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Infowars Journalist Arrested, Held for Asking Karl Rove a Question During UT Appearance

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posted on Apr, 20 2010 @ 08:47 AM
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Originally posted by Curio
and then acting almost as if he was going to cry because it was SO hard for him to know about this terrible stuff. Yuk.



are you talking about Alex Jones, or Glenn Beck?




posted on Apr, 20 2010 @ 09:06 AM
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"That is defamation of character, and that deserves someone to be escorted off the property. "

No it is not defamation or slander. They pointed out what he did. and he got mad. They do this crap all the time.

and no the reporters do not go and shout down people that often (that is exceptionally rare) Plus this was a Q&A they asked a question. Please read my thread before commenting.

"It is also designed to make you think more about a police state which Alex is dedicating his life to making you believe. " ypur saying we are not in a poliece state? Cameras on EVERY street corner. cops being allowed to take your BOLD at check points. No we are in a police state.

"Honestly... seriously... what was the last good thing that ever came from Infowars? NOTHING. "

Hmmm. the MIACC report, Them breaking the BATFE and APD shutting down gun shows, They helped that one family expose the under ware bomber, Invisible empire, 20 min with the president which woke A LOT of people up to 9/11. ya nothing good. Now go back r that rock you life under.



posted on Apr, 20 2010 @ 09:13 AM
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"Also, when the police were escorting him out, he tried to turn around and go back. That is called resisting... "

If he did not commit a crime then no. It was a Q&A he asked a question and called him a liar.



posted on Apr, 20 2010 @ 09:18 AM
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What was he charged with? disturbing the peace?

EDIT: Ok, so I read the article and it says he was arrested for resisting arrest. Ok, fine...but what was the original arrest for? You know, the one he allegedly resisted? I have strong dislike for Alex Jones and his cronies; however, these charges do seem a bit, um, trumped up.



[edit on 20-4-2010 by Aggie Man]



posted on Apr, 20 2010 @ 09:19 AM
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Originally posted by Vinveezy
No it is not defamation or slander. They pointed out what he did. and he got mad. They do this crap all the time.


So he's been tried and convicted then? No? Well, then it's defamation of character and slander.


and no the reporters do not go and shout down people that often (that is exceptionally rare) Plus this was a Q&A they asked a question.


I watched the video and I heard yelling and watched him try to turn around and go back while being escorted out before finally giving up and cooperating. Doesn't look like asking a question to me, but it does look like causing a disturbance at a private event.


ypur saying we are not in a poliece state? Cameras on EVERY street corner. cops being allowed to take your BOLD at check points. No we are in a police state.


I don't see any cameras on any of the street corners where I live and I've never been stopped at a check point or heard of check points being set up across the country aside from the annual "let's catch the drunk drivers" events. Perhaps you're confusing the US with some other country?


ya nothing good.


Except a good laugh at all the doom and gloom, the world is ending nonsense. Jones sees what he wants to see where he wants to see it, is charismatic enough to get people to believe him, and then gets mad if you contradict him in any way. He never can admit he's wrong about anything and when he's proven to be absolutely completely wrong about something because his claims never come true it's just never mentioned again whilst he jumps to the next end of times, the military is coming to eat your babies scenario. When are we all getting sent to the nonexistent FEMA camps again? I need to make sure I have someone to watch my dog while I'm gone.



posted on Apr, 20 2010 @ 09:41 AM
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NOOO Rove is a good guy. Or at leas that is what these moron's her eon ATS think. They are siding with a WAR CRIMINAL then a fellow American. how warped their minds have become.

I agree. Rove is scum. Him being called a Liar is nothing. I can think of alot more which i would like to call him. haha



posted on Apr, 20 2010 @ 09:43 AM
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History can report it self a million times and people still wont get it.



posted on Apr, 20 2010 @ 09:44 AM
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Everyone has some valid points here about the arrest and the matter of decorum.
But perhaps I'm misunderstanding those folks claiming the event was on private property - last time I checked the University of Texas was a public institution and resides on public property. Perhaps it was an invitation only ("private") event, This may not be relevant at all to the discussion and I may have missed something from the story, but thought it worth mentioning.

gj



posted on Apr, 20 2010 @ 10:02 AM
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Listen people, we can condemn the "reporter" for his actions while not supporting Rove.

