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reply posted on 21-6-2010 @ 01:30 PM by KSigMason
reply to post by ReHaBzWuRdZ


So you don't believe in integrity or following your vows/obligations?

reply to post by Archirvion


This is completely false.

reply to post by ReHaBzWuRdZ


Well, I don't have this much time to waste on videos. All the videos that have been posted I have torn apart as have most of the Masons here. Most of the videos are either images or video clips of irrelevant information with some kind of spooky music in the background. Most non-Masons don't even understand the basic hierarchy of the Masons. Most think its like a pyramid and that the Scottish Rite is the supreme body just because there are numbers attached to the degrees. So many don't know the history of the degrees and various appendant bodies.

I've heard other people that have said they've done their research that claim that we Freemasons are pedophiles, conduct blood rituals, and other absurd claims. And why is it on sites like this, the conspiracy theorists claim to be good, but are the ones with their teeth bared and often are the ones that seem to hold sinister motive?

And so as you know, I did do an abundant amount of research before joining. Real research, not just looking at videos on YouTube.



reply posted on 21-6-2010 @ 08:07 PM by Fitzgibbon
Originally posted by ReHaBzWuRdZ
"is their no help for the widows son?"


Uh huh.....

Yeah.....

Right.....

And.....?

Was there supposed to be something in there to bring all conversation to a screeching halt or something?

Absent an acknowledgement, I'll just draw my as-yet-unanswered question from
this post.

Originally posted by Fitzgibbon
Sorry but why should I (or JN or anybody else for that matter) tie up all that time just on your say-so? Is it too much to ask for your overview on why these YouTube videos trump the actual, real-life knowledge of a Mason?

Fitz


A deep, detailed reply isn't necessary. Just a quick succinct explanation about why I (or anybody else for that matter) should make that time investment. If it's meaningful in any real fashion, the answer should be easy enough for you.


reply posted on 21-6-2010 @ 10:37 PM by Fitzgibbon
reply to post by FarmerGeneral



Very nicely put, FarmerGeneral.

In all the ragging back and forth here, it's sometimes too easy to overlook the commonalities that bind us all. Such transient myopia is one of the distressing habits of human nature.

Nice post.

Fitz


reply posted on 30-6-2010 @ 07:42 AM by Masonic Light
reply to post by LorD99



In the Eastern Star, there is only one fee, which is paid previous to initiation. The fee varies from Chapter to Chapter, but is usually less than $100.

After this, members pay annual dues, also usually less than $100 per year.


reply posted on 30-6-2010 @ 10:40 AM by AlBeMet
reply to post by FarmerGeneral



Very well stated.

As one of the very first members of ATS and recently Master Mason, I must say the ATS Freemasons have done a fine job dispelling the myths.
I am happy to call you Brothers.

Side note:
There is nothing in the oaths that give up your soul as most anti-mason would have you believe. If there was I would have never continued! I think the whole experience has brought me closer to GOD and my community.

That is all.


-H.A.


reply posted on 30-6-2010 @ 11:18 AM by Korg Trinity
Originally posted by AlBeMet
reply to
post by FarmerGeneral



Very well stated.

As one of the very first members of ATS and recently Master Mason, I must say the ATS Freemasons have done a fine job dispelling the myths.
I am happy to call you Brothers.

Side note:
There is nothing in the oaths that give up your soul as most anti-mason would have you believe. If there was I would have never continued! I think the whole experience has brought me closer to GOD and my community.

That is all.


-H.A.


Well now my thread has brought some very interesting members to the table.

I thank you all for your input

Korg.



reply posted on 30-6-2010 @ 11:36 AM by KSigMason
reply to post by Masonic Light


I paid $35 for initiation and then $15 a year for dues.
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