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reply posted on 22-4-2010 @ 11:25 AM by JIMC5499
reply to post by jonnyc55


Spherical abberation of the reflection on the helmet. You basically end up with a image that resembles a drawing with four point perspective.

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reply posted on 22-4-2010 @ 11:25 AM by DJW001
reply to post by jonnyc55


The man in the reflection took the photograph. He is turned to his right, which is why the reflection is on the left hand side of the photograph. The resolution is not good enough to make out the details of his gear. The image is also distorted by the curvature of the reflecting surface.


reply posted on 22-4-2010 @ 11:31 AM by okbmd
reply to post by eNumbra


And if you did your research , you'd know that the LRV had a mounted t.v. camera on it .

Further research on your part would show you that the orbiter was also equipped with cameras .



reply posted on 22-4-2010 @ 11:32 AM by jonnyc55
reply to post by DJW001

Yeah i analyzed this picture furthermore and i also thought the same thing, the guy is turning to his side while taking the photo but like you say, its hard with poorish resolution photos like these to make out for sure he's doing exactly this.


reply posted on 22-4-2010 @ 11:34 AM by eNumbra
Originally posted by okbmd
reply to post by eNumbra


And if you did your research , you'd know that the LRV had a mounted t.v. camera on it .

Further research on your part would show you that the orbiter was also equipped with cameras .

And that has what to do with what? Or did you quote the wrong person?

Where is the LRV in the image to have taken the picture. Seems to me it should be right about where the reflected astronaut is standing.

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reply posted on 22-4-2010 @ 11:38 AM by DJW001
reply to post by ppk55


Look at the entire photo, not just the close-up on the visor. The reflecting surface is at the extreme left side of the composition. The reflected figure is pointed towards the center of the picture.


reply posted on 22-4-2010 @ 11:39 AM by scraze
reply to post by jonnyc55


I agree, the question to answer is whether the photo could have been taken the way NASA said it was. I tried to answer that in the first post for a bit, but I might have been too hasty.

While some have said that the angle is wrong, I have to disagree. I'd like to split it up in two different aspects; the direction Schmitt is in, and the angle he is in.

The direction relates to which way Schmitt is facing, and if that is the correct direction to have taken the photograph. In the reflection, we see Schmitt looking to the right. Since it is a reflection, the 'original' Schmitt is looking to the right as well. That is, to the right of the origin of reflection, Cernan's helmet. Whether he is turned away too far or not, at any rate he is looking to the right of Cernan, which matches to the focus of the photo. He is not facing the wrong way.

Then the question remains whether the distortion of the reflection could be so heavy that we perceive Schmitt to be standing almost perpendicular to the reflection. We can't see Schmitt's right arm (his left arm in the reflection), so he's definitely at some angle. However, we can see a large portion of his front, but nothing of his backside. So he's not quite at the angle he seems to be; he wouldn't have to turn much to be looking directly at the helmet. In fact, it might be just the small turn required to get Cernan on the center of the photo.. ?


reply posted on 22-4-2010 @ 11:44 AM by ppk55
yeah, but why does the little guy in the visor reflection have dark legs

history.nasa.gov...

I've never seen a photo of astronauts with dark pants. Also, his arms looks strange, and he's facing the wrong way to take a photo of this scene, and where is his life preserving backpack ?

come on !


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reply posted on 22-4-2010 @ 11:47 AM by Ophiuchus 13
reply to post by Frakkerface


I thought he was holding something in his hands and it doesnt look like a normal space suit he or she is wearing, either way s&f for a great find.


reply posted on 22-4-2010 @ 11:54 AM by wmd_2008
reply to post by ppk55


You can see his backpack look at his shadow in the helmet reflection!!!

Looks like something on his chest as well look at shadow!!

Hardluck guys Photography is a blackart to some on here.



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reply posted on 22-4-2010 @ 11:56 AM by agentofchaos
reply to post by ppk55


Well atleast I see your dilemma with the photograph now. I admit it took a second to see what the problem was. To me, it looks like they might be facing the same direction. It's a confusing angle to me; he looks like he took the picture right next to him, but the reflection says otherwise. I guess the camera could have just zoomed in or maybe it was a camera from their moon-mobile, but wouldn't that be in the reflection? Also, does the guy in the reflection have something in his hand or do you think he had nothing to do with it? S & F and now you got my attention aswell.


reply posted on 22-4-2010 @ 12:00 PM by PsykoOps
reply to post by ppk55


What you mean staged? I don't understand. Staged or not someone had to take the shot.
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