reply to post by serbsta
I am not a "Nibiru cultist" as you claim people are, but I find it rather ironic that you claim people are making false connections and you do the
exact thing you claim others are doing...
Where does it say Nibiru is Jupiter?... Where?... Just show us.... NOWHERE...
The thing is the planet/star has many names, from Wormwood, Marduk, yes even Marduk, and Nibiru.
Wormwood as the bible states.
Rev 8:10-11 "And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and
it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and many men died of the
waters, because they were made bitter."
As for there no being a planet of Annunaki, well you might think so, but Sitchin is not the only one who has used this name, in fact
The Anunnaki (also transcribed as: Anunna, Anunnaku, Ananaki and other variations) are a group of Sumerian, Akkadian and Babylonian deities. The name
is variously written "da-nuna", "da-nuna-ke4-ne", or "da-nun-na", meaning something to the effect of 'those of royal blood' or 'princely
offspring'. Their relation to the group of gods known as the Igigi is unclear - at times the names are used synonymously but in the Atra-hasis
flood myth they have to work for the Anunnaki, rebelling after 40 days and replaced by the creation of humans.
Jeremy Black and Anthony Green offer a slightly different perspective on the Igigi and the Anunnaki, writing that "lgigu or Igigi is a term
introduced in the Old Babylonian Period as a name for the (ten) 'great gods'. While it sometimes kept that sense in later periods, from Middle
Babylonian times on it is generally used to refer to the pods of heaven collectively, just as the term Anunnakku (Anuna) was later used to refer to
the gods of the underworld. In the Epic of Creation, it is said that there are 300 lgigu of heaven.".
The Anunnaki appear in the Babylonian creation myth, Enuma Elish. In the late version magnifying Marduk, after the creation of mankind, Marduk
divides the Anunnaki and assigns them to their proper stations, three hundred in heaven, three hundred on the earth. In gratitude, the Anunnaki,
the "Great Gods", built Esagila, the splendid: "They raised high the head of Esagila equaling Apsu. Having built a
stage-tower as high as Apsu, they set up in it an abode for Marduk, Enlil, Ea." Then they built their own shrines.
The Annunaki/warchers are very probably also the Elohim. Elohim/Elohiym is Hebrew and it is the name from which Christians made their God, but the
thing is Elohim is plural, defining more than one deity/God.
Elowahh means singular God. Elohiym means plural "Gods".
There are many tries to explain this by claiming that it is defining the pluraity of the one God, but if this is true then why does it say in the
translations of ancient Hebrew, and I quote
Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image after
There is also the fact that there are other ancient text that also describe these "Gods", the Watchers, or Annunaki, such as the ancient Vedic
In the Vedas the Gods gave mankind knowledge, as well as Vimanas, or flying machines.
The predecessors of the flying vimanas of the Sanskrit epics are the flying chariots employed by various gods in the Vedas: the Sun (see Sun chariot)
and Indra and several other Vedic deities are transported by flying wheeled chariots pulled by animals, usually horses (but the Vedic god Pūsan's
chariot is pulled by goats, as is that of Norse Thor).
The Rigveda does not mention Vimanas, but verses RV 1.164.47-48 have been taken as evidence for the idea of "mechanical birds":
47. kṛṣṇáṃ niyânaṃ hárayaḥ suparṇâ / apó vásānā dívam út patanti
tá âvavṛtran sádanād ṛtásyâd / íd ghṛténa pṛthivî vy ùdyate
48. dvâdaśa pradháyaś cakrám ékaṃ / trîṇi nábhyāni ká u tác ciketa
tásmin sākáṃ triśatâ ná śaṅkávo / 'rpitâḥ ṣaṣṭír ná calācalâsaḥ
"Dark the descent: the birds are golden-coloured; up to the heaven they fly robed in the waters.
Again descend they from the seat of Order, and all the earth is moistened with their fatness."
"Twelve are the fellies, and the wheel is single; three are the naves. What man hath understood it?
Therein are set together spokes three hundred and sixty, which in nowise can be loosened." (trans. Griffith)
In Swami Dayananda Saraswatis "translation", these verses become:
"jumping into space speedily with a craft using fire and water ... containing twelve stamghas (pillars), one wheel, three machines, 300
pivots, and 60 instruments."
Hinduism, the ancient religion of India, considers the "Vedas" composition of hymns, sacrificial formulas, and other sayings pertaining to the
Gods…as sacred scriptures, "not of Human Origin". The Gods themselves composed them.
When in the 19th century, scholars began to decipher and understand forgotten languages, they realized the Vedas were written in a very ancient Indo
European language, (the predecessor of the Indian "root-tongue" Sanskrit, of Greek, Latin, and the other European languages). They were surprised to
see the uncanny similarity between the Vedic tales of the Gods…..and the Greek tales.
The Gods, the "Vedas" told, were all members of one large, but not necessarily peaceful, family. Amid the tales of ascents to the heavens, and
descents to Earth, aerial battles, wondrous weapons, friendships, and rivalries, marriage and infidelities…..there appears to have existed a basic
concern for genealogical record keeping, (who fathered whom, and who was the first born of whom).
The vedic scriptures talk about the ancient knowledge given to mankind by the Gods, which are the same as Annunaki, and Elohim/Elohiym.
There is mention of ancient wars, and even of humans having used nuclear weapons to fight other humans who were fighting for other Gods.
And Anu, was the Sumerian Father of Gods. The Supreme God….from the alien "Anunnaki" race. What about the other avenues of Gods who reached
Greece…..from the Eastern shores of the Mediterranean, via Crete and Cypress?
Every ancient culture has similar stories, and they all seem to be based on at least some truth.
Any advanced beings with a very advanced civilization would be seen by ancient men as Gods, and Godesses, and we see some of them in the skies.
I know a lot of Christians like to claim that this are teachings from the devil, but they don't want to realize that they have been worshipping not
the one emcompassing being that is part of all, but rather another species of people who live for a long time and these people, at least some of them,
were the teachers of mankind, and possbily the ones who made mankind.
What they did not make was the spirit which exist in every one of us, and every living being.
Anyway, back to the topic at hand, sorry Serbsta but you are wrong. There are many ancient cultures which say the same thing, and about the abode of
the Gods which is not of this world.
Also many ancient cultures talk about a dead star/planet which brings from time to time devastation to Earth.
Sorry but it is too much of a coincidence that NASA/ESA state that until about 2012 the interstellar dust will continue to increase exponentially.
Space radiation is increasing. With a lull in the activity of the Sun, energies, charged particles, plasma, and interstellar dust is entering more
the Solar System and changing the climate of the planets, as well as increasing the seismic, and magmatic activity in Earth.
Too much of a coincidence sorry to say, and I know there are many people, perhaps even you, who feel safer thinking they are the beginning and end of
all. That there are no more intelligent beings than them. these are the same people for the most part who believe in the AGW lie/scam, because they
think they can control everything, even the Universe...
To people like you it seems that you need to destroy everything that you don't want to understand, or that shows you to be just one spec in the
immensity of the infinite Universe.
You need to have control, hence you have to make believe that you have all control, hence there is nothing beyond you, or beyond your grasp.
[edit on 21-4-2010 by ElectricUniverse]