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Originally posted by drew hempel
reply to post by Janky Red
Do you have a quote or reference for your claim about the $3 million grassroots union tour buses?
I can't find any source or quote to back that up.
THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING A SOURCE OR QUOTE TO BACK UP YOUR OTHERWISE ORIGINAL COMMENT.
Originally posted by drew hempel
reply to post by Janky Red
Do you have a quote or reference for your claim about the $3 million grassroots union tour buses?
I can't find any source or quote to back that up.
THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING A SOURCE OR QUOTE TO BACK UP YOUR OTHERWISE ORIGINAL COMMENT.
Government sponsored unions couldn't afford it, they already blew the money on 1400 dollar pizza cutters and 30,000 dollar toilet seats.
That's the MILITARY -- not unions! www.wnd.com... The military procurement horror tales of the early 1980s -- immortalized by the $435 claw hammer, the $640 toilet seat and $7,600 coffee makers -- have returned, say investigators, The Pentagon is paying 618 percent more for its spare parts than it should, according to the inspector general's report, titled "Commercial Spare Parts Purchased on a Corporate Contract." It cited a $24.72 spare part that the government bought from Boeing for $403.39 -- a markup of 1,532 percent. Another contractor charged $76 for 57-cent screws.
lol, "proud union member".. whatever. Thanks for inflating the cost of living with your "decent wage".
www.wisegeek.com... This article, like most, completely overlooks the most important feature of a minimum wage: redressing the balance between high earners and low earners. For example, the Waltons each year currently earn seven hundred thousand times what their average worker makes in a year. A minimum wage might mean that the poor Waltons would have to settle for making only six hundred thousand times what their average worker makes in a year without the price of anything having to be adjusted in the slightest. www.clevelandfed.org... It turns out that the vast majority of the published evidence suggests that there is little reason to believe that wage inflation causes price inflation. In fact, it is more often found that price inflation causes wage inflation.
Originally posted by aravoth reply to post by David9176 the one where the prime rate was near zero for the last 12 years
www.alternet.org... At first, investors mostly gambled that interest or currency exchange rates would go up or down. Then, during the 1990s, when interest rates were low around the world, the demand for more exotic "structured" investments -- including various derivatives and swaps based on debt -- skyrocketed.
Yet you are not angry at the Government for creating those Corporations. Corporations are, quite literally, creations of the State, as they cannot exist with state sponsorship.
WALL STREET creates the ultimate governments! www.reformed-theology.org... Wall Street and the World Revolution American Bankers and Tsarist Loans Olof Aschberg in New York, 1916 American International Corporation The Influence of American International on the Revolution The Federal Reserve Bank of New York American-Russian Industrial Syndicate Inc. John Reed: Establishment Revolutionary www.reformed-theology.org... Chapter One Wall Street Paves the Way for Hitler 1924: The Dawes Plan 1928: The Young Plan B.I.S. — The Apex of Control Building the German Cartels Chapter Two The Empire of I.G. Farben The Economic Power of I.G. Farben Polishing I.G. Farben's Image The American I.G. Farben Chapter Three General Electric Funds Hitler General Electric in Weimar, Germany General Electric & the Financing of Hitler Technical Cooperation with Krupp A.E.G. Avoids the Bombs in World War II Chapter Four Standard Oil Duels World War II Ethyl Lead for the Wehrmacht Standard Oil and Synthetic Rubber The Deutsche-Amerikanische Petroleum A.G. Chapter Five I.T.T. Works Both Sides of the War Baron Kurt von Schröder and I.T.T. Westrick, Texaco, and I.T.T. I.T.T. in Wartime Germany
"Despite the seeming anarchy, Somalia's service sector has managed to survive and grow. Telecommunication firms provide wireless services in most major cities and offer the lowest international call rates on the continent. In the absence of a formal banking sector, money exchange services have sprouted throughout the country, handling between $500 million and $1 billion in remittances annually. Mogadishu's main market offers a variety of goods from food to the newest electronic gadgets. Hotels continue to operate, and militias provide security."
No doubt -- slavery is the ultimate Free Market! www.financialpost.com... HARADHEERE, Somalia -- In Somalia's main pirate lair of Haradheere, the sea gangs have set up a cooperative to fund their hijackings offshore, a sort of stock exchange meets criminal syndicate. Heavily armed pirates from the lawless Horn of Africa nation have terrorized shipping lanes in the Indian Ocean and strategic Gulf of Aden, which links Europe to Asia through the Red Sea. The gangs have made tens of millions of dollars from ransoms and a deployment by foreign navies in the area has only appeared to drive the attackers to hunt further from shore. It is a lucrative business that has drawn financiers from the Somali diaspora and other nations -- and now the gangs in Haradheere have set up an exchange to manage their investments. Read more: www.financialpost.com...
Originally posted by aravoth
Originally posted by drew hempel
reply to post by aravoth
No doubt -- slavery is the ultimate Free Market!
I guess you would enjoy the life of a sweatshop worker, or waiting in bread lines for your government handout.
You are a slave. The free market has nothing to do with that.
