Communist China is Free'r than Fascist America, Ben Fulford 3/24/10

www.youtube.com...

one of Ben's less intoxicated monthly conversation with Jeff Rense.
I think he pretty close on this one. thats why I am posting it.

I was really taken back by his comment that Chinese are free'r than Nazi America.
and I am in no postion to comment - I have been to china, I didnt like it. but at
the same time I didnt really see anything communist it was just like any other place - backward and polluted even back in the 80's.
four part interview .. food for thought

Really then how doyou explain the Chinese oppresion of Tibet and restriction of freedom of speech

lol hes not the one who has to explain anything

Its like... suburban china is communist, where as the city is more liberal. Its really weird, but i have read before that communism stops at the city.

This is a lie America is much more free try speaking out against the government in China and see what happens.


Last time I checked we could still vote and we still have free speech. We do need to keep both eyes open but this is way over the top and it is a lie.

The Chinese have to hack into proxy servers just to look at some no-name Japanese porn star and we're more oppressive than the Chinese government? Yeah, oooookay....

I've heard a few Fulford interviews, he might be a good person with good intentions but misled or he could be controlled opposition. IMO he's full of #.

Peep this article I just finished reading...

Thousands at risk of forced sterilization in China 22 April 2010 Authorities in southern China must not violate human rights in carrying out their reported plans to sterilize thousands of people this month in a drive to meet family planning targets, Amnesty International said on Thursday. According to Chinese media reports, officials in Puning City, Guangdong Province aim to sterilize 9,559 people, some against their will, by 26 April. The authorities started the campaign to sterilize people who already have at least one child on 7 April. Four days later, the authorities said they had already met 50 per cent of their target. A local doctor told the media his team was scheduled to work from 8am until 4am the following day. "Forced sterilizations carried out by officials amount to torture and the haste of the procedures raises questions about their safety and possible health impacts," said Roseann Rife, Amnesty International’s Asia-Pacific Deputy Director. The Puning City authorities are also reported to have detained 1,377 relatives of couples targeted for sterilization in an apparent attempt to pressure them to consent to having the operation.

www.amnesty.org...

The chinese government isn't any better than the u.s. but they are a little more honest, and don't sugar coat as much.

Originally posted by starwarsisreal
Really then how doyou explain the Chinese oppresion of Tibet and restriction of freedom of speech

Tibet has nothing on Iraq.
While the Communists in Tibet are ruthless, they are not spraying ordinary Tibetans with depleted uranium from helicopter gun ships.

As for freedom of speech, the ADL will crucify you if you say anything controversial that may offend their own very narrow and distorted view of the world.

China isn't communist...automatically negates the whole argument, of course the masonic ninja's with poisonous death rings may have ruined his credibility also. I think in the coming years we will see China open up and more freedoms granted, China is not as bad as many would like to claim but it certainly isn't free either.

Originally posted by Solomons
China isn't communist...automatically negates the whole argument, of course the masonic ninja's with poisonous death rings may have ruined his credibility also. I think in the coming years we will see China open up and more freedoms granted, China is not as bad as many would like to claim but it certainly isn't free either.

I agree, Hong Kong has shown the way forward for China.

The Chinese may be set in the ancient ways, but they are also clever enough to realize that the ancient ways may not work so well in the modern complex financial and technological world.

What eventually happens in Taiwan will probably be the next big test for China.

Nah!

We have ATS, Google and Youtube.

They have Our exported pollution from factories.

They loose

That is absolute horse stuff...if that was true, we would all have been shot a long time ago for posting here and saying some of the things we do, and exposing the things we do.

I suggest that he should move to this mythical Free China.

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I would certainly like to watch the Youtube video in your OP...however...I live in China, and thus, I am not free to watch Youtube. But I digress.

On the surface the statement 'China is more free than America' seems nuts. Aye, but there's the rub; in the major cities of China, on a day to day ordinary living basis, sometimes it does feel that China is more free.

It's hard to explain, and hey, I'm a Canadian; so I'm pretty well versed in what it means to be free.

At this very moment I am trying to figure out a way to articulate this sense of freedom and harmony in China...but I can't. For every example of 'freedom' I might point out, there would be the justified counter-example of 'soul-crushing stupidity'.

So, what is a failed Jedi Knight to say???

Well, here's a snippet from my life, as if that matters.

