Teapartiers: What an outrage!

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posted on May, 6 2010 @ 05:45 AM
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Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1

Originally posted by Jenna
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Didn't read all 22 pages did you? And I suppose it would be too much to ask for if I asked for your proof that all supporters of the tea parties are racist.


By their blatant failure to stand up for the people dealing with this Arizona law. If they aren't racist they should take up this as a cause but since it doesn't protect rich white people they don't care.

Proof :
www.youtube.com...

1,730 videos on YouTube focusing on Tea Group Racism. Those who won't watch one vid is as much in the closet as the entire group as a whole.


Obviously you didn't even look at the videos in the link you provided. More than half of them are videos debunking the notion of teaparty racism. In fact, the most watched one is specifically about that and would be good for you to watch. Incidentally, I watched 6 videos from the link you provided were trying to accuse the Teaparty of racism and couldn't find the quotes you allege all teapartiers say regarding 'Obama being Muslim' and what not. I think you just applied your own opinion of who the teapartiers must be in adding those quotes and comments. Then you did a search on youtube, didn't watch the videos, but tried to use it as proof (even though it provides more support for the position counter to yours).




posted on May, 6 2010 @ 08:28 PM
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Actually, the movement itself came up with it. LOL

Again, quit being so sensitive and PC and argue the point on constitutional relevance.



posted on May, 6 2010 @ 08:33 PM
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Oh lord. The Teabaggers are the ones who wave the Bible in everyone's face. I'm just here to throw it backatcha. Sorry if you can't hang, brothers and sisters. You bold protectors of whatever whim pisses you off.

As for the Supremacy Clause, I hate to break it to you grasshopper, but it means states can't supercede Federal jurisdiction. In the case of Arizona's legislation, border control belongs to the Fed. gov.



posted on May, 6 2010 @ 09:15 PM
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Incorrect, yet again. It was a term thrust upon the tea parties by members of the liberal media in an effort to dismiss them, not one chosen by supporters of the tea parties. You could at least bother to get your facts straight on that one.


It has nothing to do with being PC and everything to do with having enough maturity to realize that using a sexual euphemism to describe a group just because you disagree with them (without understanding the first thing about them, might I add) is childish. If you aren't adult enough to understand that, I'm afraid there's not much I can do for you.



posted on May, 6 2010 @ 09:23 PM
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And if you bothered to read the actual law, it clearly states that its about ensuring the enforcement of the existing Federal laws.

"NO OFFICIAL OR AGENCY OF THIS STATE OR A COUNTY, CITY, TOWN OR
OTHER POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF THIS STATE MAY ADOPT A POLICY THAT LIMITS OR RESTRICTS THE ENFORCEMENT OF FEDERAL IMMIGRATION LAWS TO LESS THAN THE FULL EXTENT PERMITTED BY FEDERAL LAW."

"FOR ANY LAWFUL CONTACT MADE BY A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL OR AGENCY OF THIS STATE OR A COUNTY, CITY, TOWN OR OTHER POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF THIS STATE WHERE REASONABLE SUSPICION EXISTS THAT THE PERSON IS AN ALIEN WHO IS UNLAWFULLY PRESENT IN THE UNITED STATES, A REASONABLE ATTEMPT SHALL BE MADE, WHEN PRACTICABLE, TO DETERMINE THE IMMIGRATION STATUS OF THE PERSON. THE PERSON'S IMMIGRATION STATUS SHALL BE VERIFIED WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PURSUANT TO 8 UNITED STATES CODE SECTION 1373(c)."

www.azleg.gov...

I could cut and paste the whole thing, but it is rather lengthy. Suffice to say, its about making is harder to people to employ illegal aliens and harder for local authorities to ignore the Federal laws.



posted on May, 6 2010 @ 09:53 PM
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Wow, yet after hundereds of hours of tapes exist confirming they are racists yet no one wants to accept, or even admit the fact that they are associated with racists. WOW.

The racial makeup of the group is pure white. No African Americans, Indians, Arabs, Hispanics, Orientals, Islanders in the group period. For any group to exist and not have people of culture and colour in their ranks tells me in volumes that the group is racist.

Failure to even admit the fact that there are racists in the group tells me that a COVERUP AND CORRUPTION IS IN THE WORKS.

The deaf, dumb and blind being led by racist elements really frieghtens me.

Not one element in the hierarchy of the overall Tea Group will take a stand and refuses to accept the fact they've been infiltrated by racists. The proof is in the pudding. The MSM is staying away because they've accepted the fact they've been complacent in the rise of "Ultra Right Wing Extremetistm".

