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Nibiru This, Nibiru That: STOP, You've been punked!

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posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 02:55 AM
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Here is some more information, for those who are truly interested in the Hopi Prophecies, about some of what according to Hopi prophecy will occur, and what has happened, such as the Blue Star appearance known as comet Holmes.


Monday, November 26, 2007

A Blue Star in our Solar System Bigger than the Sun. Does this relate to prophecy?
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Ancient Hopi prophecy states, "When the Blue Star makes its appearance in the heavens, the Fifth World will emerge"

A spectacular explosion caused comet 17P/Holmes to increase in size and brightness on October 24. The comet is now a half a million times brighter than before the eruption began. It continues to expand and is now the largest single object in the Solar system, being bigger than the Sun. The eruption continues at a steady 0.5 km/sec (1100 mph) rate. Holmes is still visible to the naked eye as a fuzzy star anytime after dark, high in the northeast sky. It is faintly visible from cities, and from dark country locations is truly remarkable.
www.ifa.hawaii.edu...

This is an astounding story. When an object suddenly, unexpectedly, appears in our solar system THAT IS BIGGER THAN THE SUN, and can be seen with the naked eye, and is BLUE, it could be one of those heavenly events like the Star of Bethlehem that foretell coming events. I would also call your attention to the seven seals in Revelations (I'll write more about that when I have time.)
From the Hopi:
"The return of the Blue Star (also known as Nan ga sohu Katchina) will be the alarm clock that tells us of the new day and new way of life, a new world that is coming. This is where the changes will begin. They will start as fires that burn within us, and we will burn up with desires and conflict if we do not remember the original teachings, and return to the peaceful way of life.

"Not far behind the twins will come the Purifier the Red Katchina, who will bring the Day of Purification. On this day the Earth, her creatures and all life as we know it will change forever. There will be messengers that will precede this coming of the Purifier. They will leave messages to those on Earth who remember the old ways.

" The messages will be found written in the living stone, through the sacred grains, and even the waters. (these could be the crop circles which have been found even in ice) From the Purifier will issue forth a great Red Light. All things will change in their manner of being. Every living thing will be offered the opportunity to change from the largest to the smallest thing."

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What follows are two longer expositions of Hopi prophecy. Note that the events listed below were predicted many centuries ago and have been passed down. They were also all carved into Prophecy Rock at Hopi many, many years ago:

The Nine Signs of Hopi Prophecy
From White Feather, Bear Clan, Hopi Tribe

"These are the Signs that great destruction is here: The world shall rock to and fro. The white man will battle people in other lands -- those who possessed the first light of wisdom. There will be many columns of smoke and fire such as the white man has made in the deserts not far from here. Those who stay and live in the places of the Hopi shall be safe. Then there will be much to rebuild. And soon, very soon afterward, Pahana will return. He shall bring with him the dawn of the Fifth World. He shall plant the seeds of his wisdom in our hearts. Even now the seeds are being planted. These shall smooth the way to the Emergence into the Fifth World."
The Fourth World shall end soon, and the Fifth World will begin. This the elders everywhere know. The Signs over many years have been fulfilled, and so few are left.

First Sign: We were told of the coming of the white-skinned men, like Pahana, but not living like Pahana -- men who took the land that was not theirs and who struck their enemies with thunder. (Guns)

Second Sign: Our lands will see the coming of spinning wheels filled with voices. (Covered wagons)

Third Sign: A strange beast like a buffalo but with great long horns, will overrun the land in large numbers. (Longhorn cattle)

Fourth Sign: The land will be crossed by snakes of iron. (Railroad tracks)

Fifth Sign: The land shall be cris-crossed by a giant spider's web. (Power and telephone lines)

Sixth Sign: The land shall be cris-crossed with rivers of stone that make pictures in the sun. (Concrete roads and their mirage-producing effects.)
Seventh Sign: You will hear of the sea turning black, and many living things dying because of it. (Oil spills)

Eighth Sign: You will see many youth, who wear their hair long like our people, come and join the tribal nations, to learn our ways and wisdom. (Hippies)

Ninth and Last Sign: You will hear of a dwelling-place in the heavens, above the earth, that shall fall with a great crash. It will appear as a blue star. Very soon after this, the ceremonies of the Hopi people will cease.

www.joyharjo.com...