Philadelphia - At a Wharton Business School conference on business in Africa, World Trade Organization representative Hanniford Schmidt announced the creation of a WTO initiative for "full private stewardry of labor" for the parts of Africa that have been hardest hit by the 500 years of Africa's free trade with the West. US Trade Representative Laurie Ann Agama, with "Schmidt" and "Thomas" The initiative will require Western companies doing business in some parts of Africa to own their workers outright. Schmidt recounted how private stewardship has been successfully applied to transport, power, water, traditional knowledge, and even the human genome. The WTO's "full private stewardry" program will extend these successes to (re)privatize humans themselves.
To prove that human stewardry can work, Schmidt cited a proposal by a free-market think tank to save whales by selling them. "Those who don't like whaling can purchase rights to specific whales or groups of whales in order to stop those particular whales from getting whaled as much," he explained. Similarly, the market in Third-World humans will "empower" caring First Worlders to help them, Schmidt said.
Originally posted by drew hempel
Originally posted by aravoth
Originally posted by drew hempel
reply to post by aravoth
No doubt -- slavery is the ultimate Free Market!
I guess you would enjoy the life of a sweatshop worker, or waiting in bread lines for your government handout.
You are a slave. The free market has nothing to do with that.
Nope I would not enjoy the life of a sweatshop worker, nor waiting in bread lines for my government handout.
No I am not a slave. The free market has everything to do with slavery.
Noam Chomsky, the most-well known proponent of anarchism, bases his theory in the arguments of freedom found in classical liberalism. Anarcho-primitivist John Zerzan has, like some other grassroots activists working for social justice, incorrectly critiqued Chomsky, mainly labeling him as a statist or a pro-technology industrialist. The expositions on anarchism that are classic anti-statist documents and, according to Chomsky, the best theoretical overviews of anarchism to date are, for the most part, unknown even by those who claim to be anarchists! Most theorists looking to climb the intellectual ladder are too quick to want to dethrone Chomsky, assuming the details in his prolific writings are not worth the time.334 As far as Chomsky being a pro-technology industrialist, on the contrary, he was one of the first main New Left theorists to support a questioning of this issue. He states, "Students are also reacting against the values of industrial society.... In fact, there may be very serious questioning, in coming years, of the basic assumption of modern society that development of technology is inherently a desirable, inevitable process."335
Although one would think Chomsky would be hesitant to support sound-current nondualism since he frequently cites his strong roots in the Enlightenment. But I have shown that there is nothing irrational about the knowledge system. Chomsky, as I mentioned, was largely influenced by the spiritual scholar Martin Buber. Chomsky refers more than once to Wilhelm von Humboldt's promotion of "the spiritual life." Chomsky commonly states that there will need to be a change of consciousness for justice to be achieved. The passage of Rousseau that Chomsky refers to regularly for his example of freedom emphasizes an "against civilization" perspective: "... when I see multitudes of entirely naked savages scorn European voluptuousness and endure hunger, fire, the sword and death to preserve only their independence,..."336 Even though Chomsky's political analysis is understandably marginalized by the corporate-state structural crisis that he exposes, a recent review in Business Week made the following remarks: "With relentless logic, Chomsky bids us to listen closely to what our leaders tell us ( and to discern what they are leaving out.... If there is anything new about our age, it is that the questions Chomsky raises will eventually have to be answered. Agree with him or not, we lose out by not listening." 337
There is no question that the megabanks derive great power and enormous profit from their web of official contacts. We should reflect carefully on whether such private flows of information between governments and “too big to fail” banks are entirely suitable in today’s unstable financial world. Large global banks make money, in part, through nontransparent manipulation of information – this is the heart of the SEC charges against Goldman Sachs. But the problem is much broader: the Wall Street-Washington corridor is alive and well on its way to another crisis that will empower, enrich, and embolden insiders (public and private) while impoverishing the rest of us. The big players on Wall Street are powerful like never before – and they use this power to press for information and favors from sympathetic (or scared) government officials. The big banks also appear hell-bent on abusing that power. One consequence will be further destabilizing global financial markets – watch carefully what happens to Greece, Portugal, Ireland, and Spain at the beginning of next week.
Originally posted by drew hempel
Hey if you're backpedaling about Somalia that's fine with me. I live in Minneapolis which has the largest Somalian refugee community in the U.S. I happened to hang with the Somalians for several years so I'm familiar with the whole Somalian "free market" argument.
Also my Dad is big on the "free market" right-wing bull# -- so he's had me read all their tracts: Hudson Institute, Hoover Institute, American Enterprise Institute, Cato Institute, Heritage Foundation, Hudson Institute, etc.
These dudes are LACKEYS for the MAN -- they are corporate funded as a TAX DEDUCTION and they were set up to fight Ralph Nader back in the 1970s. Just see the documentary on Nader: An Unreasonable Man.
As for comparing me with Chomsky well here's from my masters thesis which I linked previously:
naturalresonancerevolution.blogspot.com...