Sunday will be a warm, blue sky day in Beijing. Maybe I will go to The Temple Of Heaven (A Major tourist attraction AND a public park) and practice Martial Arts Weapons with all the old, local folks. That's right, I said weapons. We use the real things. That's real swords, real spears, real nine-section whips.

Now, I don't know about you, but I've got a feeling if I showed up in an American public park with a real sword, make that two real swords, one in each hand...well, let's just say I would probably be typing this from the back of a police cruiser.

Ah, maybe that was a stupid example.

Besides, though this is a very interesting topic, it's all academic.

No matter had bad the American Government may get the average American will still be a free-thinking, independent, man or woman of action.

While, no matter how free and open China's totally capatalist cities may become, the average Chinese citizen will remain a mentally-caged walking zombie.

Over here, they've got them by the minds.

Edit: For spelling



[edit on 22-4-2010 by univac500]

Well,I did not know who exactly this learned and knowledgeable person was so I looked him up on the esteemed web site Wikipedia.

Benjamin Fulford (born 1961) is a journalist of Canadian descent living in Japan as well as the Finance Reporter of Japan.

He has given a number of interviews to investigative journalists, and therein claimed amongst others that:

* AIDS and SARS are bio-engineered weapons designed to reduce the African ("Black") and Asian populations. AIDS was created to reduce the African population, and SARS was meant to reduce the Asian populations of the world.

* A Chinese secret society with a membership of 6 million (intellectuals like professors in various fields, scientists, politicians, etc.), this includes 1.8 million gangsters, and 100,000 professional assassins has issued an ultimatum to the Illuminati, warning them that if they persist with their plan to depopulate the earth, they will be killed. The society has created an alliance joining China, Russia, India, South America, ASEAN, the free Muslim nations and Africa that is united in stopping the Illuminati. [7]

* The 9/11 terrorist attacks were an "inside job" carried out by the US government as a false flag attack to bring about new imperial mobilization.

* The Pentagon, the oil industry, banking elite, and the pharmaceutical industry suppress inventions including free-energy and anti-gravity technology to maintain power.

* Since 2009, Fulford has stated that the US government, using a secret military program known as HAARP (High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program) has been altering the climate, and using high power microwave energy inducing earthquakes including the Asian Tsunami (2004) and earthquakes in Japan (1995), China (2008), Haiti (2010), Chile (2010).

Didn't think he would be an American.

Ever wonder how a poor journalist can afford to live in Japan,one of the most expensive places to live on the planet?

I wonder how long he has been a member of ATS?

[edit on 22-4-2010 by Oneolddude]

reply to post by univac500


Thanks for that well thought and insightful post.
If you hadn't stated a few things like not being able to watch the video or that you were a Canadian then I would have just passed the post up.

Star for your observation.

Originally posted by univac500
Sunday will be a warm, blue sky day in Beijing. Maybe I will go to The Temple Of Heaven (A Major tourist attraction AND a public park) and practice Martial Arts Weapons with all the old, local folks. That's right, I said weapons. We use the real things. That's real swords, real spears, real nine-section whips.

reply to post by starwarsisreal

Really then how doyou explain the Chinese oppresion of Tibet and restriction of freedom of speech

Really?

What do you *KNOW* about Tibet?

I mean, of course... *OTHER* than what the US Governmental Regime, and the Military Industrial Media Complex have been *TELLING* you...



-Edrick (Learn Something)

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Thanks SLAYER. Coming from you that's high praise, indeed.

And, attention, cupocoffee: you quoted me, then followed with only a Youtube video. Are you taunting me, man? Because you know, in China, we can't view Youtube. So, what's on the video?

You can't even play WOW WOTLK over there unless they finally edited it enough. You can't search the web for Tibet massacre. More free my butt. This guy is off his rocker.

Of course communism isn't a good thing but China is a different type of communism it's communism with capitalism and they do, do some things better then America.

reply to post by univac500


If you want YouTube in china, this is what you do.
www.google.com
search for european search engine's, EuroSeek etc.
bounce between as many as you can and the go to
AltaVista.com and type in www.aol.com and then
see if you can pull youtube through aol or netzero
or the like ISP's who are linked to YouTube video's
you will need to launder your search before your
destination... like 7 - 15 hops.
this should do the trick unless they using something
other than the stuff we worked on. which was good
but we left this hop thing open after 8 or so hops.