[edit on 22-4-2010 by ElectricUniverse]




posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 04:16 AM
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reply to post by Maristo316
 



Originally posted by Maristo316

Who translated these texts and who funded their work? What interests to these 'translators' have in this?


The translations are from the Faculty of Oriental Studies from the University of Oxford. If you were bothered to simply click on the sourced links you would have seen that.

reply to post by ElectricUniverse
 


Can you find me a tablet which states that the Annunaki were intelligent beings who lived on a planet called Nibiru? Can you? No you can't, and until you can, the main point of my argument in the opening post remains concrete.


Originally posted by ElectricUniverse


Nibiru is seen as both a dark planet, and dark star because the Gods are supposed to live in it, hence why it is also seen as a planet...


Ok... I've supported everything I've said in my OP with extracts from tablets and listed sources. Where is your source for this? That Gods lived on NIbiru and it was their home planet?... Second, you are completely missing the point of my opening post. I am arguing that there is no planet called NIBIRU which is beyond Pluto and orbits every 3600 years, if you want to debunk that, then I'm all ears.


Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
... unit which cannot be explained except for the existance of dark matter, or a Dead star, which is causing the increase in the distance between the Sun and the planets in the Solar System....



Once again. Re-read the OP. You are missing the point of the thread. Stop derailing.
reply to post by OzWeatherman
 



Originally posted by OzWeatherman
The OP is simply making baseless claims with no backing evidence.



Ummm... where have I done this?



posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 04:22 AM
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Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
I just want all these people who keep claiming there is no red planet/star, etc to explain to me then what is causing comets to arrive days earlier.... what is causing the increase in the distance between the planets and the Sun which cannot be explain by any models we currently have except for dark matter, or...a Dead Star....

Let me know when you think you got the answer.


This thread is about the Nibiru hoax. Stop posting off-topic information.

STOP DERAILING THIS THREAD, NONE OF YOUR POSTS HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE OP.

reply to post by muzzleflash
 



Originally posted by muzzleflash


There is no way to know if any Nibiru crap is true or not. It's all a mystery and the ONLY WAY TO KNOW is to WAIT AND SEE.


Yes there is, its in the OP, Nibiru is not real ... You, like many others in this thread, have not even bothered to read the OP before commenting. I'll just start reporting off-topic comments from now on.



posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 04:30 AM
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Originally posted by tribewilder
Excellent thread, very well researched and presented.

The only problem is....You are making sense!!!!



But think of all the dreams you are crushing with your revelations.

Think of the children....please...



The closer Nibiru gets to us around 2012 and as we enter the 4'th dimension on the 3'rd plane of existence, people will start making more and more sense, dontchya know!

Only those fools who tell us we're wrong will be left behind, scratching their tactile heads in wonderment about where they went wrong.

We'll be all pew pew Im a energy being now!!11



I kid I kid......



posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 05:37 AM
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Ok, for anyone who doesn't notice right away... Go take a look at the flag of Israel (outlined in BLUE).

As for the possible depiction of planets, I count 13, possibly only 12... the "13th" resides in the vicinity of the seated giant's staff just below the other further out 'planet'.

I say "giant", because he is clearly SEATED and is at eye level (which i have marked in black) to the others whom are clearly STANDING. I attempted to use MS paint to straight him and display the significance however my skills/paint isn't quite up to par. (anyone who is feel free!)

Circled in green is to me a mystery, perhaps to others obvious - note the one fellow is holding the arm and seemingly 'bringing' him to the seated party. Speculate why at will, although relatively immaterial.

Circled with multicolor was something i sorted stumbled on when viewing with a 'zoom'. I realize... and am the first to realize... it may seem a little like I am milking this tablet, and 'seeing what i want to see'... that is not the case, and i am not that type of person with that sort of psyche. I simply circled it because i thought it looked an awful lot like the hammer and scythe of the former U.S.S.R (soviet socialist republic) now slightly fragmented Russia. You be the judge (i myself claim nothing here, ultimate speculation... but it DOES look like it to me!) *i could also easily draw conclusions as to why/how given the geography/history of the areas.

Hope you enjoy... I'm not looking to boost my ego, so don't bother trying to 'insult' me , I like others only wish to share information... as i said before I claim nothing, these are my perceptions and observations and i VALUE any information to lead me to further or (a completely different) version (more accurate) of the truth.



posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 05:44 AM
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For those of you whom are too busy, or simply too lazy:





and for comparison of the Hammer and Scythe I speculated upon and introduced.




