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Pentagon Says Iran Sending Troops to Venezuela, Aiding Taliban

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posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 09:29 PM
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Pentagon Says Iran Sending Troops to Venezuela, Aiding Taliban


www.washingtontimes.com

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Iran is increasing its paramilitary Qods force operatives in Venezuela while covertly continuing supplies of weapons and explosives to Taliban and other insurgents in Afghanistan and Iraq, according to the Pentagon’s first report to Congress on Tehran’s military.

The report on Iranian military power provides new details on the group known formally as the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps-Qods Force (IRGC-QF), the Islamist shock troops deployed around the world to advance Iranian interests. The unit is aligned with terrorists in Iraq, Afghanistan, Israel, North Africa and Latin
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posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 09:29 PM
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More propaganda designed to demonize Iran prior to the coming attack. This is reminiscent of 2002, before the war.

"Iran is increasing its paramilitary Qods force operatives in Venezuela while covertly continuing supplies of weapons and explosives to Taliban and other insurgents in Afghanistan and Iraq, according to the Pentagon's first report to Congress on Tehran's military. "

Hay why do not you talk about how the ISI (The Israeli Intelligence arm) are funding Al-CIAd errr ahh I man Al-quida. Or who WE (The USA) Created Al-Quida in the 70s and 80s and have fund them to this day? NAH! hay remember the "Air Lift of Evil?" When we flew out over 2000 Taliban troops on DC-10s just before the invasion? Nah just a foot note then into the memory hole it goes

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posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 09:39 PM
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Its actually just basic strategy. Pump guns and money into our enemy's. Wait until we are worn down. Then swoop in when we are nice and ripe for the picking.



posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 09:43 PM
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What is the advantage of this for the taliban
Jus curious



posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 09:56 PM
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Iran-Contra affair was just as bad a situation.........



posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 10:10 PM
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the pentagon also said al qeada did 9/11 and iraq had WMD. how do we know what they say its true if we've been repeatedly lied to by them. if we buy the crap they're telling us now, iran could be the next iraq.



posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 10:18 PM
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Personality I though Venezuela was our friend but it seems now that they are lying cause Iran is #ing insane! V is apart of America even though it is South, doesnt mean the are war makers, the way it seems... Why are they making it seem like it is all because of me, if so then # YOU! period.


AND VENEZUELA # YOU IF YOU DO NOT WANT WOMEN TO BE FREE CAUSE DANG, IRAN SEES WOMEN AS BABY MAKING PEICES OF # AND THATS IT, atleast to me. SLAVERY MUST BE A THING VENEZUELA WANT IF THEY ARE SIDEING WITH IRAN, A PLACE WHERE WOMEN CANT EVEN SHOW THERE BEAUTIFUL CHEEKS, a thing that is instead of a thing that is to be hiden by what they think.

If I was a girl and any man that is Iranian could be then it makes me sick that such humans even are cause think that GOD could have made anyone that you think are special Man instead of Women, the gender that is pathetic to Iranian even though it is all a switch to GOD.

Women are suppose to be free and all I hear from Iran and # is #ING SLAVERY WHILE THEY KILL THEMSELVES CAUSE THAT IS THE ONLY CHOICE THEY HAVE, while I feel like a dick cause I am insulting a country that I thought could claim freedom for there women, but instead they are in the place that fate brought them, like slaves in the U.S. back in the day. MAKES ME FUNKING SICK. FREEDOM FOR ALL EVEN THOUGH WE ARE ALL SAVAGE, but nobody else seems to have the power like Iran and I e-mail those funking savages? funk you women are free, not slaves and if you think on the side of them then idk cause I like TATU and they side with people that keep women as pathteic wihich makes me wonder why when womens freedom is on the line.

Makes me think that they do it for the funk of it. Makes me sick, and I am a game look which makes me even more sick, but seriously womens freedom should be the utmost importants cause even Acmedachad could hqave been a women if not for the simple wimm of Allah. 1 - 2 M - F women - or Female and women have to be crapped on...


Women are more then you could imagine but instead we see women as insuperious compare to the worlds view makeing me funking sick. It is like slavery in the 21st centuary, if F'ing insane!!!

Why would South America side with them? All because of f'ing turtles and mice and worms sent into space? funking ridiculous. If they are in the right then I do not belong on this Earth cause mofo's everyone should be equal darn it and this is the 21st motherfunking centuary.

Makes this place in time pathetic and make me wish humans were smarter cause dang male or female it does not matter and wither way any male looks like a supressor when this # is going on. THIS AIN'T NO FUNKING GAME!!! THIS IS THE LIVES OF BEING THAT ARE FEMALE yet they are funking less? NO!!!!! FEMALE OR NOT THEY ARE STILL HUMAN and they are still creations of GOD yet somehow they are worth less?


NAY!

They are just funked buy the current time yet it is still accepted as fine.

Women are equal to men, unless people that hate women are gay degrading women.

