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Blind guy who can see!!!

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posted on Apr, 20 2010 @ 03:55 PM
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This guy show how strong the mind really is and that we have abilities beyond are 5 senses!
A guy who has never seen a color in his life can paint like picasso...
shows you how amazing and diverse are talents really can be if we just believe in what we can do.
His name is Esref Armagan, meet the blind guy who can see things just as good as me and you...truly amazing and mind blowing!

www.youtube.com...




posted on Apr, 20 2010 @ 04:04 PM
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Paint like Picasso? Like He can't see and thus can't paint well? Ok...



posted on Apr, 20 2010 @ 04:11 PM
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no like hes blind and can paint good probably not as good but u get what i mean...its amazing he even gets the colors right...why so serious?? did you even watch the video?

[edit on 20-4-2010 by BroketheWall]



posted on Apr, 20 2010 @ 04:15 PM
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His style mimics that of many modern-day artists. And he does it better than many people who can see. I cannot draw perspective.



posted on Apr, 20 2010 @ 04:22 PM
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yeah i only compared him to picasso because hes just the first one i could think of off the top of my head...whats even more amazing than knowing the color is how he paints the textures also...this is truly god-given talent.



posted on Apr, 20 2010 @ 04:24 PM
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If he could use echolocation to paint I would be impressed.



posted on Apr, 20 2010 @ 04:29 PM
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I cannot have enough respect for people like this!

Simplicity. All he wants is to be remembered for his art.
If I had the chance, I can bet you my bottom dollar that I'd buy a painting from him!!

Everyone who is half-hearted about him painting good need to really think about the odds properly.

HE IS BLIND! And he paints better than most! He gets colors right!? He knows of perpective. Yes, there are definitely more than 5 senses!



posted on Apr, 20 2010 @ 04:30 PM
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Originally posted by earthdude
If he could use echolocation to paint I would be impressed.


You would have to have a seriously keen ear to do that! Now, if someone could do that, that would be amazing too!

But you aren't impressed already?



posted on Apr, 20 2010 @ 04:31 PM
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that is pretty crazy, especially since he has never had eyes to see what he is painting. His memory must be really great too.

The video shows how important visualizing is. Many great professional athletes and olympians report visualizing to help them out, and i do this too.

When i used to play soccer i would visualize where the ball would go right before taking a free kick. I would see myself taking a few steps and kicking the ball towards the direction i wanted the ball to go BEFORE i started visualizing. So i thought, ball goes upper left. I would then visualize myself kicking the ball upper left and then i would kick the ball. I scored almost 50% of my teams goals while playing in a high level travel soccer team in Northern Virginia.

This painter is visualizing what objects look like in his head and drawing them out. I used to paint and draw and one teacher had us practice drawing with our eyes closed. It is very hard but with practice you can easily draw objects just as good as with your eyes opened, especially if you use your other hand to guide the pencil and make markers to know where a previous line ended.

But the cool thing with this guy, he never saw what a bird or butterfly looks like, he doesn't know how light affects objects. I can understand him knowing what a bird or butterfly or grass may look like because he could feel these objects and tell what they may look like by visualizing, but to be able to visualize light is pretty incredible. The perspective thing is not that big of a deal to me because if you visualize a wall and you walk around it you can understand how you could see it look different.

If a wall is 5 feet high, 10 feet wide and 1 foot thick, if you visualize yourself standing in front of it you would visualize one rectangle. If you started moving around it to the left you can visualize the far side of the wall getting smaller because you are further away.

Anyways it's very cool and backs up the importance of visualizing!



posted on Apr, 20 2010 @ 04:35 PM
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what?? he does something you probably cant do and you can see it, why arent you impressed...
btw
i have not heard of any human who can echo locate?? hes not a damn bat!



posted on Apr, 20 2010 @ 04:38 PM
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Amazing indeed, the only possible explanation to seems that his so called "third eye" is opened or some OBE?

The human mind is fascinating, and will forever be because we can't explain this with science.



posted on Apr, 20 2010 @ 04:47 PM
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Originally posted by Grey Magic
Amazing indeed, the only possible explanation to seems that his so called "third eye" is opened or some OBE?

The human mind is fascinating, and will forever be because we can't explain this with science.


no, he is just visualizing. He has spent countless hours feeling objects and drawing them. Try it yourself if you don't believe it. Have someone hand you a very simple object while your eyes are closed, feel the object for a long time and try to draw it out. some kind of box would work well.

