Okay, so , now that we’ve covered those particular point, here are some more references to skin color in the Bible:
KJV Song of Solomon 5:10-11 My beloved is white (tzach) and ruddy (’adom), the chiefest among ten thousand. His head is as the most fine gold, his
locks are bushy, and black as a raven.
5:14-15 His hands are as gold rings set with beryl: his belly is as bright as ivory (shen) overlaid with sapphires. His legs are as pillars of marble,
set upon sockets of fine gold: his countenance is as Lebanon, excellent as the cedars.
7:3-4 Thy breasts are as two young roes that are twins. Thy neck is as a tower of ivory (shen); thine eyes like fish pools in Heshbon, by the gate of
Bath-rabbim: thy nose is as the tower of Lebanon which looketh toward Damascus.
white 6703 sah/tzach, a. radiant, shimmering, scorching, clear.
White may not be listed in the definition, but the root verb 6705 sahah/tzachach means only “to be white”.
ivory 8127 shen, n.f. & m. tooth (human or animal); by extension: anything tooth shaped; rocky crag
The word in Hebrew that means “ivory” specifcally is 8143 shen-habbim. However, “shen” is translated as ivory many other times, including the verses
describing Solomon's throne of ivory, and Ahab's palace of the same substance. Only in 1 Ki 10:22 and 2 Ch 9:21, both of which describe the
shipments of ivory and other precious objects brought from Tarshish every three years during King Solomon's reign, is the word 'shenhabbim' used.
So then, 'shen' is properly translated ivory in certain contexts.
ruddy 122 ‘adom, a. red; ruddy (skin)
Also interesting is the name Lebanon 3844 Lebanon, n.pr.loc. Lebanon, "white, snow" . This of course is from 3835-37 laban which means “to make
white” as a verb and “white” as a noun. The father of Rachel and Leah, Jacob/Israel's two chief wives, was Laban or “White“.
The following verses are also interesting.
KJV Song of Solomon 1:5-6
1:5 I am black, but comely, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, as the tents of Kedar, as the curtains of Solomon.
1:6 Look not upon me, because I am black, because the sun hath looked upon me: my mother's children were angry with me; they made me the keeper of
the vineyards; but mine own vineyard have I not kept.
The Hebrew word translated black in verse 5 is 7838 shachor, a. black, dark, while the one translated as such in verse 6 is 7840
s'harhor/shecharchor, a. dark, swarthy (complexion).
Some might believe this points to a wife of Solomon being African, but that’s not necessarily the case. (Although it is possible, as Solomon had an
overabundance of wives and concubines, many of them identified as being foreign, pagan women. See 1 Kings 11.) Anyway, it's quite possible that the
woman singing to Solomon actually just has a very deep sun-tan after being made to work outside in the vineyards by her family. Some Caucasians
capable of developing very dark complexions after spending their entire lives in the sun.
KJV 1 Samuel 16:12 And he (Jesse) sent and brought him (David) in. Now he was ruddy (’admoni), and withal of beautiful countenance, and goodly to look
to. And the LORD (YHWH) said, Arise , and anoint him: for this is he.
KJV 1 Samuel 17:42 And when the Philistine looked about, and saw David, he disdained him: for he was but a youth, and ruddy (’admoni), and of a fair
ruddy 132 'admoni, a. red; ruddy (skin)
It may very well be that the “sons of God” of were fair-haired and fair-skinned, perhaps even blonde-haired and blue-eyed. Certainly they must have
been taller than the children of Adam. But I wonder if one of the reasons they were attracted to the females of Seth’s line was because they were of
KJV Genesis 6:1-7
1. And it came to pass, when men (ha-'adam) began to multiply on the face of the earth ('adamah), and daughters (baht) were born unto them,
2. That the sons of God (bnei ha-'Elohim) saw the daughters of men (banot-ha-'adam) that they were fair (tobah); and they took them wives of all
which they chose.
2896 tob, a. & n.m. good, pleasing, desirable; goodness; this can refer to quality as well as moral goodness.
Note that the word “fair” in Genesis ch. 2 is not a reference to complexion, but to the quality and desirability of the women.
Of course it might not be the case that the daughters of ha-’adam resembled the “sons of God” in their appearance. The possibility just occurred to
me, so I thought I’d mention it. Anyway, not all Caucasians are tall and fair-haired. I myself have reddish-brown hair, brown eyes (though they were
hazel when I was younger) and am just under 5 feet 8 inches tall.
Well, I understand that the information contained in the last two posts is probably very offensive to some people, but all I’m doing is examining the
Scriptural evidence I have before me. If anyone believes I've errored in any of the above statements and interpretations, please feel free to point
it out. But please be assured that I don't believe Caucasians are any better or more righteous than any other people on this planet. I'm well
aware that many Caucasians are extermely ignorant and deplorably wicked. Morevover, I do most definitely believe that the salvation of Yahweh
through His Son Yahshua is open to all races of mankind, whether black, white, red, or yellow. Although Yahshua does seem to preclude the serpent
Matthew 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
The word translated as "generation" is the Greek, genema
. Genema actually means "fruit, product, yield, harvest; offspring, or brood".
"Vipers" is the Greek word, echidna
, which may mean snake or viper. According to the Webster's College Dictionary, the Echidna is also a
mythical creature that gave birth to the hydra (six-headed serpent in Greek mythology) and other monsters.
Again he condemns the children of the devil in the Gospel of John chapter 8:
41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.
42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because
there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?
47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
So, while it is not a very popular idea these days, Yahshua does seem to identify certain people who are incapable of being saved.
KJV Romans 9:18-24
18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?
20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,
24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
Undomiel, if you believe my conclusions about the racial make-up of the ancient Israelites are unreasonable and hold no merit whatsoever, please help
me to see the error of my ways. I really just want to find out what the truth is. I can't say I wouldn't be disappointed if what I've learned
about the Lost Tribes of Israel is not true, but I could deal with it. Also, I'm curious to know what you think of the belief some hold that many of
the modern Jews are not actually Israelites at all. Here's a link to a thread I started on this subject earlier:
I'll look forward to getting your opinion on this and other matters.
[edit on 17-6-2004 by Ischyros]