Noam Chomsky, the most-well known proponent of anarchism, bases his theory in the arguments of freedom found in classical liberalism. Anarcho-primitivist John Zerzan has, like some other grassroots activists working for social justice, incorrectly critiqued Chomsky, mainly labeling him as a statist or a pro-technology industrialist. The expositions on anarchism that are classic anti-statist documents and, according to Chomsky, the best theoretical overviews of anarchism to date are, for the most part, unknown even by those who claim to be anarchists! Most theorists looking to climb the intellectual ladder are too quick to want to dethrone Chomsky, assuming the details in his prolific writings are not worth the time.334 As far as Chomsky being a pro-technology industrialist, on the contrary, he was one of the first main New Left theorists to support a questioning of this issue. He states, "Students are also reacting against the values of industrial society.... In fact, there may be very serious questioning, in coming years, of the basic assumption of modern society that development of technology is inherently a desirable, inevitable process."335
Although one would think Chomsky would be hesitant to support sound-current nondualism since he frequently cites his strong roots in the Enlightenment. But I have shown that there is nothing irrational about the knowledge system. Chomsky, as I mentioned, was largely influenced by the spiritual scholar Martin Buber. Chomsky refers more than once to Wilhelm von Humboldt's promotion of "the spiritual life." Chomsky commonly states that there will need to be a change of consciousness for justice to be achieved. The passage of Rousseau that Chomsky refers to regularly for his example of freedom emphasizes an "against civilization" perspective: "... when I see multitudes of entirely naked savages scorn European voluptuousness and endure hunger, fire, the sword and death to preserve only their independence,..."336 Even though Chomsky's political analysis is understandably marginalized by the corporate-state structural crisis that he exposes, a recent review in Business Week made the following remarks: "With relentless logic, Chomsky bids us to listen closely to what our leaders tell us ( and to discern what they are leaving out.... If there is anything new about our age, it is that the questions Chomsky raises will eventually have to be answered. Agree with him or not, we lose out by not listening." 337
Go ahead give your definition of the Free Market.
As I said: MAKE YOUR CLAIM.
I wrote a paper in my Environmental Economics class as an undergraduate at UW-Madison:
THE INCORRECT SUPPLY AND DEMAND MODEL.
Go for it.
baselinescenario.com...-7299
There is no question that the megabanks derive great power and enormous profit from their web of official contacts. We should reflect carefully on whether such private flows of information between governments and “too big to fail” banks are entirely suitable in today’s unstable financial world. Large global banks make money, in part, through nontransparent manipulation of information – this is the heart of the SEC charges against Goldman Sachs. But the problem is much broader: the Wall Street-Washington corridor is alive and well on its way to another crisis that will empower, enrich, and embolden insiders (public and private) while impoverishing the rest of us. The big players on Wall Street are powerful like never before – and they use this power to press for information and favors from sympathetic (or scared) government officials. The big banks also appear hell-bent on abusing that power. One consequence will be further destabilizing global financial markets – watch carefully what happens to Greece, Portugal, Ireland, and Spain at the beginning of next week.
www.youtube.com...
[edit on 24-4-2010 by drew hempel]
[edit on 24-4-2010 by drew hempel]
Originally posted by aravoth
reply to post by drew hempel
You know what? You can't even speak for yourself on your own blog. All you do is cite outside sources.
lol, and you may just be the only person on earth that thinks an artificially low interest rate and encouraged investment into the housing market had nothing to do with real estate crashing.
And you think that an increase in the money supply has nothing to do with inflation...... when that is, in fact, the very definition of it. And the source you cite for that ridiculously stupid comment is the Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland? Rofl, you are a riot!
Corporations cannot exist without the state. Period.
Furthering your display of ignorance, you move on to cite an article which details a WTO initiative for the "full private stewardry of labor". Which cites a "free market" think tank that came up with the idea of "selling wales". Which would be market manipulation, which would not constitute a free market. Secondly, The WTO is an international regulatory body created by Governments around the world, and it is that body that is proposing private ownership of humans.
So explain to me how an international regulatory body (created by governments) advocating for slavery, is an example of the "free market".
You are without a doubt, the most confused man on earth
You have directly disproved nothing.
Again, please, define a free market in your own words. I know you don't want too. Because if you did define what a free market is, then you wouldn't be able to blame the worlds ills on it, and all those horrible writings on your blog would be grossly inaccurate.
Originally posted by aravoth
reply to post by drew hempel
Increasing the money supply is deflation....ok.... INFLATING THE MONEY SUPPLY IS DEFLATION ......GOT IT, MAKES PERFECT SENSE, glad you cleared that up for me.
The Founders believed that only the wealthy should rule, which is why our first president was so broke that he had to borrow money from a neighbor just to get to Washington to serve his term.... an excellent point you got there!
The cult of Chomsky is based unapplied speculative theory. again....
Corporations cannot exist in a free market, and WTO is a regulatory authority, which would not exist in a free market either.
Farmers Markets have regulations because regulatory bodies won't keep their hands off.
A free market, is absent all central regulation, all regulation.
You should be aware that every example you are using to shout down the free market actually illustrates exactly why regulation of commerce is the bane of man. Because nothing you cite is an example of a free market.
I don't have to read any of your works by the way, I've already read Chomsky, and all you are doing is regurgitating him.