From the video, it looks as if this guy stood up and started shouting....right after another person was escorted out, and that guy calmly walked out.

Rove was (more then likely) paid to speak here. Whoever cut that check wanted this event to go off smoothly, so they probably gave orders to the security team to take out anyone who tries to disturb the event. This doesn't seem very odd to me...

When will some people understand that if you shout at people, if you act like you are the only one that deserves respect, you will not get it. (not saying Rove deserves respect...)

If Alex Jones, and Infowars want to confront Rove, here's how it should happen:

At the next event, have a "reporter" ask NOT SHOUT your questions.

Rove will either deny deny deny, or no comment. Fine, that is expected right? Say thank you very much Mr. Rove, sit down, and be respectful. Make a few friends afterwards, and head on out.

The next event, repeat the SAME process. Ask the question, be polite, maybe bring a friend to ask the same, or maybe different questions. Again, at the end, shake hands with those who you can DONT PREACH and go about your business

Do this for a while. Let all of these questions start to sink in with people. Get more people asking. A REAL reporter will ask at one point, trust me.

And for the final part of this plan:

Mr. Jones gets up and goes to one of these things. Only thing is, he leaves "crazy conspiracy guy" at home. No yelling. No bullhorn. No name calling.

He gets called on, and asks his question. Assuming Jones has the evidence available, I'd even suggest publicly asking him for an interview. Right afterwards if that would even work. Let him know that Rove will get to say his side. Simply answer a set of questions. Allowance for a few followups, and let Rove go on his way.

Like gentlemen.

After all, it is my understanding that Alex asks the hard questions. Let him ask. Take the answer for the answers that they are. Then find the holes. Once you get him on record, you can prove lies.

no one gets anywhere being immature. You have to play the system to win. After all, you don't win a game of monopoly playing it with jenga rules.



posted on Apr, 20 2010 @ 10:05 AM
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Originally posted by Vinveezy
NOOO Rove is a good guy. Or at leas that is what these moron's her eon ATS think. They are siding with a WAR CRIMINAL then a fellow American. how warped their minds have become.

I agree. Rove is scum. Him being called a Liar is nothing. I can think of alot more which i would like to call him. haha


Who here has said that Rove is a good guy? Who here has defended him in any way? No one, that's who. We're just capable of seeing the difference between defending Rove and pointing out that him being a liar doesn't excuse someone else disrupting an event and then trying to go back while being escorted out.

This guy can call Rove whatever he wants, but when he disrupts an event to do so he crosses the line of professionalism since he's supposed to be a journalist. It makes absolute sense to escort people out of the room if they are causing a disturbance, which this guy did.



posted on Apr, 20 2010 @ 10:24 AM
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this reeks of sensationalized garbage

second line



posted on Apr, 20 2010 @ 10:30 AM
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Originally posted by SPACEYstranger
this reeks of sensationalized garbage


Most articles from Infowars do, but we're the crazy ones for realizing there's always more to the story than what Jones and Co. want you to know about.

Edit: Oops, wrong word.

[edit on 20-4-2010 by Jenna]



posted on Apr, 20 2010 @ 10:33 AM
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Yep buy more of his police state videos. I have lived with the real world of police organized vendettas, and its far worse than jones says. But jones is just rubbish.



posted on Apr, 20 2010 @ 10:35 AM
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Originally posted by Vinveezy
NOOO Rove is a good guy. Or at leas that is what these moron's her eon ATS think. They are siding with a WAR CRIMINAL then a fellow American. how warped their minds have become.


I would like to know as well, who is saying Rove is a good guy? Who is siding with a war criminal?

Not me. I even called him a liar and said I don't trust him.

The problem here is that I didn't side with anyone. Not Rove, not the "journalist", and not Alex. However some of you only see things in black and white.

Actually, I take that back, I did side with someone.... REASON, and what is right and wrong.


