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South Park Creators Threatened

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posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 04:43 AM
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True freedom of speech is NOT having the right to threaten somebody else with death because you don't like their views; it is the right to express your views without fear of being threatened with death!




posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 04:58 AM
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Originally posted by noonebutme
So, I get it that Muslims are forbidden by "law" to have Muhammad drawn or depicted. Fair enough. Silly, but that's their rule for themselves.

But as I'm not a Muslim, their laws and rules do not apply to me so...

Enjoy!



I can't see how this is bad or insulting.

[edit on 21-4-2010 by noonebutme]



It is not bad nor insulting. I am muslim by the way.

To clear this up once and for all:


The depiction of Muhammad was forbidden BY Muhammad himself - based on very reasonable grounds. He saw what happened with Jesus, where people started to WORSHIP him/his pictures/statues - and that is exactly what he did not want to happen to him and Islam.
Thus he forbade that.

He knew, out of love, people tend to EXAGGERATE. They did it with Jesus.



BTW, your drawing is wrong, because there are no TURBANS in Arabia, and Muhammad never wore one.


So, as I said, if you depict Muhammad or even make a joke in a cartoon or whatever, if it is not inappropriate (e.g. pornographic, etc.) - I will laugh, and it won't bother me at all.
Same with Jesus, Moses or any other Prophet.

I just think we should respect them ALL and not insult people by abusing them - e.g. showing them in disrespecting manner.



posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 05:03 AM
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Originally posted by skajkingdomThe depiction of Muhammad was forbidden BY Muhammad himself - based on very reasonable grounds. He saw what happened with Jesus, where people started to WORSHIP him/his pictures/statues - and that is exactly what he did not want to happen to him and Islam.
Thus he forbade that.


Slight difference, Jesus is a different sort of "icon" in Christian terms, ie, part of the trinity and as Lord (to Christians) can certainly be worshipped.

For Muhammad being such a "shy" lad, he is fairly revered, spoke about, worshipped etc by Muslims!



posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 05:08 AM
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Originally posted by blueorder

Originally posted by skajkingdomThe depiction of Muhammad was forbidden BY Muhammad himself - based on very reasonable grounds. He saw what happened with Jesus, where people started to WORSHIP him/his pictures/statues - and that is exactly what he did not want to happen to him and Islam.
Thus he forbade that.


Slight difference, Jesus is a different sort of "icon" in Christian terms, ie, part of the trinity and as Lord (to Christians) can certainly be worshipped.

For Muhammad being such a "shy" lad, he is fairly revered, spoke about, worshipped etc by Muslims!


revered and spoke about yes, worshiped? NO!

But that doesn't matter. What matters is this: I would not like to insult/abuse religious characters of ANY religion!
I will respect Buddha, because buddhists revere him - thus I would not like to see him abused in a cartoon or whatever when the sole purpose of using him is with intention to INSULT.

On the other hand, as I said, if they show them in cartoons, in a joke or whatever - excluding profanity - I have no problem at all with that.



posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 05:17 AM
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Originally posted by skajkingdom
revered and spoke about yes, worshiped? NO!



A fine line which is often crossed



But that doesn't matter. What matters is this: I would not like to insult/abuse religious characters of ANY religion!
I will respect Buddha, because buddhists revere him - thus I would not like to see him abused in a cartoon or whatever when the sole purpose of using him is with intention to INSULT.

On the other hand, as I said, if they show them in cartoons, in a joke or whatever - excluding profanity - I have no problem at all with that.



I personally do not see the need to insult someone's religion, but if someone does it should never result in thinly veiled death threats.


Western media has loads of images, comments, videos that people can find offensive on various levels- whether in terms of bad language, bullying, sexualisation etc and I personally feel we have gone too far in that direction and a better balance is required, however death threats over someone's insecurity about their religion should be dealt with harshly



posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 07:39 AM
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Apparently Comedy Central was scared enough to beep out beeps name. Not only did they block beep with a big censor sign, they also made to where beep wasn't even in the bear costume (it was santa clause, figure that one out.) and every time someone mentioned beeps name they beeped it out.

Since when did mentioning beeps name come off as disrespectful?

If you think reading all those beeps was annoying you now know what it was like watching last nights episode. Only it was a whole lot worse since they didn't bother changing the script, they only decided to beep out any mention of beep.



posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 07:53 AM
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Their was an episode of south park where cartman wanted mumhommud censored on family guy. He thought by taking "A" show and censoring it for the public that the entire show will eventually get canceled. Last night on south park comedy central censored the name mumhommad. Surprisingly the show wasn't as funny either. The show was a snore and honestly one of the least funniest show in the season due to the censorship. Only thing great was where cartman came from. Comedy central lost their integraty. I thought islam was a peaceful religion. guess I was wrong again


[edit on 22-4-2010 by Jordan River]



posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 07:55 AM
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I saw the first part online and they didnt censor the name Mohammad but then I saw the second part last night on TV and they did. Was the name censored from the first part on TV?