Get real and go sell that to someone else. The Tea Group is not welcomed at ATS. We will not be your scapegoat or patsy. We are far too smart and intelligent to be brought down to that level of disgust and hatred.



posted on May, 6 2010 @ 09:57 PM
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The ignorance displayed in your post is astonishing... At the very top of this very page you are proven completely and unavoidably wrong in your claim that the tea parties are made up entirely of racist white people and your claim that every video on youtube proves your point, yet you repeat the claims.. Absolutely amazing.



posted on May, 7 2010 @ 07:37 AM
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Originally posted by Jenna
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The ignorance displayed in your post is astonishing... At the very top of this very page you are proven completely and unavoidably wrong in your claim that the tea parties are made up entirely of racist white people and your claim that every video on youtube proves your point, yet you repeat the claims.. Absolutely amazing.


jenna,
I'm sure you are a very intelligent person. Read the writing on the wall. No non white is a member. That proves racism.

Yet again you and the rest of the Tea Group flat out refuses to accept and acknowledge the fact that racists are in your ranks and flat out refuse to do anything about it.

My iq is between 142 - 160 which means I know what I'm talking about.

No single aspect of the Tea Group will come out against racism and the racist elements contained therein.

I was not proven wrong, failure to address the racist issue means most attending are racists and continually reiteration of the fact as well.



posted on May, 7 2010 @ 09:31 AM
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Okay, genius (your words)...
www.youtube.com...

How can a black TEA Party Patriot get attacked, if they don't exist?

I am sure your response will be "over my head"....



posted on May, 8 2010 @ 06:10 AM
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Originally posted by Stewie
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Okay, genius (your words)...
www.youtube.com...

How can a black TEA Party Patriot get attacked, if they don't exist?

I am sure your response will be "over my head"....



I for one second cannot believe that an African American wants anything to do with a group like this.

I saw your vid and can see it get violent but at the speed in which it happened was soo fast that the viewer cannot possibly see who hit who first.

Without definitive proof to connect The SEIU to this attack no conclusion can be drawn.

Most in the Tea Group will just keep on poking and keep on poking and force someone into a confrontation just to prove a point.

The tape also does not catch the first 3 seconds of the altercation ie, you can't tell who threw the first swing. Whoever did is wrong. I care not who it is. I am also questioning the allegiance of the cameraman.

There is a small segment of The Tea Group who have been planted to incite a riot and to incite a disturbance while keeping the cams off just to turn them back on right before they provoke an incident.

The Anti Tea Group is not violent and are not militant.

The leadership of The Tea Group has got the entire group whipped up in such a fever and frenzy that all it takes it, "attack" and the army will follow.



posted on May, 8 2010 @ 09:41 AM
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Hit the enter button and it posted before I was done.

See next post.

[edit on 8-5-2010 by vipertech0596]



posted on May, 8 2010 @ 09:41 AM
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"I for one second cannot believe that an African American wants anything to do with a group like this."


Well then, you appear to have a problem living in reality. There are plenty of members of the various Tea Party groups across the United States who are not white.

Just one example.....

www.youtube.com...

[edit on 8-5-2010 by vipertech0596]

[edit on 8-5-2010 by vipertech0596]



posted on May, 8 2010 @ 10:47 AM
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Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
Yet again you and the rest of the Tea Group flat out refuses to accept and acknowledge the fact that racists are in your ranks and flat out refuse to do anything about it.


Incorrect. No one has said that there are no racists in the tea parties or among the supporters of the tea parties. What we have said is that they are not all racists.


My iq is between 142 - 160 which means I know what I'm talking about.


Congratulations. Doesn't make you right nor mean you know what you're talking about.


I was not proven wrong, failure to address the racist issue means most attending are racists and continually reiteration of the fact as well.


Incorrect. You just refuse to see "the writing on the wall". It's right there in the post I pointed you towards. You only have to watch the video within that post to see that you were indeed proven wrong. Well that and set aside this foolish insistence that there's no way you could possibly be wrong.



posted on May, 8 2010 @ 11:43 AM
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Obviously many of you have not taken the time to investigate this new law for yourselves and are simply reacting to the media's dishonest spin on this issue.
First of all, the Arizona law is pretty much the same as the existing Federal immigration law.
Secondly, a law enforcement officer has always been permited to pull anyone over if breaking the law (speeding, wreckless operation, etc.) and according to Arizona's new law, there has to be a reason for pulling them over, searching them, or investigating their citizenship --- not just suspicion.
These somewhat uninformed responses demonstrate the reason our government is so screwed up --- uninformed voters. Don't just take a person's word for something, investigate it. The only thing worse than an unanswered question is an unquestioned answer.



posted on May, 8 2010 @ 11:47 AM
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Originally posted by pwhit
and according to Arizona's new law, there has to be a reason for pulling them over, searching them, or investigating their citizenship --- not just suspicion.


