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why are the gods all men, with the exception of the whole inana/isis/astoreth thing, which is characterized in just about every abrahamic belief system as intrinsically evil and attached to sorcery?
having a penis has nothing to do with heaven
you could say, well there are lodges for women now. BUT THERE WASN'T FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS!
so clearly, for thousands of years, women were not allowed divine knowledge? who's idea was that? just what in the sam hill is going on?
Originally posted by americandingbat
Originally posted by Fitzgibbon
He logged-on yesterday. If he was inclined to clarify the holes in his story, he could have. Given that this thread apparently made it onto the front page of ATS (and that it's been at the top of the SS forum), I sincerely doubt that he's "unaware".
I just want to point out that in the time zone that the OP says he posted from, it would already have been 4/22 when he logged off of ATS the night he first posted this thread. I'm pretty sure the 'last login' datestamps in our profiles are based on the time zone we're posting from, because I know that I've seen people whose last login date was tomorrow for me.
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
I in fact hope for Vincent's sake he is not a Mason, for if he is, it won't be long before he is made to pay a price for this thread, if in fact, he is not paying one already.
See, through a series of carefully veiled intimidation, the truth is Vincent was scared right off this thread, because there are real penalties to be paid for a Mason betraying any secrets of the Order.
I can surely understand, why finding out if Vinnie is a Mason is so relevant!
I'd assume if such a place exist that indeed having a penis is not required for entry... but it is for Masonry.. which is not heaven, it's a fraternity.
Masonry hasn't existed for thousands of years, and it grew out of a Patriarchal society (English Law, unlike something like say brehon law) .. it was rare in European societies at the time of Masonry's conception to allow women to join such organizations.. Masonry has not changed much since that time.
The Order of the Eastern Star is the largest fraternal organization in the world that both men and women can join. It was established in 1850 by Rob Morris, a lawyer and educator from Boston, Massachusetts, who had been an official with the Freemasons. It is based on teachings from the Bible, but is open to people of all monotheistic faiths. It has approximately 10,000 chapters in twenty countries and approximately one million members under its General Grand Chapter. Members of the Order are aged 18 and older; men must be Master Masons and women must have specific relationships with Masons. Originally, a woman would have to be the daughter, widow, wife, sister, or mother of a master Mason, but the Order now allows other relatives as well as allowing Job's Daughters, Rainbow Girls, and Triangle Girls to become members when they become of age.
Now if they worshiped this "head" and believed it was the head of Jesus, they perhaps considered the physical head as proof that Jesus was just a man and not God. Someone help me here. What is the traditional interpretation of what happened to the physical body of Jesus? Did it ascend or something along those lines?
The Order of the Eastern Star logo is actually a Christian Morning Star. It used to be quite a common Christian symbol.
The only price that he would pay for lying is his credibility on this forum.
Or maybe he got caught lying?
I am sure that you do, since if he lied about this then other aspects of his story may also be untrue.
In all serious Proto, if he came here and said he fabricated that part about being a Mason; how would that affect your opinion of him in regards truthfulness overall?