The whole thing is so stupid.

It makes me want to go out of my way to plaster his name/image everywhere I can and even enourages me to be as vulgar and disrespectful as I could possibly be.



posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 08:26 AM
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Part one the name wasn't censored.

Its bad enough they beep out all the freaking curse words. Thats a lot in itself, but to beep out a name every time its mentioned almost makes it unwatchable.



posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 08:50 AM
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It was ridiculous.... and the end speech was blanked out too?

I wish they would have stuck to their principles man...



posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 08:53 AM
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I think that part was pretty important. When they're supposed to reflect on what they've"learned" they can't. Very important.



posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 08:58 AM
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What law is that you are referring to?



posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 08:59 AM
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So I just attempted to watch the new episode on-line.

This is what happened at the South Park site:
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It would appear that Matt and Trey did not bend and were not afraid to air the episode and Comedy Central is the culprit for said censoring beeps. No one has any balls any more. We are so afraid of offending that we have lost our nuts. This is sickening.

[edit on 22-4-2010 by Acid_Burn2009]



posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 09:01 AM
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Here ya go... watch it here,

www.xepisodes.com...



posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 09:09 AM
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Originally posted by skajkingdom



BTW, your drawing is wrong, because there are no TURBANS in Arabia, and Muhammad never wore one.


Most of the depictions of Mohammed on this wikipedia page en.wikipedia.org... shows him wearing a turban. Perhaps they do not wear them now, but the bulk of older depictions tend to hint that it's fallen out of fashion.



posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 09:28 AM
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Originally posted by blupblup
reply to post by Acid_Burn2009
 




Here ya go... watch it here,

www.xepisodes.com...


Thanks...just watched it and it was pretty funny. The Super Best Friends on segways...


I need to see it uncensored now.



posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 09:33 AM
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Originally posted by blupblup
reply to post by Acid_Burn2009
 




Here ya go... watch it here,

www.xepisodes.com...


Well, that one was a stinker on it's own merits. They just need to retire the show.



posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 10:31 AM
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Most of the time, south park is quite funny. But sometimes it's really
offensive. It's angered many a pop star like Jonas brothers but that one was
funny. Most of the time it's just gross, And that's coming from a 12 year
old.



posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 10:51 AM
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Let me start out by saying that I am a Christian (protestant), Libertarian, and a pretty die hard South Park fan. That being said, I should have more of an excuse to dislike SP than any other group (save maybe the Jews haha), as the Christian church has taken its fair share of jabs from the show. The show is downright hilarious. I'm convinced, as I have not read the Qu'ran and I won't pretend to be any sort of an expert on the matter (which seems to be the modus operandi here), that Islam forbids any sort of sense of humor whatsoever. I have never seen a single portrayal of a Muslim laughing or wearing a smile. Everything is always SO serious. I guess they don't think the platypus is proof of Allah's sense of humor.

Anyhow, like I mentioned, any viewer of the show is well aware at the stabs at Christianity. Granted, many references are toward Catholicism (which I find hilarious as it is), they do make light of Jesus and even depicted God as some odd monkey/dog/dinosaur chimera. It's funny and for crying out loud...IT'S A CARTOON! Why can't people laugh at themselves? I know the hypocrisy in the church. I am part of it. I won't even try to act like I'm better than anyone else, because I know I'm not. I can tolerate and accept many things, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with them. In this instance, I wholeheartedly do not agree with Comedy Central's decision to edit and ultimately refuse to re-air this episode because some Islamic spare made an empty threat. They are a bunch of cowards.

Like some of the above posters indicated, sometime in the past few years Islam, Mohammed in particular, has become sort of a sacred cow. The entire world is terrified of how some 90 year old Ayatollah or Emir will react. Those extremists are an enormous minority and the MSM and TPTB are trying to villify an entire faith. It used to be that Scientology was the untouchable "religion" (South Park again FTW), what with the lawsuits and smear campaigns, now the focus has all but shifted due-east.

South Park was, is, and (hopefully) will continue to be a medium for modern-day Horatian satire. Matt and Trey are, by my account, geniuses. It really is a travesty that Comedy Central aired that abortion of a censored episode and refuses to stream it on southparkstudios.com. I am truly appalled.

Edited for spelling

[edit on 4/22/10 by SeditiousDissent]



posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 11:00 AM
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I believe we need to think outside of the box a little on this one... To me, this is obviously propaganda to ensure americans continue to fear and hate and support endless wars... The video with this "islamic radical guy" is so beyond fake that it's borderline ridiculous... I don't buy it for a second



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