And for those of you (like myself) whom have slight difficult recalling the entire layout of the solar system...




Mav.



posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 06:21 AM
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Originally posted by serbsta

reply to post by muzzleflash
 



Originally posted by muzzleflash


There is no way to know if any Nibiru crap is true or not. It's all a mystery and the ONLY WAY TO KNOW is to WAIT AND SEE.


Yes there is, its in the OP, Nibiru is not real ... You, like many others in this thread, have not even bothered to read the OP before commenting. I'll just start reporting off-topic comments from now on.


#1 I actually read the entire thread. If you could view my page view history you would see that is Fact.

#2 I considered myself to be defending your thread.

#3 By saying no one knows, I am correct. If you think you KNOW , you are delusional.

To think I was actually defending you and stuff, only for you to turn around and bite my hand.

I believe my contribution was totally on topic.

I am afraid you are no better than the zealots you claim are bunk, because you also claim to have unknowable knowledge just like they do.

The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.

Also, just for the record, I consider myself a Neutral party here. I think both sides are somewhat fanatical and I would rather just WAIT AND SEE.

It's like you think words and pictures on the internet = proof. That is hilarious!


[edit on 22-4-2010 by muzzleflash]



posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 08:56 AM
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ok Throwing my senses again here again people !

Op your absolutely right ! Nibiru is the called the crossing even stichen said that He Named it that

The Annunaki means those are from heaven to earth they came ( royal/prince blood)

Source
en.wikipedia.org...

The Hidden Bible codes site !
this is funny and scary at the same time !!
Annunaki -
Found In Genesis 25:32
Also known as Jedi, or Nephilim ????? Jedi ? what ?
source
www.hiddencodes.com...

Look at the Links below
www.jweekly.com...
staugustine.com...

Could ? Jedi mean something in the Jewish religion?
other than Nephilim?

Annunaki hybrid ! ? or someone like Anakin Skywalker ! his first name say alot ! what do i mean by this ! see for your self or your own research

Anakin mix the letters abit Annaki = Annunaki ahh heck dont even bother mixing

the sons of Anak from the bible Nephilim
source of Anak en.wikipedia.org...

source of Nephilim of Anakim en.wikipedia.org...

it makes you think That Scifi movies might just have some what half truths ?
when i saw The Word Jedi in the Hidden Bible codes Site ! WTF ? time to do some research and i did and this is what i found so far maybe i should of put this in a thread or did someone beat me to it ?

ohh about Nibiru ! on Space.com they call it Nemesis or Sedna

here is something to think about this is for the skeptics
a snippit from the source




We may not have an answer to the Nemesis question until mid-2013. WISE needs to scan the sky twice in order to generate the time-lapsed images astronomers use to detect objects in the outer solar system. The change in location of an object between the time of the first scan and the second tells astronomers about the object's location and orbit. "I don't suspect we'll have completed the search for candidate objects until mid-2012, and then we may need up to a year of time to complete telescopic follow-up of those objects," said Kirkpatrick.


the source ! look at the images on this site on the right of Sedna
www.space.com...

From NASA about the Dark Star ! & SEDNA
www.nasa.gov...


oh WOW it does look like Stichen's claimed elongated Orbital Path doesn't of what he called Nibiru ? look at link below!

www.space.com... s+image+is+Sedna%2C+a+dwarf+planet+with+a+12%2C000-year+orbit+around+the+Sun.+It%27s+a+mystery+why+Sedna+has+such+an+elongated+orbit.







[edit on 22-4-2010 by Wolfenz]

[edit on 22-4-2010 by Wolfenz]



posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 09:02 AM
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Originally posted by muzzleflash


I am afraid you are no better than the zealots you claim are bunk, because you also claim to have unknowable knowledge just like they do.

The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.

[edit on 22-4-2010 by muzzleflash]


Sorry mate... I really don't care for the whole 'taking sides' thing over the internet. You don't know me, I don't know you... who cares?

Anyway.