Either way I am Bi getting me in the clear compared to the haters of women, of which if not for women the there people willling to kill for w/e would not exsist.

It takes 2 and yet they see as one, why?

Power over the sex?

Power over the baby makers? Either way if they do not see we are equall to the women that are then they lose 50% of their power. Male,Female, 50, 50.

What makes Males so much better? I am Male and I am not just saying this to get laid. I am doing this for freedom over life of self.

Cause remember, with the switch of Allah, you could have been a women. Remember this.



posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 10:44 PM
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Originally posted by wonderinghows
Personality I though Venezuela was our friend but it seems now that they are lying cause Iran is #ing insane! V is apart of America even though it is South, doesnt mean the are war makers, the way it seems... Why are they making it seem like it is all because of me, if so then # YOU! period.


AND VENEZUELA # YOU IF YOU DO NOT WANT WOMEN TO BE FREE CAUSE DANG, IRAN SEES WOMEN AS BABY MAKING PEICES OF # AND THATS IT, atleast to me. SLAVERY MUST BE A THING VENEZUELA WANT IF THEY ARE SIDEING WITH IRAN, A PLACE WHERE WOMEN CANT EVEN SHOW THERE BEAUTIFUL CHEEKS, a thing that is instead of a thing that is to be hiden by what they think.

.....................................

Cause remember, with the switch of Allah, you could have been a women. Remember this.


As a venezuelan i would love to say that i understand, but i dont get your point, at least i dont see the relation between the political situation and your problems with islam treatment of women.

The situation here doesnt have religious roots, what happen here is what you get when people with poor education is allowed to vote, they choose a populist guy who makes a lot of promises that sounds cool to them, and a lot of the retoric against the United States was fueled by Bush and his administration, and now is a little late for Chavez to stop because it has become a very important part of his political propaganda.

Anyway, i know there is a lot of idealist people who really believes that the United States goverment have some evil reason to speak about this kind of things, but i have family in the military here, in Venezuela, and i dont need the Pentagon saying that to know that there is a lot of truth in their words, there are iranians, but not as much as cubans.



posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 10:47 PM
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Originally posted by Vinveezy


More propaganda designed to demonize Iran prior to the coming attack. This is reminiscent of 2002, before the warwww.washingtontimes.com
(visit the link for the full news article)


Why do people defend Iran? I mean, I don't want war with them, and if we did go to war with them I'd oppose it...but they aren't "innocent." Neither is Hugo Chavez, if either of them wielded the power of the U.S. military or a larger army, they would not be peaceful. These people are disgusting, and as much as I hate Barack Obama's policies, I'd take him any day over Hugo Chavez or Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

[edit on 22-4-2010 by yellowcard]



posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 11:32 PM
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Dear MonteroReal

IDC what you think cause gee golly women are not equal in a place at which your country accepts help from.

There is only one thing, and that is freedom.

I guess "my friend" on mother Earth that you hate women cause geez equal rights for all or you are not looking for equal rights for all, ya know?

IDC what you ahve to say "dude" but remember that in a differant Universe you were a women and live in Iran so f you and w/e you think cause that was a dumb decesion by me and you for sticking up for what we believe in, but the greatest thing is that I know I am right deep down in my soul, that place where infinite happens.


Either way my post makes as much sense as your post did, in other words non at all, WHEN IT COMES TO THE FACTS OF ALLIES. I am actually surprised you can come on ATS, really, when gee golly woman are not equal...


In a sperate question, can the woman of Venezula vote? I am capitalizeing Venezula cause I respect them as a Country and the military that are their soliders.

America has poor people to yet the poors keep their mouth shut cause idk, but what I do know is that America is now equal to other Countries cause we are all poor, every country, compared to RICH PEOPLE so please do not GROUP me as just a Americain when you don;t know # about the pay roll that is the economy of the U.S.A.

In other words if you do not get the point that I posted earlier then you do not follow the money or the current situation of the rights at which you do not care, even tough you do cause you are ATS making you a cool individuel!!!

Americains can;t do anything about Americain Politics like you can;t about your but I am glad I see what you can not!

Government and Pentagon and civilian descisions are completely differant here I guess, cause we seperate it inorder for the order of the lag that seems to be the rest of the world at this hour.

For we are idealistic because we grow up in a place, like you grew up in your place. To hold it against us is racist in it's self... I mean for example.... anyone from any country can come to America.

Yea but keep on talking about Bush dude but remember if 9/11 never happened maybe Bush would have done what he did, but of course you a non Americain do not care about the # storm that was that day.

I mean I do not see people flying planes into towers of Venezuela yet you stick up for people that want to attack a place that promotes free-will?

Maybe I will get you when I die but at the current time I am of science and you are not nature loving as I thought you would be, I am insane so I do not speak for anyone but I feel like I do cause, gee golly freedom for all unless we are all puppets.

Do you want to be a puppet? I do not cause the Universe to to Gosh Darn big to have slaves.