[edit on 20-4-2010 by ALLis0NE]



posted on Apr, 20 2010 @ 05:54 PM
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It is important for people like Karl Rove to travel around and speak at conferences because that is how the CIA pays them for their crimes. The can't just hand them the money, it needs to be laundered. That's why Clinton makes so much money at speaking events in
Columbia and places. Would you rather they passed them a duffel bag of money and didn't report it on their income tax? It is clearly a matter of right and wrong here.



posted on Apr, 20 2010 @ 06:04 PM
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I agree with what the "All is one" poster is saying. Karl Rove is a bad guy, I think we can all agree on that, but for someone to interrupt him by ranting and raving is just plain idiotic. I also think We Are Change is working from the same page. The latest video of we are change that the infowars posted was people walking up and down the aisles chanting "911 was an inside job" while everyone booed them. Why don't they ever get up and ask "why does the FBI not show surveillance of the pentagon attacks?" or "Why are 6 of the 19 hijackers still alive" or why don't they mention how Benjamin Netanyahu publicly stated that Israel benefits from 911. Or why don't they mention that the hole in shanksville was too small for a airliner. Instead of shouting and drawing attention to themselves, they ought to be passing out FACTS. Otherwise they just look like idiots, idiots in front of Karl Rove. Why don't they mention the scientific paper on nano thermite? There is so much to say, and yet all they do is go around chanting "911 is an inside job". This is why people think 911 truth is stupid.

I was a big fan of Alex Jones, but never once called into his show. Why? Because I had the sneaking suspicion that he would rant and yell at me. A guy called up Alex Jones saying he was ready to pledge his life and Alex Jones called him a Fed. I guess that is one less Alex Jones fan. Maybe he was a fed, the point is, I think Jones thinks EVERYONE who doesn't agree with him is a fed.

But what really irritates me is how not once will Jones ever mention Daryl Bradford Smith. Not once. He refers to "neo-nazis" as feds, even though DBS is not a neo-nazi. While I do not agree with everything the "french connection" has to say, DBS talks trash about Jones every single day, yet not once has Jones ever stood up to him. Infowars does not touch the Zionist issue. This is a fact. They tip toe around it. And I'm fine with that, really. Just like how Ron Paul is not a 9/11 truther, that's okay. A plumber does not have to be an electrician, and vice versa. I personally listen to both infowars and the french connection, but I do have to say that listening to infowars, I think it is designed to make people mad, and then how do we channel that anger? Through poster contests, and distributing information. Sorry, but I'm not going to give anyone a copy of Police State 4, because while I do know that they use Nazi techniques on the g20 protesters, I also do know that this is not how all police work. Something happens somewhere in the US, and infowars makes it seem like this is standard operating procedure everywhere. I live in Columbus, Ohio, and the cops here are very professional. It would be an insult to even suggest that the cops here are Nazis. Bottom line is, Israel does play a role in 911, but you won't hear that from infowars. You'll hear stories about how Israel is forcing the US to engage Iran, but nothing about Gaza strip atrocities, or the fact that the holocaust is used as a justification for atrocities committed by Israel. Again, I do not agree with everything that the anti-zionists have to say. I am personally against all religions, and the french connection leans more towards Christian faith, which I have to say causes problems of its own. I'm fine with the good will and humanity of Christianity, but in practice it is not exactly the same as in theory. The Christian religion is based on a story involving a guy walking on water, I don't think I need to say much more than that. Bottom line is, I'm sick of these so called "leaders" be they Obama, Jones, or even DBS, whom I think has more truth than the infowars. I do like Jason Bermas, but I fear he is being too much controlled by Jones. Bermas should have charged for Invisible Empire, then he wouldn't be a broke bum. THe same with Luke Rudkowski, if he would have charged money for his work, he wouldn't have to take contributions for We are Change and use them for college loans (a rumor I heard, I'll admi



posted on Apr, 20 2010 @ 06:04 PM
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Originally posted by ALLis0NEThe journalist was arrested because he interrupted and insulted Karl Rove with a loud (considered antagonizing) voice calling him a liar. That is disturbing the peace.