Once again, if you've read the information posted you would not claim it is 'unknowable'. So its most likely a case of you not understanding properly, I don't mean to be rude with that. It's like me claiming that a H20 water molecule was made of 2 hydrogen and 1 oxygen and then providing scientific data to show how this is in essence, proven fact. There is proof showing what Nibiru is and what Nibiru isn't. Nibiru is not a planet orbiting outside of Pluto coming every 3600 years, there is nothing of the sort in Sumerian literature, do you understand that? So I don't see how its 'unknowable', there is plenty of evidence making it easy for anyone to 'know' if they just take the time to do so.

The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, I can agree in some respect. Except we don't have an absence of evidence here, we have PLENTY of evidence telling us what Nibiru actually means.



posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by Wolfenz
ok Throwing my senses again here again people !

Op your absolutely right ! Nibiru is the called the crossing even stichen said that He Named it that

The Annunaki means those are from heaven to earth they came ( royal/prince blood)

Source
en.wikipedia.org...

The Hidden Bible codes site !
this is funny and scary at the same time !!
Annunaki -
Found In Genesis 25:32
Also known as Jedi, or Nephilim ????? Jedi ? what ?
source
www.hiddencodes.com...

Look at the Links below
www.jweekly.com...
staugustine.com...

Could ? Jedi mean something in the Jewish religion?
other than Nephilim?

Annunaki hybrid ! ? or someone like Anakin Skywalker ! his first name say alot ! what do i mean by this ! see for your self or your own research

Anakin mix the letters abit Annaki = Annunaki ahh heck dont even bother mixing

the sons of Anak from the bible Nephilim
source of Anak en.wikipedia.org...

source of Nephilim of Anakim en.wikipedia.org...

it makes you think That Scifi movies might just have some what half truths ?
when i saw The Word Jedi in the Hidden Bible codes Site ! WTF ? time to do some research and i did and this is what i found so far maybe i should of put this in a thread or did someone beat me to it ?

ohh about Nibiru ! on Space.com they call it Nemesis or Sedna

here is something to think about this is for the skeptics
a snippit from the source




We may not have an answer to the Nemesis question until mid-2013. WISE needs to scan the sky twice in order to generate the time-lapsed images astronomers use to detect objects in the outer solar system. The change in location of an object between the time of the first scan and the second tells astronomers about the object's location and orbit. "I don't suspect we'll have completed the search for candidate objects until mid-2012, and then we may need up to a year of time to complete telescopic follow-up of those objects," said Kirkpatrick.


the source ! look at the images on this site on the right of Sedna
www.space.com...

From NASA about the Dark Star ! & SEDNA
www.nasa.gov...


oh WOW it does look like Stichen's claimed elongated Orbital Path doesn't of what he called Nibiru ? look at link below!

www.space.com... s+image+is+Sedna%2C+a+dwarf+planet+with+a+12%2C000-year+orbit+around+the+Sun.+It%27s+a+mystery+why+Sedna+has+such+an+elongated+orbit.







[edit on 22-4-2010 by Wolfenz]

[edit on 22-4-2010 by Wolfenz]

The straw grasping in your post is astounding, I just hope you really don't believe that.
And by the way, Sedna is a trans-neptunian object, not anything to do with nibiru or nemesis.



posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 03:20 PM
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i also don't think nibiru has to do with 'end times'

i do think its real though, and that it could accelerate with its unusual orbit. while 2012 might be [or seem] a little soon, we don't have too much data on how atypical orbital patterns can be or do.



posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 03:28 PM
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well if Sitchin said 2030 that may not be far off. According to the theory a source gave me it may appear in the southern hemisphere around 2012 or even sooner (and yes, enough for people to see it with a naked eye) and it's closest approach being anywhere from 2015-2030.



posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by The Quiet Storm
well if Sitchin said 2030 that may not be far off. According to the theory a source gave me it may appear in the southern hemisphere around 2012 or even sooner (and yes, enough for people to see it with a naked eye) and it's closest approach being anywhere from 2015-2030.

Which source would that be?



posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 03:42 PM
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Originally posted by hippomchippo

Originally posted by The Quiet Storm
well if Sitchin said 2030 that may not be far off. According to the theory a source gave me it may appear in the southern hemisphere around 2012 or even sooner (and yes, enough for people to see it with a naked eye) and it's closest approach being anywhere from 2015-2030.

