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Originally posted by Southern Guardian
Originally posted by Subjective Truth
reply to post by skunknuts
It sad when you need a test to show you your place in the world. And all of pie charts does nothing to change the simple and utter truth Hitler was a progressive and this is from him not me. So take it up with him if you think he is a liberal.
This still has absolutely nothing to do with the point of the thread. Why do you keep running away from it? Are you afraid to actually address the OP directly? How is this not an infringement? Forcing americans to constantly show identification based on their appearance, how is this right? If this was based on gun rights would you be derailing this thread as you are now?
Originally posted by Subjective Truth
reply to post by Southern Guardian
I knew it. And dont tell me what to do
Where is your proof that I am a revolutionary?
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[edit on 21-4-2010 by Subjective Truth]
Originally posted by Southern Guardian
reply to post by Subjective Truth
Show me where in this thread did you address the bill?
Originally posted by Subjective Truth
I honestly think you might have screw loose no offense but you made a accusations saying I was a arm chair revultionary
Please provide proof and the threads
coward
Originally posted by Jenna
How exactly are they going to determine who to ask about their immigration status? By appearance? That'll never work. Not all illegal immigrants are from Mexico, nor do they all look like they are. There are plenty of people who are of hispanic descent who were born here or immigrated legally as well. Talk about a sure-fire way to tick some people off. I don't see any reasonable way they could go about enforcing this without forcing Americans to prove they are American.
Originally posted by skunknuts
Originally posted by Chicken_Bone
reply to post by skunknuts
I think we should all have to carry proof of citizenship and anytime we are stopped, get a job, or go for government services we should have to show them.
That way there is no racial profiling. It is just straight up the same for everyone.
Thank you for your response. It's fine. It just means you are more of an authoritarian than a constitution-loving libertarian. Keep that in mind so you don't sound hypocritical when discussing other issues.
Best,
Skunknuts
Originally posted by skunknuts
Can you imagine if a similar bill was passed in Wisconsin w/ regards to Canada? How would you react if the government could harass and demand proof of citizenship if they determine that you reasonably appear Canadian??
Best,
Skunknuts
Originally posted by Xtrozero
But they can't...you need to prove you live in the school district..i.e. gas bill etc but they cannot ask you if you are a citizen. Why do you think there is over a million children in the California school system that should not be there, bad workers?
They can and do all the time.... If they live in that district they can go to that school...doesn't matter if they are illegal or not.
And WOW this bill doesn't affect you at all and if you get a chance to vote on it one day then vote no...it’s that simple.
So maybe if you think a little you will realize that just maybe there are a lot of illegals in Ariz that abuse all the services there and cost that state a ton of money and high crime rate that maybe you in rural NY do not have?
They voted on it and so they need to live with it, and they need to pay for it.
Originally posted by Xtrozero
And so you also have a few million Illegal Canadians also causing havoc?
I live in Washington state so I guess we are the same too....not.
Yep those Canadians are just streaming across.... hehe
It comes down to what is considered reasonable as the bill says.
I agree it is a double edge sword that if it is used as you fear then their courts will be flooded with litigation for the next 50 years. I’m not sure if the governor has line vote ability but it is dangerous in the total freedom it provides authorities if used incorrectly.
Originally posted by Southern Guardian
If we were talking about gun owners and that they had to carry permits and present them merely because they dont look right, would you be so quick to defend the bill?
Originally posted by murfdog
Before you can hire an employee they need to show proof of citizenship or legitimate working papers.