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Possible shuttle landing at Edwards

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posted on Apr, 20 2010 @ 12:09 AM
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Edwards notice

I'm assuming the times listed are the Edwards window. However sometimes they use east coast time. [Drives me crazy.]

Since the base is closed, they will not be opening Rogers Dry Lake. That leaves two possible viewing locations off base. One is California City near highway 58. Depending on the direction it lands, sometimes the shuttle makes a U-turn over that location.

The other viewing location is more of a sure thing, though still far away. Basically, you go to the back of Edwards. Here is a map to get there:

back of Edwards

You can check out the rest of the information on this location at:
Edwards "trash"
It's not really trash out there, but rather they tossed a lot of old aircraft including X-planes along the back fence for use as photo targets. I also have a panorama view from the back.

The end of the trail is dirt, but you don't need a SUV. However, I can't vouch for the condition of the road after all the rain this winter.

If you park near the north gate to Edwards, the police will clear the area. And even though the gates are well in the Edwards border, the police will cite those parking on base, or at least ask you to move. I've heard traffic about this on the scanner.

If you have a trunking scanner, you can get tips on which direction the shuttle will land. Also a run down as to the location of the shuttle. Here is the run down how to program a scanner to listen to the base:
scanning Edwards




posted on Apr, 20 2010 @ 12:15 AM
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Just remember to add 4 hours if you are on the West Coast


If they don't land at Edwards, will they take the same path they were planning on for Monday? And what are the time windows please.



posted on Apr, 20 2010 @ 02:41 AM
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Three hours to the west coast from east coast.

Looking at space.com, it seems like they are going to bring it down at either Edwards or Florida on Tuesday. They have one more day to spare, but don't want to cut it close.




The foul weather at NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida thwarted two separate attempts to land Discovery on a runway at its home port. The next chance to land the shuttle will come on Tuesday at 7:33 a.m. EDT (1133 GMT).


Note that Edwards did post landing times on Wednesday, which conflicts with the space.com post.




Tuesday, April 20 6:11 a.m. 7:46 a.m. 9:21 a.m. Wednesday, April 21 6:35 a.m. 8:11 a.m.


The NASA website has



The first Kennedy opportunity Tuesday would see a deorbit burn at 5:28 a.m. with a landing at 6:34 a.m. For the second opportunity the deorbit burn at 7:02 a.m. would lead to a landing 8:08 a.m. For Edwards, the first opportunity deorbit burn would be at 6:56 a.m. with landing at 8:01 a.m. The next would have a deorbit burn at 8:30 a.m. and a landing at 9:35 a.m. while the third would begin with a deorbit burn at 10:05 a.m. leading to a landing at 11:11 a.m.


So NASA and Space.com don't agree on the first landing. Why these news sources can't post Zulu time is beyond me. Then again, Nellis often screws up the Red Flag notams when posting Zulu, so maybe I expect too much.

There are notams for the shuttle, but the time makes zero sense to me and I know roughly how to read a notam. I'll post them anyway:



FDC 0/6190 (A0994/10) - ...SPACE SHUTTLE LANDING OPERATIONS ADVISORY... EFFECTIVE 1004201534 UTC UNTIL 1004201609 UTC SPACE SHUTTLE LANDING OPERATIONS 25 NM EITHER SIDE OF THE LINE BETWEEN 3515N/11727E 5148N/16925E 4131N/13813W 3512N/11844W 3458N/11745W FROM SURFACE TO UNLIMITED. WIE UNTIL UFN. CREATED: 19 APR 13:58 2010 FDC 0/6185 (A0993/10) - ...SPACE SHUTTLE LANDING OPERATIONS ADVISORY... EFFECTIVE 1004201359 UTC UNTIL 1004201434 UTC SPACE SHUTTLE LANDING OPERATIONS 25 NM EITHER SIDE OF THE LINE BETWEEN 2447N/12905E 4903N/17017E 4355N/13619W 3523N/11834W 3458N/11745W FROM SURFACE TO UNLIMITED. WIE UNTIL UFN. CREATED: 19 APR 13:56 2010 FDC 0/6181 (A0992/10) - ...SPACE SHUTTLE LANDING OPERATIONS ADVISORY... EFFECTIVE 1004201224 UTC UNTIL 1004201259 UTC SPACE SHUTTLE LANDING OPERATIONS 25 NM EITHER SIDE OF THE LINE BETWEEN 1248N/14217E 4152N/17417E 4807N/13403W 3553N/11806W 3458N/11745W FROM SURFACE TO UNLIMITED. WIE UNTIL UFN. CREATED: 19 APR 13:52 2010


Well on the hunch that 1004201534 UTC is really 2010 04/20 15:34, then that translates to 8:34AM PDT, Thus we have
1004201534 8:34AM PDT
1004201359 6:59AM PDT
1004201224 5:24AM PDT

Well, yet another set of inconsistent times. But these times preceed the announced road closures at Edwards, so maybe they reserve the airspace ahead of time. They fly a weather plane prior to the shuttle landing and probably a CAP.



posted on Apr, 20 2010 @ 02:48 AM
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I missed the ending times in the notam. Thus:
1004201534 UTC UNTIL 1004201609 : 8:34AM until 9:09AM PDT
1004201359 UTC UNTIL 1004201434 : 6:59AM until 7:34AM PDT
1004201224 UTC UNTIL 1004201259 : 5:24AM until 5:59AM PDT

Again the Edwards road closures:
6:11 a.m.
7:46 a.m.
9:21 a.m

Still doesn't make sense.



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