Which source would that be?


lol can't say.



posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 04:36 PM
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LOL OP is having a mental breakdown! Sitchin also states that Nibiru will show itself around the age of Pisces. But hey when it comes to aliens it seems some people don't want to believe it. But strangely enough people would believe Darwinism or Jesus would walk on water and say that is fact.



posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 04:48 PM
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Originally posted by The Quiet Storm

Originally posted by hippomchippo

Originally posted by The Quiet Storm
well if Sitchin said 2030 that may not be far off. According to the theory a source gave me it may appear in the southern hemisphere around 2012 or even sooner (and yes, enough for people to see it with a naked eye) and it's closest approach being anywhere from 2015-2030.

Which source would that be?


lol can't say.

Then why say anything at all?



posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 04:57 PM
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Originally posted by MavRck



Ok, for anyone who doesn't notice right away... Go take a look at the flag of Israel (outlined in BLUE).

As for the possible depiction of planets, I count 13, possibly only 12... the "13th" resides in the vicinity of the seated giant's staff just below the other further out 'planet'.

I say "giant", because he is clearly SEATED and is at eye level (which i have marked in black) to the others whom are clearly STANDING. I attempted to use MS paint to straight him and display the significance however my skills/paint isn't quite up to par. (anyone who is feel free!)

Circled in green is to me a mystery, perhaps to others obvious - note the one fellow is holding the arm and seemingly 'bringing' him to the seated party. Speculate why at will, although relatively immaterial.

Circled with multicolor was something i sorted stumbled on when viewing with a 'zoom'. I realize... and am the first to realize... it may seem a little like I am milking this tablet, and 'seeing what i want to see'... that is not the case, and i am not that type of person with that sort of psyche. I simply circled it because i thought it looked an awful lot like the hammer and scythe of the former U.S.S.R (soviet socialist republic) now slightly fragmented Russia. You be the judge (i myself claim nothing here, ultimate speculation... but it DOES look like it to me!) *i could also easily draw conclusions as to why/how given the geography/history of the areas.

Hope you enjoy... I'm not looking to boost my ego, so don't bother trying to 'insult' me , I like others only wish to share information... as i said before I claim nothing, these are my perceptions and observations and i VALUE any information to lead me to further or (a completely different) version (more accurate) of the truth.



Exactly. I'm not too sure about the Israel or U.S.S.R hammer in there, but the giant and the 13 celestial bodies are clear as day for me if is to take the that star in there as our Sun. And if one of those allegedly planets is to represent Nibiru I would say it's the 13th near the center of the seal (image) between the human and the "giant" and not the 12th on the left side where the other human is looking at which is the one I think Stichin used to draw his theory.

The interesting part for me is that the human in the center is pulling the other human on the left in the direction of the 13th "planet" and the giant.



posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 05:10 PM
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posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 05:11 PM
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Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
Why is it that people like to claim things about people and cultures they really know nothing about?...
[edit on 22-4-2010 by ElectricUniverse]


Because some have a urge to feel right and the owners of the truth. It's easier to dismiss and twist stuff out to allow you that feeling of knowing something then having to bare with everything and accepting that we know practically nothing about everything and will die that way.

The real shame in all of this is that some, the so called "scholars" do exactly that and people buy it as the whole truth.



posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 05:19 PM
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Originally posted by thomas_

Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
Why is it that people like to claim things about people and cultures they really know nothing about?...
[edit on 22-4-2010 by ElectricUniverse]


Because some have a urge to feel right and the owners of the truth. It's easier to dismiss and twist stuff out to allow you that feeling of knowing something then having to bare with everything and accepting that we know practically nothing about everything and will die that way.

The real shame in all of this is that some, the so called "scholars" do exactly that and people buy it as the whole truth.


NO the real shame is 2012 is making big money for a lot of people. Any quack can come out of the wood works and declare a end of the world theory with no solid proof write a book and gullible people like you will buy it make them a few dollars while they laugh on the way to the bank.

But not to fear kids 2012 will be here before we know it and this thread along with countless others about nibiru will still be here. And I along with others will be here to tell you we TOLD YOU SO. Then we can all hear you spout off the next year 2020, 30, or 60.

That is if you will still be here on Dec 1 2013 and nothing happens and their is still no sign of Nibiru will you guys man up and come eat your crow thats so overly due?? Or will you change your screen name and pretend to be one of the logical ones?

We shall see my friends.

www.youtube.com...




[edit on 22-4-2010 by ker2010]



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