Care or not care of my previous pst, either way they accept help from a community that denies rights to women... Male, Female, we could all switch genitales in another life, then where whould you be?


Seriously think about it



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 03:29 AM
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Care or not care of my previous pst, either way they accept help from a community that denies rights to women... Male, Female, we could all switch genitales in another life, then where whould you be?

Seriously think about it


I think you're on crack, dude. WTF are you talking about? No wonder why countries like Iran and Venezuela have such difficult times trying to socially/technologically/culturally progress with such horrible examples of ignorance that people like yourself try to portray.

American influence is bad, very very very bad. I'm sure it's hard to see it if you are an American living in the US, bombarded with insane notions that South America is somehow dominated by the United States of America (the only relation is their location within the western hemisphere) and ideas that Iran shipping shock troops to Venezuela has ANYTHING to do with women's rights.

Speaking of women's rights, you should look at your own national situation. Who cares about women's rights in America when it's more like 80% of your country has no rights, regardless if they have a penis or vagina.



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 04:07 AM
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Hugo Chavez perhaps the last voice of a true patriot exposed the militarys HAARP technology on live tv so I'm sure they would make the last truly free country the enemy



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 04:20 AM
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Wow. Didn't see THAT one coming!

However, I can only take the Washington Times with a grain of salt...Paper's owned by "Rev." Sun Myung Moon. Look into him and his agenda. Creeeepy. Just google him.

Also, the article is a classic prop-job. Nebulous claims with little sourced material. How do they know they are being shipped over? By what means? How many? Why would they send troops there?

I know they have defense ties, and have had military technology exchanges....which may be the explanation for this as well. When the US sells military technology to a nation that did not previously have that technology, we also send over advisors to train them on how to use the technology.

Personally, I don't like either Ahmedinijad or Chavez very much at all, however, Venezuela (just as people say about Israel) has the right to self defense. They are facing some threats from not only their neighbours, but also from the US.

Also, nations, like individuals, have the right to go after the "best deal" to save money. Sometimes we buy stuff from people that other people don't like simply because it's the cheapest. If Iran is making the best deal on whatever hardware they're getting...by all means...save a buck.

For Americans to ramp up war and demonise national leaders for political propagandistic purposes and then continue to demonise these leaders for taking steps to defend themselves (in their mind, they are defending themselves...in our mind WE are defending OURSELVES) from a perceived threat while at the same time stirring up reasons for them to act this way in the first place is hypocrisy in the highest.

For us to sit back and say "SEE?! They're buying guns!!! Evildoers!" After we turn the rhetoric machine towards them is silly to say the least. Everyone seems to WANT war. What are we? Crazy?

Don't answer that.

edit: correcting sentence structure logical error in second to last paragraph

[edit on 23-4-2010 by RowdyRhodie]



posted on Apr, 25 2010 @ 12:37 AM
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Originally posted by NWOWILLFALL
Hugo Chavez perhaps the last voice of a true patriot exposed the militarys HAARP technology on live tv so I'm sure they would make the last truly free country the enemy


Lol, yes, the voice of freedom, that was why i cant find work in the goverment because im in a list that says i oppose him, cool, nice freedom.


Originally posted by wonderinghows
Dear MonteroReal

IDC what you think cause gee golly women are not equal in a place at which your country accepts help from.

............... etc etc etc


Dear wonderinghows, again i would love to understand you but i just dont get your point, i dont hate women, i love women in fact, but still your post doesnt make sense, but i will adress some things, yes, women can vote here and when you say that im "not an american", well, you must understand that to us hispanics hear people saying that is a little disgusting, last time i check the country i was born, it was in a Continent called America so you see, im an american, and i never say i want to stick with people who attack free will, the problem here are political, not religious, if you want to rant about islam and women well i suppose you can go to the religious section, but here please stick to the political, and btw, im not defending islam, i am a atheist and they will hang me



Originally posted by RowdyRhodie


For Americans to ramp up war and demonise national leaders for political propagandistic purposes and then continue to demonise these leaders for taking steps to defend themselves (in their mind, they are defending themselves...in our mind WE are defending OURSELVES) from a perceived threat while at the same time stirring up reasons for them to act this way in the first place is hypocrisy in the highest.



As i say, im Venezuelan and in my mind, no, we are not defending ourselves, Chavez is defending his political program, is a little hard to understand for idealist people living in other countries, but Chavez had said very clearly that the weapons are for defend the revolution against the "Empire" but must important, against us, the venezuelans who oppose him, he already said that if we win more seats in the congress in the next election, its gonna be war, men, believe me, things are ugly and a lot of us are scared to hell, all days, every time he speaks he treat us, that they are going to take our houses, property, that they are going to fight us, Chavez is the kind of man who thinks that every oposition to him is treason, he think we are betraying him and betraying the country because we dont want socialism.

I would love to defend my country against an external treat, but i dont really believe the US are going to intervene, the bullets are not for them, but for us.



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