I just picked up a pack of cigarettes and "studied" them with my hands for about 30 seconds. I know more about smokes now than i did before. You can feel the edges and corners, using two hands you can tell how big it is, you can feel the celephane wrapping and you can tell where it folds open. Visualizing is powerful stuff



posted on Apr, 20 2010 @ 04:54 PM
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being a three year letter men halfback in football i understand exactly what your saying about setting up the defenders for your next move...almost like a mili second prediction of sorts.
the perspective is a big deal though because he has never seen what he is touching to visulize the size ,color or mass of the object...did you see the building at the end theres no way he could know the proportions without some other sort of sense that makes up for his blindness.
This guy deserves to be as famous as any hollywood actor in my eyes!
if your not impressed...seal your eyes shut and try to walk a straight line down the road...bet you end up tripping over a curb in a few seconds.
I would definetly buy one of his paintings if i had the chance.

the third eye could explain this because it is how we perceive things..through the third eye. i wonder if he has dreams like a person who can see? im looking it up right now ill will post what i can find.



posted on Apr, 20 2010 @ 05:12 PM
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Originally posted by BroketheWall
being a three year letter men halfback in football i understand exactly what your saying about setting up the defenders for your next move...almost like a mili second prediction of sorts.
the perspective is a big deal though because he has never seen what he is touching to visulize the size ,color or mass of the object...did you see the building at the end theres no way he could know the proportions without some other sort of sense that makes up for his blindness.
This guy deserves to be as famous as any hollywood actor in my eyes!
if your not impressed...seal your eyes shut and try to walk a straight line down the road...bet you end up tripping over a curb in a few seconds.
I would definetly buy one of his paintings if i had the chance.

the third eye could explain this because it is how we perceive things..through the third eye. i wonder if he has dreams like a person who can see? im looking it up right now ill will post what i can find.


The guy that was helping him gave him a small model of the building in which he felt up for however long, so he could have easily known the dimensions of the building. The model in which he held was very simple compared to the actual building. The building has square columns on the corners where as the model did not have that feature.

His drawing looks similar to the model, not the actual building.

I am not saying what the guy is doing is not amazing, it really is and i too would definitly buy a painting of his if i had the money or chance. For me the perspective thing is easy when you understand that his is visualizing.

Most blind people can walk through their house and know exactly where everything is because they have it memorized visually.

The thing that blows me away about his paintings is the light, that is crazy. The perspective stuff is MEHHH because it's obvious how he is doing it.



posted on Apr, 20 2010 @ 05:14 PM
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Something I saw recently that's a little related, was a documentary on BBC, in it a blind woman had a computer program/iphone app, that translated it's webcam input into sounds, and she could distinguish all kinds of things, like fences, people, buildings. It seems a great possibility until we can restore sight for people some way.



posted on Apr, 20 2010 @ 05:19 PM
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www.youtube.com...
blind people's dreams

www.youtube.com...
the only known blind echolocater

Ben underwood is just as amazing as esref



posted on Apr, 20 2010 @ 05:26 PM
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yeah i agree that he see's the colors is more amazing but putting what he is visaulizing onto paper onto paper is just as amazing...remember you visualize then look at what your drawing he visualizes and cant see what hes drawing...
HARPSOUNDS...these people like esref and ben will help future blind and deaf people out tremendously because they are helping us understand how the brain works.



posted on Apr, 20 2010 @ 05:37 PM
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It really depends on what his blindness is caused by. There are many parts of the brain that deal with vision and if specific ones go down they might not consciously be able to see, but the input is still being processed, so in truth they are able to see, but the information just isn't reaching the conscious part of the brain. There have been studies that have shown that people with certain kinds of blindness can navigate through cluttered rooms, consistently places envelopes in slots that are oriented in different directions, and catch objects thrown at them just as if they could see. The problem is most people think there is only one part of the brain that processes vision and that if it's damaged you are completely blind, but this simply isn't true. I wouldn't be surprised if he were born with some abnormality in his occipital lobe that effectively makes him blind, but in truth he is still processing the information he is seeing, he just doesn't realize it.



posted on Apr, 20 2010 @ 05:55 PM
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well he he was born without eyes and he paints so yeah somehow he is gettin the information...
esref not ben

[edit on 20-4-2010 by BroketheWall]



posted on Apr, 20 2010 @ 06:19 PM
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I'm not seeing anywhere where it says he was born without eyes. He was born blind, which means he still has eyes. And since that is the case it is possible he still has the rods and cones needed to convert photons into the electrical energy that lets the brain know what is actually being seen. It depends on whether his blindness has a neurological or ocular cause. However, the more I read about him the more it seems like he is using an improved sense of touch. When an area of the somatosensory cortex stops receiving information from one area, other areas begin to take over that area. So, since his eyes aren't working, his hands and fingers have probably taken over that area of the cortex, thus making his sense of touch more sensitive and in some way processed like vision. Just read about he paints portraits.




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