Your version of America is scary...I can only hope your a foreigner whom has no concept of what our constitution says and protects.

We have this thing called Freedom of Speech...that man had every right to call Rove a fat p.o.s. lying scumbag...and Rove had every right to have the man escorted off the property the second he started...

What went wrong was the cops shutting the door to question the chap, then arresting him on baseless fraud charges of basically expressing his right to free speech.

But nevermind, your cuba may be different than here in the states. One day you may live in a society where you dont have to fear jail for voicing your opposition.



posted on Apr, 20 2010 @ 06:05 PM
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Originally posted by Jenna

So he's been tried and convicted then? No? Well, then it's defamation of character and slander.

What Karl Rove did was more than just criminal behavior. He helped destroy your country. Defamation of character and slander don't apply because he asked him a question. He didn't get time to call him names.

The question here is not whether the journalist was disrupting the peace, the question is whether the police will snatch anyone who disagrees with the govt and lock them up. We need to disagree with our government. We need to be able to disagree with our government without fear. But we obviously can't do that. We are pretty much up against a wall because the government is hopelessly corrupt which includes the courts. When they have enough power they won't worry about any legalities. While we have some legalities left we need to stand up for what is right. People shouldn't complain about doom and gloom when they've got their heads in the sand. The doom and gloom is only a tiny picture of the reality that is going to hit you soon if people don't wake up.

[edit on 20-4-2010 by m khan]



posted on Apr, 20 2010 @ 06:11 PM
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it I did not fact check this, nor do I really care if it is true or not). The point being, these infowarriors are not capitalists. Capitalism is about providing a service for money. Yes, they are getting this information out to millions of people, and they maybe would only get it out to thousands if they charged money. But, they would be making millions if they charged it to thousands. That way, the information will be more important. Think of it this way: Jason Bermas comes out with 'Invisible Empire' millions of people see it, and then they forget about it. Why? Because it's free. Anything that's free is just as quickly thrown away. But, if someone had to pay for it, they would have more respect for it because it cost them something. What do you value more, something you get for nothing, or something you have to earn? I mean, the first is socialism for crying out loud. They are criticizing Obama for giving socialized medicine (sort of socialized, a cover, not really of course), and then they give out free information. Sorry, but someone's hard pressed research is not someone else's right. You do not have a right to my own research. I should even charge you for this ha ha I'm sure some moderator will be pissed I said that. But anyways, think about it, how much more effective would Loose Change be if you had to pay money to see it? Even if it does not reach as many people, Jason Bermas and Dylan Avery would at least be rich, and then they could use that money to fight the infowar. Or at the very least, they can say screw you to the critics, because at least they made money. It's amazing that people are scared to make money. You ought to read 'Atlas Shrugged.' Sure, money is evil, which is why my true desire in life is to be a hermit living in the woods. Yes, renounce all your possessions because they are evil. Since this is something only a few extremely self sufficient people can do, you might as well charge money for your services. They are, after all, your services, not someone else's right.

Sorry for the rant, but you know what, since i"m not charging you for it, I could care less what you think. That's capitalism, you pay for what you get. Since the opinions dished out on the internet are free, you are stuck with a whole bunch of worthless opinions.



posted on Apr, 20 2010 @ 06:15 PM
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Originally posted by this_is_who_we_are
I found a link to video of the event:

www.youtube.com...

[edit on 4/20/2010 by this_is_who_we_are]


if this doesn't completely discredit alex jones and co, I have no idea what will.

edit: should probably add, yelling really loudly and incoherently over some guy giving a speech who used to work for the government in a very high position? That's not journalism, that's making an ass of yourself. How the hell are people supposed to take his message seriously when he's acting like a child who isn't getting his way?


I absolutely effing HATE Karl Rove but this guy is representing us, people who believe this guy is a criminal/conspiracy theorists to them, everyone else in the world, and he's acting like a typical nut on a TV show or something.


edit #2: Alex Jones is Glenn Beck for conspiracy theorists
[edit on 20-4-2010 by piddles]

[edit on 20-4-2010 by piddles]



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