camps that Glenn Beck the liar says does not exist just for being an American who once was proud of a country with freedoms and liberties for all.
AZ is showing us how police state gets set up and implemented. Pay attention because this same tactic will soon be coming to a State where you live.
Abdon, who did not want to use his last name, says he provided several key pieces of information but what he provided apparently was not what was needed.
This law only applies TO LAWFUL interactions with the police or government.
Going to argue that point or keep OBFUSCATING as ALWAYS.
E verify has been proven to only catch 50% of the people. As many people have also stated, cash under the table business. How bout that.
Yep! All for the 4th Amendment are you? Sure, let's just mandate employers violate the 4th Amendment, there's an answer. If any employer is demanding such proof of documentation as a point of law, then they are necessarily violating the 4th Amendment. But that's not your problem, right? Once in Congress you'll just join in on the pass the responsibility game by demanding employers do your job for you, and violate the 4th Amendment while they're at it. Good call!
So now you are using one of my arguments on employment? At least you are admitting I am right.
And if you are going to TRY and enforce private business to verify citizenship. How bout making the government verify it, ohhhhhh, you are arguing against that AREN'T you?
Yeah, well, I say we verify citizenship in another private locale, hospitals.
Are you going to exempt that component also? How bout in our military? Oh that one is ALREADY exempt. Join the ARMY, get your citizenship papers.
E-Verify is not a violation of the 4th Amendment because you are not required by law to have a job in this country. You don't want a job that requires you to prove that you are legally able to work in this country? Start your own business.
I say we make it easier for people to work in this country.
Originally posted by DaddyBare
Yes there probably is some racism and profiling going on but the instant you accepted your CDL you also gave up your rights to privacy.