What is that reason as stated by this new law?



posted on May, 8 2010 @ 09:14 PM
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The officer has to have a probable cause for stopping them. In other words, they are suspected of breaking a law. ONLY THEN can the officer ask them to see their proof of citizenship.

Suspicion of being illegal is not probable cause......something that gets lost in the insanity coming from the Left.



posted on May, 8 2010 @ 11:17 PM
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Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
Get real and go sell that to someone else. The Tea Group is not welcomed at ATS. We will not be your scapegoat or patsy. We are far too smart and intelligent to be brought down to that level of disgust and hatred.


If the tea group is made up of middle to upper middle class that lean toward conservative ideals I would need to suggest they are what they are without some overt or covert racism agenda.



posted on May, 9 2010 @ 04:12 AM
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Originally posted by Xtrozero

Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
Get real and go sell that to someone else. The Tea Group is not welcomed at ATS. We will not be your scapegoat or patsy. We are far too smart and intelligent to be brought down to that level of disgust and hatred.


If the tea group is made up of middle to upper middle class that lean toward conservative ideals I would need to suggest they are what they are without some overt or covert racism agenda.


The demographic of your average Tea Group is as follows :

Age - 40 - 65
Ethnicity - caucasian male
Average median income - $50,000 a year and up
Average residency - Suburbia
Political leaning - Ultra Right Wing Conservative

Those not allowed to participate in Tea Rallies :

Arabs, African Americans, Hispanics, Orientals, Islanders, left wing liberals, Democrats, Independents.

Try and disprove or to deny this. When your entire group is consisting of people from one ethnic background and one political leaning racism does most definately exist.

Do not use ATS as a platform to defend the actions of the Tea Group as they were once admirable but the fact they've alligned themselves with The Neo Conservatives instantly ruins their credibility.

BTW, If they are soo, "Pro-freedom" as the banners and signs say, how come not one member has come out against the Arizona bill? That's right, because it targets Mexicans and Hispanics they want no part of it. If they aren't racists they should've taken a stance over the Arizona law but the fact they remain quiet to it speaks louder then words.

If you establish a platform of protecting and maintaining rights for all but someone convienently forget the Arizona situation makes the group racist as a whole.



posted on May, 9 2010 @ 08:57 AM
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DISCLAIMER: I do not refer to myself as an Irish/English/Dutch/Native American since I was born in the United States, so I normally do not refer to someone's ancestral birthplace in regards to the color of their skin. Its not a racist thing, its a reality thing if you were born (and your parents, their parents etc) in North America, it does not make you African, European, Asian, Australian et cetera.




Those not allowed to participate in Tea Rallies

Arabs, African Americans, Hispanics, Orientals, Islanders, left wing liberals, Democrats, Independents.


What a whopper of an outright LIE. In Dallas, the people who organize the Tea Parties are mostly MINORITY.

Holy smokes...a black man speaking at a Tea Party Rally...in the RED, RED state of Texas....now how can THAT be......
www.youtube.com...#!

Hmm....she doesnt appear to be white either......
www.youtube.com...

Wow...another black man...
www.youtube.com...

Umm....yeah, he doesn't appear to be white either...
www.youtube.com...

Thats four of the speakers at Dallas area Tea Parties that aren't white males. So much for your rantings.



posted on May, 9 2010 @ 09:07 AM
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BTW, If they are soo, "Pro-freedom" as the banners and signs say, how come not one member has come out against the Arizona bill? That's right, because it targets Mexicans and Hispanics they want no part of it. If they aren't racists they should've taken a stance over the Arizona law but the fact they remain quiet to it speaks louder then words.


More ignorance. The Arizona law is designed to ensure enforcement of already existing Federal laws. The reason why the "Tea Party" hasn't come out against it, has nothing to do with race, it has to do with the LAW and wanting the LAW to be enforced. "Pro-freedom" doesnt mean standing by and letting illegal aliens violate the law.





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